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Chichikov

« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2017, 01:12 »
+2
Not surprised... really. I wonder if all the Exclusive even have a tiny clue what kinda company they are supporting. Almost the same as if you would support slavery and been proud of it.
Please stop the slavery analogies bad as Getty might be its offensive to compare it with slavery in my opinion.

slavery
ˈsleɪv(ə)ri/

noun
noun: slavery

the state of being a slave.
"thousands had been sold into slavery"
synonyms:   bondage, enslavement, servitude, subjugation, thraldom, thrall, serfdom, vassalage, enthralment, yoke; More
antonyms:   freedom, liberty, emancipation

the practice or system of owning slaves.
"he was resolved to impose a number of reforms, including the abolition of slavery"
synonyms:   bondage, enslavement, servitude, subjugation, thraldom, thrall, serfdom, vassalage, enthralment, yoke; More
antonyms:   freedom, liberty, emancipation

a condition of having to work very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation.
"female domestic slavery"
synonyms:   drudgery, toil, (hard) slog, hard labour, grind, sweated labour; More
antonyms:   sinecure, soft option, money for old rope


excessive dependence on or devotion to something.
"slavery to tradition"
« Last Edit: March 15, 2017, 01:18 by Chichikov »


« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2017, 01:31 »
+2
I never said slave of anything! No it is not even close I have great respect for those to fought and died for freedom of all men. I may live in the south but
could not be happier the North won the battle and I will never fly the Dixie flag as to others it offends. I can leave Getty anytime and I am not alone in being
treated like this. I just want to give others a heads up in case they also run into the same issue. They have not responded to my latest e-mail for more documentation and my history of refunds!
To be clear no way was I referring to your post. I was commenting on other posts where  comparison is made Mstock practice with slavery in this and other posts. Sorry to drag the thread OT.

« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2017, 05:28 »
+1
I am non-exclusive now for about a year! I had enough abuse as an exclusive!

« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2017, 06:31 »
+6
In another year I hope to pull my entire port from them!


I sympathize with you but for years contributors have been complaining about them on this forum. I am really not surprised they are ripping you off...seems to be the trend nowadays, not just with microstock but with a lot of companies.


If you continue to leave your images there, arent you basically just saying you are ok with whatever they do?


I know you didnt make the slavery analogy, my previous comment was directed towards those who keep using that. Slaves never had free will...everyone here does.


I hope you get this straightened out and I hope you get your money...and then run as fast and as far away from them as you can! Good luck.

« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2017, 08:52 »
+2
Yes the returns are more then earnings nowadays! Crazy!

Happened to me too. A new way of screwing contributors. I won't upload there again.

« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2017, 09:14 »
+6
The more abuse like this that contributors tolerate from those bass turds, the more they will be emboldened to dish it out.  So glad I fired them months ago.

« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2017, 13:14 »
+7
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2017, 13:16 by r2d2 »

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2017, 15:01 »
+8
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2017, 16:20 »
0
I would leave and give them the headache of trying to get the money back.  If they request payment, ask for details of why a positive balance turned in to a negative one and see if they come up with anything.  I doubt they can force people to pay and not show them how their money vanished.  Is there an arbitration service in the US?  I think an independent 3rd party needs to look in to this.

« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2017, 16:30 »
+2
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.

« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2017, 22:02 »
+1
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2017, 01:10 »
+3
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2017, 01:15 »
+2
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.
Wouldn't they still have to show up to make the case that the clause was in the contract? Terms aren't always enforceable anyway.

« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2017, 01:50 »
+1
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.
Wouldn't they still have to show up to make the case that the clause was in the contract? Terms aren't always enforceable anyway.
To do it you would probably have to leave them and if you did whatever is in the contract they are not above the law

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2017, 04:28 »
0
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.
Wouldn't they still have to show up to make the case that the clause was in the contract? Terms aren't always enforceable anyway.
To do it you would probably have to leave them and if you did whatever is in the contract they are not above the law
It's also in the ASA that you can request an audit - *at your own expense*.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2017, 15:42 by ShadySue »

« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2017, 15:23 »
+4
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Never is a big word for someone who has been at this for just about 3 years.  I'm guessing you weren't here for istock D day (deactivation day).  It was a big deal.  All your suggestions were tried at once by a large organized group of contributors.   Many thousands of images were deactivated and a lot of people closed their accounts altogether.   Buyers were contacted, tweets went out, bloggers wrote articles about Getty mistreatment of contributors,  the works. 

Yet here we are a few years later  Things are way worse on istock than ever.  The only good to come from it is that the people who closed their accounts  are free of the abuse.

You're welcome for the history lesson.  ;)
« Last Edit: March 16, 2017, 15:54 by PixelBytes »

« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2017, 16:20 »
+3
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Never is a big word for someone who has been at this for just about 3 years.  I'm guessing you weren't here for istock D day (deactivation day).  It was a big deal.  All your suggestions were tried at once by a large organized group of contributors.   Many thousands of images were deactivated and a lot of people closed their accounts altogether.   Buyers were contacted, tweets went out, bloggers wrote articles about Getty mistreatment of contributors,  the works. 

Yet here we are a few years later  Things are way worse on istock than ever.  The only good to come from it is that the people who closed their accounts  are free of the abuse.

You're welcome for the history lesson.  ;)
I do think istock has lost a lot of buyers because they were competitive with SS in the earnings poll here for non-exclusives at one time.  Would be good if they lost more and I think if that will happen over time.


« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2017, 16:31 »
+3
Why not sue in small claims? Seriously. Force them to either show up for court in your town or hand over the documentation. There are no attorneys in small claims, AFAIK.

