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« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2014, 08:32 »
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'everything in my house is for personal use and I still need to pay for it' #GettyImages #embed

just tweeted that (quoting Paulie)


ShadySue

« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2014, 08:33 »
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I thought the race to the bottom is when we're no longer earning money.

No, the bottom is when we're no longer earning any money but continue to allow agencies, social media sites and end users to use our images to earn money.

Unbelievable, isn't it?  >:(

« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2014, 08:33 »
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all of you talks about that like it isn't possible to deactivate your photos from getty?  :o

I see someone making connections with embedding youtube videos, but owners of youtube videos do earn money from google ads.



« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2014, 08:38 »
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how about journalists? non-commercial as well? I wonder what is commercial then

https://twitter.com/Journalism2ls

stock-will-eat-itself


« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2014, 08:40 »
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Kings of scammers... Soon they will give our ass for free too.

« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2014, 08:45 »
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I thought the race to the bottom is when we're no longer earning money.

No, the bottom is when we're no longer earning any money but continue to allow agencies, social media sites and end users to use our images to earn money.

It could be still worse. The next step would be, you have to pay for your images to be on Getty :D

« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2014, 08:49 »
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I thought the race to the bottom is when we're no longer earning money.

No, the bottom is when we're no longer earning any money but continue to allow agencies, social media sites and end users to use our images to earn money.

It could be still worse. The next step would be, you have to pay for your images to be on Getty :D

Isn't that happening to photographer choice collection? They pay $50 to submit photo and to be given for free to bloggers.

« Reply #133 on: March 06, 2014, 08:50 »
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They're not offering full size, StockPhotosArt, only very low resolution versions.

Someone said Getty is promising to pay commission on advertising revenue. If so one can only wonder how they will track the millions of clicks that will be needed by each individual to get to a payout.

The same way they track clicks on banner adds.

I think you missed the point StockPhotosArt was making. 

« Reply #134 on: March 06, 2014, 08:55 »
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I'm sure we will see sooner then later something like this.
"Getty images embedded free image player makes thousands of websites vulnerable to security breaks due to error in his player code" 

EmberMike

« Reply #135 on: March 06, 2014, 08:58 »
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I'm 100% with Getty on this, finally a bold move to tackle bloggers and spongers.

Let's face it, the actual world wide web is a lawless place where no police is moving a finger to protect OUR rights, anyone can easily steal copyrighted material and get a free lunch and apart rare cases no one is going to knock at their door or sueing their as-s.

No one can argue that copyright infringement isn't a major issue. For sure it is. But don't you think Getty jumped the gun a little here?

Your typical Getty image at a realistic blog size (not the 200px size, who uses 200px images anymore?) is $55-65. That's a pretty steep price for a blog usage. Couldn't they have tested out $10 blog images? $5? Anything more than $0? 

From their perspective, they figure they were offering a blog size (200px wide) for $20 and that was cheap enough. The reality is that is you grab any WordPress blog template today you'll need larger images than 200px, and $55-65 is crazy expensive for a personal blog use image at a reasonable blog size.

« Reply #136 on: March 06, 2014, 09:02 »
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And if we stopped upload files to ALL agencies for a month? It would be a major announcement, what we can do together.

you know that is impossible right?

It is only impossible if you think it is impossible.  There was a time when no one thought unions were possible. 

I would have no problem at all doing this for more than one month.

EmberMike

« Reply #137 on: March 06, 2014, 09:05 »
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Love this quote from Getty:

Quote
What weve seen is a significant amount of infringement online in an area, unfortunately, that we cant control because this is how the Internet has developed, senior vice president Craig Peters tells BJP.

And that loss of control has nothing to do with their exorbitant pricing, does it...

::)

They can't control the market in the way they want to control it. The market has dictated that $55 for a blog image is ridiculous, and Getty being the spoiled little child they are decided that if people won't play by their rules they're going to take their ball and go home.

« Reply #138 on: March 06, 2014, 09:05 »
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And if we stopped upload files to ALL agencies for a month? It would be a major announcement, what we can do together.

you know that is impossible right?

It is only impossible if you think it is impossible.  There was a time when no one thought unions were possible. 

I would have no problem at all doing this for more than one month.

you are a numbers guy and you know it is impossible, lets not dream about it, never was done before, ok there is stocksy with a very strict elite of members and symbio that lately had more fights than ever

unfortunately we cannot stick together, its just too much contributors, opinions, earnings, etc etc

EmberMike

« Reply #139 on: March 06, 2014, 09:06 »
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It is only impossible if you think it is impossible.  There was a time when no one thought unions were possible.

No, it's impossible.

How would you organize something like this? How would you communicate this plan to the majority of contributors, who don't read or post in forums?


