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« Reply #400 on: March 07, 2014, 12:14 »
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I asked Getty public relations a couple questions. They supplied me with the following answer that can be attributed to Getty Images.

1 Are customers able to embed images that are on iStock and Thinkstock?

Right now the embed feature is only for images on gettyimages.com. It is not on the companys master delegate sites. It is not on iStock or Thinkstock. Getty Images will see how it resonates and then make decisions about iStock and Thinkstock.

Of course the iStock images that are on gettyimages.com are available for embedding including Yuris image

2 I asked, if a contributors image is downloaded using the embed tool will the contributor be informed of the image number that was downloaded and hopefully of the site where the image will be found (Getty will capture that information).

 At launch, we will not be sharing information of this manner with contributors, but we will explore data sharing options in the future. If and when we earn revenue associated with an embedded image (e.g., ads placed in the embedded viewer), we will report that revenue to contributors through existing royalty reports.

Last August Getty partnered with Stipple.com. Stipple embeds ads and other kinds of information in images. You can learn more about it by going to www.Stipple.com.



marthamarks

« Reply #401 on: March 07, 2014, 12:15 »
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If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this.  But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late.  Which I believe they will.

why would they? have you seen the latest report? they don't need to try something new like the desperate GI, do you think that SS investors would be happy to know that SS collection was now free for non-commercial purposes? I really don't...

THis is just my guess, of course.

Now you tell us!

How 'bout getting your fact straight before you make flat-out statements like "right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors..."

If you don't know something is true, don't state it as if you know it's true.

« Reply #402 on: March 07, 2014, 12:16 »
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But IMHO it's naive to think of SS as the good guys and Getty as the bad guys.  In publicaly held companies there are no white hats or black hats.  If this deal brings in money, it will attract competition.

which agency have been screwing things one after another? it that SS? they aren't paying you 70% royalties that is right but other are? they are in fact paying you almost the double comparing to iStock

how do you dare saying something like that? at this moment SS is light years from GI/iStock or any other, like it or not you need to get down on earth and see what agency is indeed paying you off and making it worthwhile, its about money on your pocket and giving your pictures for free won't make you collect much...
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« Reply #404 on: March 07, 2014, 12:22 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:27 by tickstock »

« Reply #405 on: March 07, 2014, 12:23 »
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But IMHO it's naive to think of SS as the good guys and Getty as the bad guys.  In publicaly held companies there are no white hats or black hats.  If this deal brings in money, it will attract competition.

which agency have been screwing things one after another? it that SS? they aren't paying you 70% royalties that is right but other are? they are in fact paying you almost the double comparing to iStock

how do you dare saying something like that? at this moment SS is light years from GI/iStock or any other, like it or not you need to get down on earth and see what agency is indeed paying you off and making it worthwhile, its about money on your pocket and giving your pictures for free won't make you collect much...

I imagine a few years ago, people were saying all sorts of great stuff about IS - how they're taking on the big boys, they're all for the contributors, they'll never sell us out.   Things change.

I don't hate SS .  They're just a corporation like any other.  In the end, they'll do what makes money.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2014, 12:25 by stockastic »

« Reply #406 on: March 07, 2014, 12:23 »
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« Reply #407 on: March 07, 2014, 12:27 »
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If this is such a swell idea then lets open ALL the collections on Getty! This is a PR stunt aimed at killing ShutterStock.

People seem to be assuming that SS would never do anything like this.  But right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors, asking "why aren't we in this market?" and demanding that SS announce something similar before it's too late.  Which I believe they will.

why would they? have you seen the latest report? they don't need to try something new like the desperate GI, do you think that SS investors would be happy to know that SS collection was now free for non-commercial purposes? I really don't...

THis is just my guess, of course.

Now you tell us!

How 'bout getting your fact straight before you make flat-out statements like "right now, SS management is getting calls from angry investors..."

If you don't know something is true, don't state it as if you know it's true.

I think it should have been obvious that I wasn't claiming to have hacked Jon Oringer's phone.  But in the future I'll be sure to include "IMHO" in any speculations.

« Reply #408 on: March 07, 2014, 12:28 »
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/03/07/free-getty-images-no-threat-to-photo-market-says-shutterstock-ceo/
Love it. Great response.

Seems we've all been overreacting, it's no big deal and shouldn't affect the industry at all.


guess we will need to wait a see, 35 Million free files is indeed a lot, saying that only 0.1% are non-commercial buyers seems quite low as well, he wouldn't say that this is a major concern too

Ron

« Reply #409 on: March 07, 2014, 12:29 »
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/03/07/free-getty-images-no-threat-to-photo-market-says-shutterstock-ceo/
Love it. Great response.

