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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: velocicarpo on September 26, 2011, 12:19
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Please excuse the harsh Title...but I have to admit that I am happy to see that istock is constantly losing traffic.
Look at this: http://trends.google.com/websites?q=istockphoto.com&sa=N (http://trends.google.com/websites?q=istockphoto.com&sa=N)
For me, it is a confirmation that our measurements, boycotts, spreading the word along with istocks very own arrogant and bad management IS HAVING A HUGE EFFECT.
Things take time. We should continue to boycott bad sites. Continue to spread the word. Do not buy anymore on those sites (like me, I switched a whole company from istock to DT) etc....
On the other hand, I notice that some small and newcomer sites are growing constantly. Especially Depositphotos, Veer and GL. Customers are moving.
It clearly shows that a (big) company can NOT do whatever it wants without consequences. In the long run, we will have success...
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Please excuse the harsh Title...but I have to admit that I am happy to see that istock is constantly losing traffic.
Look at this: [url]http://trends.google.com/websites?q=istockphoto.com&sa=N[/url] ([url]http://trends.google.com/websites?q=istockphoto.com&sa=N[/url])
For me, it is a confirmation that our measurements, boycotts, spreading the word along with istocks very own arrogant and bad management IS HAVING A HUGE EFFECT.
Things take time. We should continue to boycott bad sites. Continue to spread the word. Do not buy anymore on those sites (like me, I switched a whole company from istock to DT) etc....
On the other hand, I notice that some small and newcomer sites are growing constantly. Especially Depositphotos, Veer and GL. Customers are moving.
It clearly shows that a (big) company can NOT do whatever it wants without consequences. In the long run, we will have success...
Any company that reduces already industry leading low commissions deserves to go down in flames. Lets hope the trend continues, I don't see it chaning anytime soon. Oh wait...maybe Feast will turn things around..lol
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They do seem to of lost a lot of contributors and buyers. If like me, people have deleted a lot of links to their site and visit a lot less often, it's no surprise to see a fall in traffic. Will this hit them financially? Would that make the other sites more cautious when it comes to lowering commissions and losing buyers?
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ZOMG, they're all going down. 911!!!
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=shutterstock.com%2C+dreamstime.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 (http://trends.google.com/websites?q=shutterstock.com%2C+dreamstime.com&geo=all&date=all&sort=0)
(http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=lc&chd=e:2Y2Y2Y2Y2Y2Y2Y2Y,B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6B6,MHIRK9LVMFMjMSMFL8M.MZMJL1L5MMMdNSNnN8PDO-PrOzPTUGUDWNVLVEXXZ3aXXbXkVDYfWFZRaXZafXbfavZ3WMaTbsezWzXTUXTtUeTQUBRHSbO3,,N9KkMpNoPlSORzRISSSWSgRwQ1QnR4RIT-UVWsZpZvcHZRbghUhtjyiahmjXjHjYf8eScxa-WlUqVSZBbFZwYmYcUETiUNXMSoTXRdQ-S8SWRfOjOKLL,&chds=0.0,573418.5&chs=580x188&chco=ffffff00,ffffff00,4684eeff,4684eeff,dc3912ff,4684eeff&chls=1.0,1.0,0.0%7C1.0,1.0,0.0%7C1.75,1.0,0.0%7C1.5,3.0,3.0%7C1.75,1.0,0.0%7C1.5,3.0,3.0&chxt=x&chxr=0,0.0,100.0&chxl=0:%7C%7CJan+2009%7C%7C%7CApr+2009%7C%7C%7CJul+2009%7C%7C%7COct+2009%7C%7C%7CJan+2010%7C%7C%7CApr+2010%7C%7C%7CJul+2010%7C%7C%7COct+2010%7C%7C%7CJan+2011%7C%7C%7CApr+2011%7C%7C%7CJul+2011%7C&chxs=0,443322ff,9.0,0.0&chm=v,443322ff,1,-1,1%7Ct+Daily+Unique+Visitors,676767ff,0,0,10,1%7Ct+Google+Trends,676767ff,0,6,10,1&chg=9.375,33.33,1.0,1.0,3.125)
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Every stock site is trending down - this stat by itself isn't very illustrative...
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Depositphotos is up... http://trends.google.com/websites?q=depositphotos.com&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0 (http://trends.google.com/websites?q=depositphotos.com&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0)
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In wonder why this effect is seen on so many huge sites....the financial crisis? Buyers getting bored by the same old concepts?
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Alexa.com shows iStock going down but ShutterStock going up. Not sure which stats are correct.
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Alexa.com shows iStock going down but ShutterStock going up. Not sure which stats are correct.
This would correlate with my personal stats...
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Alexa.com shows iStock going down but ShutterStock going up. Not sure which stats are correct.
I think Google has much better data.
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IS is falling the fastest among the big 4, but FT has the lowest traffic now. This confirms my suspicion that FT might be in serious trouble.
