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« on: October 21, 2018, 09:16 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?


derek

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 12:18 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 15:15 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

nobody

« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 16:51 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

I see it quite simple-- tell others the Micro is crap and than they will not join or quit. Thus you keep your share of the pie or even get more  8)

« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 21:30 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

Its called malignant narcism

derek

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 01:57 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.
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Listen twatt!!  there are people spending six-figure amounts for full frame video recorders, hundreds of thousands on further eqipment etc, etc. Now if you think my poor stuff is " how good you are",  well then be my guest, hahaha!...gotta be kidding aint you! ::) ::) and if you think micro is good for video???  well you earn more flipping burgers at Macs!
« Last Edit: October 22, 2018, 02:05 by derek »

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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2018, 01:59 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

Its called malignant narcism

No its actually benign! but thats another story!

« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 09:34 »
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You need help.

« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 10:54 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

Its called malignant narcism

compensating for tiny huevos and low self esteem.

derek

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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 11:19 »
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I have all in all spent over 35 grand on all kinds of video equipment and thats apart from the Black-Magic recorder itself, the only one thing that pay are production companies NOT any Micro and NOT Getty or any other stock-agency!...the all get peanuts and cents!....now if you can work your way into various large Prod-companies then its worth it but for stock-agencies, forget it!!

although a Gimble is of course worth it for yourself so buy it! it does help a lot!

Sorry for being a bit negative but thats the way it is!

Why do you come to a micro site to tell us how good you are other places, and how terrible micro is. Then complain about caps and searches on micro, how terrible your earnings are. Don't you have your secret forum to make fun of us. Doesn't make sense.

Its called malignant narcism

compensating for tiny huevos and low self esteem.


Pathological alturism! ::) ::) 

« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 11:32 »
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So key take aways from this
1. Get a gimbal for personal development and not for microstock
2. Leave microstock and flip burgers to make more money


So back to buying a gimbal, does it make sense

derek

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 11:49 »
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So key take aways from this
1. Get a gimbal for personal development and not for microstock
2. Leave microstock and flip burgers to make more money


So back to buying a gimbal, does it make sense

Exactly! I gave you a like for that!!  good boy!

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2018, 13:19 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?

A real general answer, only you can decide.

As an investment, can you recover the expense of the better one, in a month or two and make more money after that? Or will the gimbal be something that you want, but will take a long time to make a return on your investment and not significantly change your long term earnings for video?


« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2018, 13:23 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?

If you want stable shots, get a motorized gimbal. Don't get caught up in the "is it worth it for microstock" nonsense way of thinking.

Also, if you get a roxant type stabilizer, you will use it for about 10 minutes, and then go straight to your computer to buy a real gimbal anyway. It's a waste of time and money if you're looking for professional looking shots.  ;)

derek

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2018, 13:58 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?

If you want stable shots, get a motorized gimbal. Don't get caught up in the "is it worth it for microstock" nonsense way of thinking.

Also, if you get a roxant type stabilizer, you will use it for about 10 minutes, and then go straight to your computer to buy a real gimbal anyway. It's a waste of time and money if you're looking for professional looking shots.  ;)

Thats a good reply!!....best to you! :)

« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2018, 22:15 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?

A real general answer, only you can decide.

As an investment, can you recover the expense of the better one, in a month or two and make more money after that? Or will the gimbal be something that you want, but will take a long time to make a return on your investment and not significantly change your long term earnings for video?
I think i should be able to make the money back in a couple of months, but I've never shot moving shots so it'll be an experiment for me in terms of how well they sell


« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2018, 22:16 »
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Hi, have just started attempting stock video with some files getting sold. I've currently been a heavy user of warp stabilizer and am planning to get something to help me get more stable shots of walking etc. The contenders are

1. Gimbal like the crane plus ($500), expensive but one of the best in getting smooth shots from my mobile and sony NEX6

2. A small roxant type stabilizer ($30), marginally better than handheld. Need a lot more time to stabilize and can get only level horizon shots. This is mainly to bide time if at all.

What would you all advise? Is the $500 investment worth it?

If you want stable shots, get a motorized gimbal. Don't get caught up in the "is it worth it for microstock" nonsense way of thinking.

