Author Topic: Getty Images makes 35 million images free in fight against copyright infringemen (Read 199074 times)

farbled · « **Reply #375 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:31 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 07, 2014, 11:27

Quote from: farbled on March 07, 2014, 11:20
Quote from: KB on March 07, 2014, 11:04
This is what has changed: people who were previously not paying for Getty images, and were never going to ... will continue not paying for Getty images.

I love this quote. The inference is that all the people that will use this service, like bloggers, news orgs, non profits, etc. are all thieves and will steal regardless, so why bother fighting them.

oh please, shall we open SS doors as well?

Huh?

Seriously though, isn't that Getty's public premise behind this? People steal, therefore lets make it free? Ergo, the people using the service are the people that would otherwise steal it anyway.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #376 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:33 »

haven't you just said that bloggers are thieves anyway? so why not opening SS doors as well right?

Rebecca Bean · « **Reply #377 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:36 »

I recently got accepted and had 5 new images in review, at least I was able to delete them. I don't want my pictures given away for free.

jjneff · « **Reply #378 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:36 »

If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

tickstock · « **Reply #379 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:40 »

stockastic · « **Reply #380 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:40 »

I'm not a Getty photographer, so maybe someone can explain this to me. What is the supposed legal basis for this move, that allows them to give away images and collect all the ad revenue without paying royalties? A previous poster said they're calling this "promotion". But how can that hold up, if they're making a profit from this service?

tickstock · « **Reply #381 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:42 »

dingles · « **Reply #382 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:46 »

I'm thinking they need to be more clear with this. Everyone seems to think the images are now free to use, but not many have read the limitations. They are not to host these images...just embed them, but most folks see FREE, I doubt Getty is ready to police this enough to have an effect. I'd be more okay with this if the image url was masked and they had something in the viewer that distorted or removed to image when taking a screen capture...I'm not sure how possible that is, but I have seem something similar with video. In the end there are still going to folks that steal the images...I find it hard to just dismiss them and say they weren't going to buy anyway...doesn't mean they should be allowed to steal freely.

stockastic · « **Reply #383 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:46 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 07, 2014, 11:42

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:32
I'm not a Getty photographer, so maybe someone can explain this to me. What is the supposed legal basis for this move, that allows them to give away images and collect all the ad revenue without paying royalties? A previous poster said they're calling this "promotion". But how can that hold up, if they're making a profit from this service?
Has it been said anywhere that they will collect ad revenues and not pay anything? I assume it would be like the Connect program where it pays very little, but something.

So if they pay you one cent a month they're covered? I'm not sure that would fly either... but who knows.

Pixart · « **Reply #384 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:47 »

Quote from: farbled on March 07, 2014, 11:20

Quote from: KB on March 07, 2014, 11:04
This is what has changed: people who were previously not paying for Getty images, and were never going to ... will continue not paying for Getty images.

I love this quote. The inference is that all the people that will use this service, like bloggers, news orgs, non profits, etc. are all thieves and will steal regardless, so why bother fighting them.

At least when you are a thief you have the underlying fear that you will one day be caught. This deal will be like going to confession for them! What a load off!

stockastic · « **Reply #385 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:49 »

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36

If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

Pixart · « **Reply #386 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:49 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:49

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36
If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

Really? Source please.

dingles · « **Reply #387 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:49 »

The potential is there to mine data, place ads and collect ad revenue. The minute they place ads I feel most folks would stop using it. The data mining is probably the thing and the bad thing for us is they themselves will use our images freely to profit from them. Not ethical in the least, but also not something that is transparent and easy to prove...this is all conjecture, but as I said the potential is there and I am sure Getty has discussed such possibilities internally.

Pixart · « **Reply #388 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:52 »

Quote from: dingles on March 07, 2014, 11:49

The potential is there to mine data, place ads and collect ad revenue....

Of course, with 20 million new signups, presumably freebie hunters who will never convert to a real sale, when Carlyle hangs out the For Sale shingle, the can add to the bottom "over 50 million customers".

dingles · « **Reply #389 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:52 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:49

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36
If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

I don't think anyone assumes that. In fact if this does what it is intended to do, SS and others may have no choice. It's one of many points of contributor backlash.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #390 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:52 »

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36

If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

Killing microstock.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #391 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:53 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:49

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36
If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

why would they? have you seen the latest report? they don't need to try something new like the desperate GI, do you think that SS investors would be happy to know that SS collection was now free for non-commercial purposes? I really don't...

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #392 on:** March 07, 2014, 11:55 »

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:49

Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36
If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

This isn't about SS stop blaming SS for everything and doing your what ifs. This is about Getty right now.

stockastic · « **Reply #393 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:00 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 07, 2014, 11:53

Quote from: stockastic on March 07, 2014, 11:49
Quote from: jjneff on March 07, 2014, 11:36
If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this. But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late. Which I believe they will.

why would they? have you seen the latest report? they don't need to try something new like the desperate GI, do you think that SS investors would be happy to know that SS collection was now free for non-commercial purposes? I really don't...

THis is just my guess, of course. And it wouldn't be every investor. But I've worked in technology companies - and the day a big competitor announces something new, the execs' phones start ringing. Some investors - often the biggest, most agressive ones - will demand to know why this enormous untapped revenue stream has been left to a competitor. In other words, some investors will drink the Kool-Aid and the result is conflict within management. As Getty manages to create positive buzz around the new "product", the pressure will become harder to resist.

jjneff · « **Reply #394 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:00 »

I am not saying SS I am saying all the collections on Getty! Seems they still want to sell some images. I think this is aimed at trying to destroy SS.

Ron · « **Reply #395 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:01 »

Jon will tell the shareholder to stop smoking whatever he is on, because when they give images away for free, there is no dividend to pay the man, and his 100$ shares could be used as toilet paper.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #396 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:02 »

Quote from: Goofy on March 07, 2014, 09:57

this is on the front page of CNN right now-

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/06/tech/social-media/getty-free-pictures/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

If CNN is using those images for free, then it is violating the terms of the agreement because the Getty logo and links have been hidden.

stockastic · « **Reply #397 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:07 »

Well I guess I've accumulated enough minuses for one day. :-)

SS is obviously in a strong position right now and management can resist a lot of craziness. But IMHO it's naive to think of SS as the good guys and Getty as the bad guys. In publicaly held companies there are no white hats or black hats. If this deal brings in money, it will attract competition.

ShadySue · « **Reply #398 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:10 »

Quote from: farbled on March 07, 2014, 11:20

Quote from: KB on March 07, 2014, 11:04
This is what has changed: people who were previously not paying for Getty images, and were never going to ... will continue not paying for Getty images.

I love this quote. The inference is that all the people that will use this service, like bloggers, news orgs, non profits, etc. are all thieves and will steal regardless, so why bother fighting them.

That may be what you infer; it's not what I take out of it.
What I take out of it is "people who don't currently purchase Getty images (nothing at all about thieves) will not be enticed to buy them now, and indeed they have free access to the entire library".

tickstock · « **Reply #399 on:** March 07, 2014, 12:13 »

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