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Every stock site is trending down - this stat by itself isn't very illustrative...
True and memorial day weekend. On the other hand, didn't someone say last year that sales went up when school was back in session?
Oh wait, traffic doesn't = sales! It's just traffic! :D
The whole thread is about IS haters trying to find something to write about. Hey haters, there's no lack of good material, why scrape for factoids and pseudo facts?
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^^^ true.
Ladies and gentlemen, dudes and dudesses... this has been beaten to death already. Traffic doesn't mean sales.
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^^^ true.
Ladies and gentlemen, dudes and dudesses... this has been beaten to death already. Traffic doesn't mean sales.
But they are related ... at least I have never seen significantly higher sales on a site which has significantly lower traffic. I monitor the sites since about 4 years. First only on Alexa, then on Google trends...
Furthermore: Sales are dropping on istock. Significantly. It is just elss represantative than the traffic stats because I only have access to my personal data here which is correlating with the traffic stats.
Correction: I have to exclude the Extended licenses here which had pushed sometimes the lower traffic sites over some higher traffic sites.
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Every stock site is trending down - this stat by itself isn't very illustrative...
True and memorial day weekend. On the other hand, didn't someone say last year that sales went up when school was back in session?
Oh wait, traffic doesn't = sales! It's just traffic! :D
The whole thread is about IS haters trying to find something to write about. Hey haters, there's no lack of good material, why scrape for factoids and pseudo facts?
Off course I hate istock. Are you a fanboy?
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We were denied our daily bitch about istock by the hacker, got to catch up now :)
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We were denied our daily bitch about istock by the hacker, got to catch up now :)
hehe, doing my best ;-)
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IS is my 2nd best earner after SS, and IS is like 2 times FT (which is my 3rd)
my earnings are low but they keep on increasing on IS for the latest 5 or 6 months and this month will be BME again and I have ELīs rarely so they arenīt the ones bringing my earnings up, I still see buyers at IS and with very RPD like the double of FT or more
despite the low %, currently at 16% I still see something on IS perhaps because my earnings are low and I still havenīt got a big and good portfolio there
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Great stuff!
I am personally doing my best to divert istock members to other sites.. Happy to see I am not alone!
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http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0 (http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0)
Search result trend for "istock" "dreamstime" "fotolia" and "shutterstock" during the last year in the biggest market (the US). Looks pretty steady with IS being searched for twice as often as the others combined.
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[url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0[/url] ([url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0[/url])
Search result trend for "istock" "dreamstime" "fotolia" and "shutterstock" during the last year in the biggest market (the US). Looks pretty steady with IS being searched for twice as often as the others combined.
The USA might be the biggest single market but it is still a fraction of the whole. If you modify the chart to display 'All Regions' then you get a very different picture. I think most of us count our sales in their entirety, not just the ones from the USA.
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http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 (http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0)
All regions, all years :-(
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[url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0[/url] ([url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=0[/url])
Search result trend for "istock" "dreamstime" "fotolia" and "shutterstock" during the last year in the biggest market (the US). Looks pretty steady with IS being searched for twice as often as the others combined.
The USA might be the biggest single market but it is still a fraction of the whole. If you modify the chart to display 'All Regions' then you get a very different picture. I think most of us count our sales in their entirety, not just the ones from the USA.
I would guess buyers from the US, UK, Canada, and Australia (countries that IS is very strong in) spend much more than buyers from much of Europe spend (where fotolia is strong) and from places where shutterstock is strong (indonesia, india, malaysia). I think it matters a lot which market you're in. The biggest advertisers in the world are in the US with the biggest budgets. I would be a little worried about Shutterstock from looking at the google stats since a lot of their share seems to be from countries with lax copyright protection. http://trends.google.com/trends?q=shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 (http://trends.google.com/trends?q=shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0)
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[url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0[/url] ([url]http://trends.google.com/trends?q=istock%2C+dreamstime%2C+fotolia%2C+shutterstock%2C&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0[/url])
All regions, all years :-(
Wow, Shutterstock is going up alot!
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looking at this traffic graphics we would never see DT over FT on the Poll results, so how accurate it is regarding sales?
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In any case, those numbers may be an good explanation for what is going on in our beloved companies and what is forcing them to make all those steps, comission cuts and so on. Looks like the economic environment plays a certain role here....
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Looks like the economic environment plays a certain role here....
brilliant insight, good thing you are here to point this out or where would we be? ;)
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Looks like the economic environment plays a certain role here....
brilliant insight, good thing you are here to point this out or where would we be? ;)
Well, one thing is if a company like istock just needs to meet a certain amount of Profit for the satisfaction of the investors or shareholders, another thing is if a company has to force certain unpleasant measurements in order to remain profitable at all. The first thing is greed, the second thing is need. Huge difference.
No need to get arrogant here....