ShadySue

« Reply #140 on: March 06, 2014, 09:09 »
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And if we stopped upload files to ALL agencies for a month? It would be a major announcement, what we can do together.

you know that is impossible right?

It is only impossible if you think it is impossible.  There was a time when no one thought unions were possible. 

I would have no problem at all doing this for more than one month.

I uploaded 0 to iS between mid Dec and mid Feb, during which time I was uploading like a mad thing to FAA, not having realised that new work there was going right to the bottom of the default search, which was the main reason I wasn't uploading to iS.  ::)

« Reply #141 on: March 06, 2014, 09:09 »
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The Getty Viewer on your blog is controlling your advertising and income of which you will never see! You can't scale it to fit your blog so people will just rip the image out. You can easily strip the meta data in photoshop and bam put your own adds up. Ohh that is not how you are supposed to use it and Getty dose not want this to happen but you try to police 35million free images and you see you can't.


ShadySue

« Reply #142 on: March 06, 2014, 09:11 »
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The Getty Viewer on your blog is controlling your advertising and income of which you will never see! You can't scale it to fit your blog so people will just rip the image out. You can easily strip the meta data in photoshop and bam put your own adds up. Ohh that is not how you are supposed to use it and Getty dose not want this to happen but you try to police 35million free images and you see you can't.
How would it work if you had a blog with no advertising?
(I shifted my short-lived blog to be hosted on my own webspace to avoid the advertising, but lost my 'audience', so gave up)

Uncle Pete

« Reply #143 on: March 06, 2014, 09:15 »
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They can't track the PP TS and other properly and they are going to track clicks. Yeah Right!  :(

I honestly think the plan is to kill all the little agencies and all the competition that they can. An attempt to neuter Microstock and cage it.

Someone said Getty is promising to pay commission on advertising revenue. If so one can only wonder how they will track the millions of clicks that will be needed by each individual to get to a payout.

« Reply #144 on: March 06, 2014, 09:16 »
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Love this quote from Getty:

Quote
What weve seen is a significant amount of infringement online in an area, unfortunately, that we cant control because this is how the Internet has developed, senior vice president Craig Peters tells BJP.

And that loss of control has nothing to do with their exorbitant pricing, does it...

::)

They can't control the market in the way they want to control it. The market has dictated that $55 for a blog image is ridiculous, and Getty being the spoiled little child they are decided that if people won't play by their rules they're going to take their ball and go home.

Well said - from my vantage point.  One other thing - since they don't like the "rules", they destroy the playing field for others.  Although in some courts that would be considered predatory, they claim its just "market realities".  And remember - they are owned by a group who buys a company, cleans it up and sells it in a year or two.  My guess is this is simply a move to maximize their selling price quickly (they are now an internet "player" like You Tube) and be gone. 

The fact that they killed the value of photos used online forever is irrelevant to the "big picture".  Remember, in the business world you'd always like to kill the competition - their brands and their company.  Some bright soul decided that giving away other people's photos could do this .... and do it legally.

As I've said elsewhere.....this is very clever.

And so very wrong.

« Reply #145 on: March 06, 2014, 09:19 »
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IF Getty put ads. on the viewer then who would make the money the blogger? Getty-yep, The Artist-doubt it OK maybe 2cents. If you just want the image for your blog then it is really easy to rip it out of the viewer. Since you already have advertising and sponsors you just need an image hence why microstock was born.Trust me out of 35 million I will find something that can work so why ever buy an image for my blog again. I have purchased images for my blog before. Now the problem is commercial us as I said before you can easily rip the image out of the viewer and strip the meta data. Now you decided to use it to sell your product will Getty be able to stop that? Now you purchase the image and can freely use it for your commercial needs but when 35 million free images hit the market you lose all control.

« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2014, 09:20 »
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It is only impossible if you think it is impossible.  There was a time when no one thought unions were possible.

No, it's impossible.

How would you organize something like this? How would you communicate this plan to the majority of contributors, who don't read or post in forums?

It will not be difficult to get their attention now and we spread the news the same way Getty is doing it now. That by the way seems to be quite effective, then news is spreading like wildfire.

« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2014, 09:25 »
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The question is what comes next?

« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2014, 09:28 »
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Hmm..

http://m.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-26463886

And quoting from the article:

"Getty will get its pound of flesh one way or another," (sic)

And again:

"My Twitter feed has exploded with very angry photographers going 'I don't want Getty giving away my images for free'," she said. (sic)

"For some of them, it might mean their images are never used commercially and they'll never make a penny. (sic)

Grafix04

« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2014, 09:32 »
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« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 10:04 by Grafix04 »


 

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