I made my 20 files submission at 2 days. I don�t know anything yet. For a site so small is difficult understand why this delay but ok, i don�t hope big results. Why?

- I spend a little time reading the terms and seller rules, so:

- They don�t accept editorial; Ok for me, i submit my editorial work in others places like Alamy that are more specific for that .
- Now, they don�t accept people images? On the seller terms i read that people faces collection is for invitation only.....ok, probably i�m out...
-They don�t accept images without intact exif.....30% of my port is out....i have a small port,
- So , they could be a very good and peaceful place to be, but is not for everyone!

-there are another restrictions ?

I understand that each agency have their niche, their standarts , their host limitations, legal standarts and limitations, and all of this things, but this one have lots of limitations . Maybe they have change their terms and i have read the old terms or i not understand right, but i know one thing, is the contributor who choose the agencies and because of that i upload only in 4 (SS, IS, DT, Alamy) If IS don�t change the 18 images limit and get another version of Deep Meta (OR Deep Hole for me) maybe i upload to 3 agencies only in future.

Contributor blame the agencies for bad politics and low sales but the power is ours . In this case i will see how my files perform but after read the limitations terms i think they fall for 100% , i�m not invite to submit people, so....

PS: Exif is only necessary for editorial licenses , whats the problem with standarts ?

I know and agree 100% that contributors most allow little agencies to grow ... BUT... if this limitations are true is this agency that don�t want to grow...

- Now, they don�t accept people images? On the seller terms i read that people faces collection is for invitation only.....ok, probably i�m out...

they are accepting people pictures, send them an email telling you want to upload, believe you have an entry test (http://graphicleftovers.com/contact-us)

-They don�t accept images without intact exif.....30% of my port is out....i have a small port,

this isn't correct, at least I haven't experienced it (ever in any agency I have joined, over 40)

IMO GL is the simplest agency ever, you just upload and done, not a single click, weird you are contributing in Alamy and saying GL is harder....

Good luck with this. I've been down this road before, trying to lobby for a contributor-supported push to help build a good up-and-comer into top tier status. It doesn't work because no one agrees on what the right site should be...

I should add to this...

John, I didn't mean to shoot down your idea. I'm all for supporting good companies that treat contributors fairly, and GL is high on the list of companies that do that. And I fully support them and upload all of my work there.

I think it's impossible to get a consensus here on a single site that everyone should fully support and upload everything to. But that doesn't mean GL or any other site is off-limits. If you're doing a push at GL, good for you and just know that while my preferred up-and-comer may not be GL, I'm still sending all of my stuff to GL as well.

Maybe rather than trying to pinpoint a single site we should all get behind, we need a short list of maybe the top 3 most contributor-friendly, fair trade, all-around good up-and-coming companies to show support for.

GL is by far the easiest place to upload to for model released images.  No attatching model releases, no catagories.  If the Iptc data is all there then you don't have to do anything at all after ftping them unless you want to change the prices.

GL Stock Images DOES NOT ACCEPT the following images:

Editorial images. We do not offer this license.
Images that contain copyrighted or trademarked content.
Images that require a property release.



Restricted Content (Do Not Submit)

Model released images (GL Personalities is a invitation only collection)

I only photograph people, so it looks like I can't even complete the application as it would be impossible for me to find 20 images for application that represent my body of work. I am surprised that an agency would have such a limiting constraint.

I believe it's because the system can't accept releases until you are approved, and those images go live into the collection once that happens.

Kelly can elaborate.

I only photograph people, so it looks like I can't even complete the application as it would be impossible for me to find 20 images for application that represent my body of work. I am surprised that an agency would have such a limiting constraint.

I turned on the No People filter on your iStock port and it showed me 844 images. I think there's at least 20 keepers in that lot

Quote from: jbryson on January 18, 2013, 14:32

I only photograph people, so it looks like I can't even complete the application as it would be impossible for me to find 20 images for application that represent my body of work. I am surprised that an agency would have such a limiting constraint.

I turned on the No People filter on your iStock port and it showed me 844 images. I think there's at least 20 keepers in that lot

Haha. I just did that too, and it hurts like hell to look at them. But, I'll probably give it a go here sometime soon.

I only photograph people, so it looks like I can't even complete the application as it would be impossible for me to find 20 images for application that represent my body of work. I am surprised that an agency would have such a limiting constraint.

Hi, if you only shoot people, please upload them as your 20 images. The reason we ask for a variety of non-people images for your initial application is so that we can get an idea of what types of subjects you shoot. We do accept MR images, and as Sean stated, new submitters cannot add releases until after they are accepted. Thanks

Quote from: fotografer on January 18, 2013, 05:11

GL is by far the easiest place to upload to for model released images.  No attatching model releases, no catagories.  If the Iptc data is all there then you don't have to do anything at all after ftping them unless you want to change the prices.

How do they know which model release applies to each image? Does it need to be referenced in the IPTC data?

They don't, it's all down to trust.  Let's face how do any agency know if a release is forged or not.

Why are you considering "A" place to move?  The logical action would be to move your port to multiple sites, such as GL, SS, DT and so forth.  Each site has it's own strengths and weaknesses.  They have their own acceptance criteria and, while not specializing in specific image types, they do seem to attract buyers that are looking for certain types of images.  For example, it's difficult to classify SS as a low earner agency.  While you are correct that starting subscriptions are at $0.25 each, on the assumption your images are good, this payout should quickly rise.  Also, their ODD, SOD and EL sales are usually quite good throughout the month.  Total RPD can be much higher than this base figure ... above $1.00.  And while that figure isn't particularly high, compared to some other sites, when combined with the volume they seem to be able to produce the total monthly payouts can be considerable.  And that's really the bottom line ... how much money can I bank at the end of each month.  Add to this payouts at all the other sites and your monthly income should be a reasonable figure.  Of course all this depends on the quality and quantity of your portfolio.  As with any other site (except IS these days), the ball's in your court.

Quote from: fotografer on January 18, 2013, 05:11

GL is by far the easiest place to upload to for model released images.  No attatching model releases, no catagories.  If the Iptc data is all there then you don't have to do anything at all after ftping them unless you want to change the prices.

How do they know which model release applies to each image? Does it need to be referenced in the IPTC data?

All my MR have 3x4cm pictures to identify the model.

It's not going to be any good swamping GL with new images unless they get lots more buyers.  I'd love to see that happen but the usual way it happens is that we all see less downloads after a site gets a big influx of images.  So I think former exclusives will soon be looking at adding more sites.  Hopefully they will avoid the ones that are almost as bad as istock.  Here's the ones I would use if I was starting from scratch and had a big portfolio.

Shutterstock and they should link it to Bigstockphoto
alamy
Dreamstime
Canstockphoto
Pond5
Veer
GLStockImages
YayMicro
Stockfresh
Cutcaster

There's a few others but I think these are essential for most non-exclusives.  And have a search here for threads about Warmpicture.