Also, if you get a roxant type stabilizer, you will use it for about 10 minutes, and then go straight to your computer to buy a real gimbal anyway. It's a waste of time and money if you're looking for professional looking shots.  ;)
Thats what I've heard people tell me, the tedious balancing process and the limited horizon shots make this a one trick pony.


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2018, 11:57 »
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If you want stable shots, get a motorized gimbal. Don't get caught up in the "is it worth it for microstock" nonsense way of thinking.

Also, if you get a roxant type stabilizer, you will use it for about 10 minutes, and then go straight to your computer to buy a real gimbal anyway. It's a waste of time and money if you're looking for professional looking shots.  ;)

Very true if you are just talking about video and how things work, this is the best answer. I was only addressing the money part. I should have said, if he's buying a gimbal, get a good real one, or don't waste the money on a toy that won't do the job.  :)

You're right.

« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2018, 16:26 »
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A gimbal is very useful for specific types of shots. It will not replace concept, light, talent, and all the other elements that make good video. I would look at your current kit and evaluate how well you are covered in fundamentals (camera, glass, lighting, etc.) and if you are solid, a gimbal would be a good next step *for solo shooter*.

If you are working with others, let them pay for that expense and training and you pay them for what you need.

derek

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2018, 02:24 »
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If you want stable shots, get a motorized gimbal. Don't get caught up in the "is it worth it for microstock" nonsense way of thinking.

Also, if you get a roxant type stabilizer, you will use it for about 10 minutes, and then go straight to your computer to buy a real gimbal anyway. It's a waste of time and money if you're looking for professional looking shots.  ;)

Very true if you are just talking about video and how things work, this is the best answer. I was only addressing the money part. I should have said, if he's buying a gimbal, get a good real one, or don't waste the money on a toy that won't do the job.  :)

You're right.

Thats right! and for 500 you wont get much of a gimble, unfortunately!..I tried this one, DJI Ronin-MX 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer!!..bloody expensive and still I had problems, not at all as fluent and stable as I anticipated, I never bought it just tested it!....check out that site they have some interesting stuff!

« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2018, 12:02 »
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500 bucks is already breaking the bank, I'm sure I'm not going beyond the crane plus

Tyson Anderson

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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2018, 18:28 »
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Glidecam is another option.  You can get smooth shots without having to charge more batteries and depend on motors working.

« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2018, 22:58 »
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Glidecam is another option.  You can get smooth shots without having to charge more batteries and depend on motors working.
This is what i started with, i was trying to find a more compact glidecam and thats how i got to the roxant type stabilizers.

The issues remain the same though, takes time to balance, mostly horizontal shots, takes some getting used to for the knack of the two hand operation.

Tyson Anderson

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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2018, 23:05 »
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Glidecam is another option.  You can get smooth shots without having to charge more batteries and depend on motors working.
This is what i started with, i was trying to find a more compact glidecam and thats how i got to the roxant type stabilizers.

The issues remain the same though, takes time to balance, mostly horizontal shots, takes some getting used to for the knack of the two hand operation.
I hear ya.  I get smooth shots out of the glidecam but sometimes I screw it up.  It's not easy.  I also have 2 motorized gimbal and both have presented issues.  I usually know what went wrong with the glidecam.  The motorized gimbals seem to have weird glitches at the wrong time.  I just don't fully trust em.

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derek

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2018, 09:39 »
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Glidecam is another option.  You can get smooth shots without having to charge more batteries and depend on motors working.
This is what i started with, i was trying to find a more compact glidecam and thats how i got to the roxant type stabilizers.

The issues remain the same though, takes time to balance, mostly horizontal shots, takes some getting used to for the knack of the two hand operation.
I hear ya.  I get smooth shots out of the glidecam but sometimes I screw it up.  It's not easy.  I also have 2 motorized gimbal and both have presented issues.  I usually know what went wrong with the glidecam.  The motorized gimbals seem to have weird glitches at the wrong time.  I just don't fully trust em.

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Too true!!  you cant trust them not even the expensive ones, all having weird issues!...was shooting aircrafts on a commission last year and using an almost top of the line gimal and started to play up exactly at the critical time!...not happy!...fortunately I only rented it for three days!..still!..I really dont know what to make of all these gadgets?


 

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