Seems we've all been overreacting, it's no big deal and shouldn't affect the industry at all.


guess we will need to wait a see, 35 Million free files is indeed a lot, saying that only 0.1% are non-commercial buyers seems quite low as well, he wouldn't say that this is a major concern too
True, if Jon said this would kill Shutterstock, he could start using his shares as toilet paper as well  ;)

« Reply #410 on: March 07, 2014, 12:36 »
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/03/07/free-getty-images-no-threat-to-photo-market-says-shutterstock-ceo/
Love it. Great response.

Seems we've all been overreacting, it's no big deal and shouldn't affect the industry at all.


guess we will need to wait a see, 35 Million free files is indeed a lot, saying that only 0.1% are non-commercial buyers seems quite low as well, he wouldn't say that this is a major concern too
True, if Jon said this would kill Shutterstock, he could start using his shares as toilet paper as well  ;)


Right.  I'm pretty sure he sees Getty's plan as junk, but he's nevertheless forced to respond to it - and he'll have to answer the same questions at the next shareholders' meeting.

In the long run, the money Getty makes (or doesn't) from this may not matter.  What matters is the huge perceived devaluation of stock imagery, and IMHO that's a disaster which is not recoverable.

« Reply #411 on: March 07, 2014, 12:38 »
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I asked Getty public relations a couple questions. They supplied me with the following answer that can be attributed to Getty Images.

1 Are customers able to embed images that are on iStock and Thinkstock?

Right now the embed feature is only for images on gettyimages.com. It is not on the companys master delegate sites. It is not on iStock or Thinkstock. Getty Images will see how it resonates and then make decisions about iStock and Thinkstock.

Of course the iStock images that are on gettyimages.com are available for embedding including Yuris image


The moment they allow embedding on my non-exclusive iStock portfolio (over 9000 images) I'll be gone from there. I will not be giving away for free images that I sell on other sites, this would be complete insanity. Whoever is in charge of decisions like that please take note.

Ron

« Reply #412 on: March 07, 2014, 12:41 »
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/03/07/free-getty-images-no-threat-to-photo-market-says-shutterstock-ceo/
Love it. Great response.

Seems we've all been overreacting, it's no big deal and shouldn't affect the industry at all.


guess we will need to wait a see, 35 Million free files is indeed a lot, saying that only 0.1% are non-commercial buyers seems quite low as well, he wouldn't say that this is a major concern too
True, if Jon said this would kill Shutterstock, he could start using his shares as toilet paper as well  ;)


Right.  I'm pretty sure he sees Getty's plan as junk, but he's nevertheless forced to respond to it - and he'll have to answer the same questions at the next shareholders' meeting.

In the long run, the money Getty makes (or doesn't) from this may not matter.  What matters is the huge perceived devaluation of stock imagery, and IMHO that's a disaster which is not recoverable.
I agree with that

« Reply #413 on: March 07, 2014, 12:46 »
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Shelma1

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« Reply #415 on: March 07, 2014, 13:13 »
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Shelma1

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« Reply #416 on: March 07, 2014, 13:28 »
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I see a Vetta illustration embedded under point #4 in the article.

This one: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/illustration/social-media-gathering-royalty-free-illustration/467771121?suri=1


« Reply #417 on: March 07, 2014, 13:30 »
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Shelma1

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« Reply #418 on: March 07, 2014, 13:32 »
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I'm simply making the point that photographers' images are not the only ones being given away...illustrators' are, too.

« Reply #419 on: March 07, 2014, 13:34 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:27 by tickstock »

« Reply #420 on: March 07, 2014, 13:34 »
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I see a Vetta illustration embedded under point #4 in the article.

This one: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/illustration/social-media-gathering-royalty-free-illustration/467771121?suri=1

The vector isn't available though, it's an image of a vector. 


It's pretty big though and wouldn't be that hard to autotrace. If I were motivated I could reproduce that image about 10 minutes. Kind of negates the whole need for the vector file at all. And on top of it people think it is OK because the image is free.

ETA: I was speaking of the thief in the car illustration. The detailed one would obviously be more difficult to recreate.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2014, 13:39 by chromaco »

Uncle Pete

« Reply #421 on: March 07, 2014, 13:35 »
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Please let me explain and summarize:



Thank You!

« Reply #422 on: March 07, 2014, 13:36 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:26 by tickstock »

« Reply #423 on: March 07, 2014, 13:37 »
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The moment they allow embedding on my non-exclusive iStock portfolio (over 9000 images) I'll be gone from there. I will not be giving away for free images that I sell on other sites, this would be complete insanity. Whoever is in charge of decisions like that please take note.

Then let's hope that free embedding remains an exclusive "privilege"

Shelma1

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« Reply #424 on: March 07, 2014, 13:38 »
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I'm simply making the point that photographers' images are not the only ones being given away...illustrators' are, too.
Ok but those are different things.  A vector being given away implies that the entire full sized image is being given away with layers etc..  That's not what this is.

I sell jpgs of my vectors on Shutterstock. I'd be awfully POed to see them being given away by Getty.


 

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