The Getty contract has (or used to have) an arbitration clause. I think that precludes going to any court for any claim relating to money owed.
Wouldn't they still have to show up to make the case that the clause was in the contract? Terms aren't always enforceable anyway.
To do it you would probably have to leave them and if you did whatever is in the contract they are not above the law
It's also in the ASA that you can request an audit - *at your own expense*.

What if we pooled some money and requested a full audit? I bet they would cra...p their drawers.

« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2017, 16:31 »
0
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Never is a big word for someone who has been at this for just about 3 years.  I'm guessing you weren't here for istock D day (deactivation day).  It was a big deal.  All your suggestions were tried at once by a large organized group of contributors.   Many thousands of images were deactivated and a lot of people closed their accounts altogether.   Buyers were contacted, tweets went out, bloggers wrote articles about Getty mistreatment of contributors,  the works. 

Yet here we are a few years later  Things are way worse on istock than ever.  The only good to come from it is that the people who closed their accounts  are free of the abuse.

You're welcome for the history lesson.  ;)

Wow! Really d-day?
crazy.....;D Tell me somthing new.

I dont talk about a d-day or deleting accounts.

And now?
Crying about the good (or bad) old times?

But yout right iam generation next.
Fighting with subcriptions from the beginning and still survive.
I dont need lessons from disillusioned SOD-veterans.
This is my future that luckily not depend on your history. ;)






dpimborough

« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2017, 16:51 »
+6
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Never is a big word for someone who has been at this for just about 3 years.  I'm guessing you weren't here for istock D day (deactivation day).  It was a big deal.  All your suggestions were tried at once by a large organized group of contributors.   Many thousands of images were deactivated and a lot of people closed their accounts altogether.   Buyers were contacted, tweets went out, bloggers wrote articles about Getty mistreatment of contributors,  the works. 

Yet here we are a few years later  Things are way worse on istock than ever.  The only good to come from it is that the people who closed their accounts  are free of the abuse.

You're welcome for the history lesson.  ;)

Wow! Really d-day?
crazy.....;D Tell me somthing new.

I dont talk about a d-day or deleting accounts.

And now?
Crying about the good (or bad) old times?

But yout right iam generation next.
Fighting with subcriptions from the beginning and still survive.
I dont need lessons from disillusioned SOD-veterans.
This is my future that luckily not depend on your history. ;)

Give it a rest you sound like a petulant child

« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2017, 17:38 »
+1
So lets take action:
Inform there buyers.
Click Gettys Adsense advertisment away.
Start a social media shitstorm.
Flood there support with emails.

We are so many lets give them a 24/7 contributor support worldwide.

What great ideas.  Too bad nobody tried them all before, many times.  ::)

there was never a swarm that tried that. Only a few do that.
The contributor scene has no power that is the problem.
Remember the Fotolia/Dollarphotoclub action. It is possible to punish greedy Agencies.
But if you only post, crying and unmotivated you will change nothing.

Sometimes i think the contributors have lost all her creativity by producing new images.

Never is a big word for someone who has been at this for just about 3 years.  I'm guessing you weren't here for istock D day (deactivation day).  It was a big deal.  All your suggestions were tried at once by a large organized group of contributors.   Many thousands of images were deactivated and a lot of people closed their accounts altogether.   Buyers were contacted, tweets went out, bloggers wrote articles about Getty mistreatment of contributors,  the works. 

Yet here we are a few years later  Things are way worse on istock than ever.  The only good to come from it is that the people who closed their accounts  are free of the abuse.

You're welcome for the history lesson.  ;)

Wow! Really d-day?
crazy.....;D Tell me somthing new.

I dont talk about a d-day or deleting accounts.

And now?
Crying about the good (or bad) old times?

But yout right iam generation next.
Fighting with subcriptions from the beginning and still survive.
I dont need lessons from disillusioned SOD-veterans.
This is my future that luckily not depend on your history. ;)

History repeats itself... there is no escape. 

« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2017, 19:26 »
+6
...I dont need lessons from disillusioned SOD-veterans.
This is my future that luckily not depend on your history. ;)

So you're making calls for action but are disinterested in finding out anything about what has been going on the last decade or so? You know what's said about people who are ignorant of history...

« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2017, 20:14 »
+1
What if we pooled some money and requested a full audit? I bet they would cra...p their drawers.

Sign me up. This is better than petitions, unions and all the other waste of time ideas. Demand a full audit for refunds, for all, class action suit. I won't get 28 cents but I'd like to see Getty stuck for their arrogant attitude and mysterious undocumented refunds.

Fund Me

« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2017, 22:31 »
+2
jjnef,

This still works for me.  Here are two links that were posted in the main ESP thread: http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType and www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?id=000000&Offset=-1&DownloadsGraphFileType.

Both links work for me.  They both take me to my "Daily Statistics" page on the original iStock site.  I can then click back to previous months in 2016, although I don't know how far it'll allow you to go back.  Click back to the month in question (November, if I'm remembering correctly).  Once on that page, click on the little square box right next to the "Daily statistics" graphic.  This will allow you to download a CSV file with all the sales data for that month intact; it's all still there.  I just tested it to make sure, and the CSV file had all my November sales including Partner Program and Subs.

Hope this helps; don't know if it'll show your premium access sales.


 

« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2017, 23:20 »
0
What if we pooled some money and requested a full audit? I bet they would cra...p their drawers.

Sign me up. This is better than petitions, unions and all the other waste of time ideas. Demand a full audit for refunds, for all, class action suit. I won't get 28 cents but I'd like to see Getty stuck for their arrogant attitude and mysterious undocumented refunds.

Fund Me


Yeah.  Me too.  Would be worth the money just to see WtheF they've been up to.  I get the idea their bookkeeping is so bad an audit might wind up putting them out of business.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2017, 23:30 by PixelBytes »


 

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