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ShadySue

« Reply #125 on: June 17, 2011, 12:39 »
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So, I have my second reply, an apology and a removal from her website, so two within a day. Better than CE can manage, as they had a backlog. It'll be interesting to see if they can 'convert' from an apology to a sale. If not, faster to do it myself.

I agree...faster to do yourself. But as pointed out by Holgs, if people think they are only going to get a slap on the wrist, they will likely do it again.


What else do they get from CE?


« Reply #126 on: June 17, 2011, 13:01 »
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I got a nice e-mail back from the greeting card company with the information about the EL they purchased (I had asked if they'd purchased an EL and from which agency) and it checks out. I also found one of my images with some text added being offered at a free wallpaper site (www.wallpapersbot.com), e-mailed them, and got e-mail back that it had now been removed.

Seems to me that if it becomes known that you can easily be found when you lift things you shouldn't, it may decrease this sort of thing over time. I know people are worried about Google's search increasing unpaid for uses, but I have to think that this balances out overall to a benefit for those of us selling images.

« Reply #127 on: June 17, 2011, 13:15 »
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So, I have my second reply, an apology and a removal from her website, so two within a day. Better than CE can manage, as they had a backlog. It'll be interesting to see if they can 'convert' from an apology to a sale. If not, faster to do it myself.

I agree...faster to do yourself. But as pointed out by Holgs, if people think they are only going to get a slap on the wrist, they will likely do it again.


What else do they get from CE?

Likely nothing, but you mentioned you were hoping they could "convert" into a sale.

« Reply #128 on: June 17, 2011, 13:16 »
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Seems to me that if it becomes known that you can easily be found when you lift things you shouldn't, it may decrease this sort of thing over time. I know people are worried about Google's search increasing unpaid for uses, but I have to think that this balances out overall to a benefit for those of us selling images.

I'm operating on the same theory.

ShadySue

« Reply #129 on: June 17, 2011, 13:28 »
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So, I have my second reply, an apology and a removal from her website, so two within a day. Better than CE can manage, as they had a backlog. It'll be interesting to see if they can 'convert' from an apology to a sale. If not, faster to do it myself.

I agree...faster to do yourself. But as pointed out by Holgs, if people think they are only going to get a slap on the wrist, they will likely do it again.

What else do they get from CE?

Likely nothing, but you mentioned you were hoping they could "convert" into a sale.

I just wondered what they would do/say to make that more likely.
The email I sent the two bloggers (using same pic copied from same magazine site):
Hello, Xxxxxxx,
 I see that you have one of my images on your website, credited 'House
Beautiful', by which I assume that you copied it from their site.
I have full copyright to, and own all rights on this photo, which you can license from iStockphoto,
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-4515461-window-box.php?st=2065230.

Selling photos through agencies is how I earn my living.
However, since your blog is non-commercial, I'll hold off contacting iStock's compliance enforcement department,
to  give you time to purchase a license to use the file.

Thanks for your attention,

« Reply #130 on: June 17, 2011, 13:40 »
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I just wondered what they would do/say to make that more likely.
The email I sent the two bloggers (using same pic copied from same magazine site):
Hello, Xxxxxxx,
 I see that you have one of my images on your website, credited 'House
Beautiful', by which I assume that you copied it from their site.
I have full copyright to, and own all rights on this photo, which you can license from iStockphoto,
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-4515461-window-box.php?st=2065230.

Selling photos through agencies is how I earn my living.
However, since your blog is non-commercial, I'll hold off contacting iStock's compliance enforcement department,
to  give you time to purchase a license to use the file.

Thanks for your attention,



That's an excellent way of putting it. I always gave a choice, either take it down or purchase a license, but I like your approach better. No choice...buy a license. Thanks for posting that.  :)

« Reply #131 on: June 17, 2011, 13:42 »
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I wouldn't say "However, since your blog is non-commercial", because that sounds like being non-commercial makes a difference.  I'd allude that you are just giving a grace period before the notification.

ShadySue

« Reply #132 on: June 17, 2011, 14:06 »
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I just wondered what they would do/say to make that more likely.
The email I sent the two bloggers (using same pic copied from same magazine site):
Hello, Xxxxxxx,
 I see that you have one of my images on your website, credited 'House
Beautiful', by which I assume that you copied it from their site.
I have full copyright to, and own all rights on this photo, which you can license from iStockphoto,
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-4515461-window-box.php?st=2065230.

Selling photos through agencies is how I earn my living.
However, since your blog is non-commercial, I'll hold off contacting iStock's compliance enforcement department,
to  give you time to purchase a license to use the file.

Thanks for your attention,



That's an excellent way of putting it. I always gave a choice, either take it down or purchase a license, but I like your approach better. No choice...buy a license. Thanks for posting that.  :)

That was my intention, but it didn't work. Both just removed the pics.

lisafx

« Reply #133 on: June 17, 2011, 17:37 »
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I understand your motives and I would kinda agree witrh you, but it really is waste of time especially if they don't even buy it afterwards. You can go crazy hunting the web if you take this too seriously, there's just an army of millions and millions vs. you. IMHO: hopeless. : /

I'm afraid I have to agree on this one.  Just reading through this thread and seeing the amount of time people are spending chasing down misuse makes me hesitant to even try the service. 

Not that I am okay with people stealing my images and using them for free.  Just that if I spent all my time policing use of my images, with little chance of compensation, I wouldn't have time to actually shoot and upload new images. 

Seems like a case of prioritizing your time. 

ShadySue

« Reply #134 on: June 17, 2011, 19:48 »
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Just had another thought ~
It's now much easier for potential customers to check images in online adverts which claim to actually be a product - just prompted by finding some of my (probably legitimately purchased) images purporting to be something else entirely.

« Reply #135 on: June 18, 2011, 03:22 »
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I think people became more wary about sharing music files online when bodies like the RIAA started taking legal action against them and it received lots of publicity.  I don't think we have anything like that but I think the sites should go after a few of the more blatant copyright infringers.  It should be quite straightforward when some of these people have watermarks on their images.  A few legal cases would receive publicity and I think that would do a lot more than us sending requests to individuals that are probably just going to remove the images at best.

« Reply #136 on: June 18, 2011, 04:53 »
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How do I issue a DMCA notice on a site with no contact info? 

http://wallpapersnova.com

ShadySue

« Reply #137 on: June 18, 2011, 05:52 »
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How do I issue a DMCA notice on a site with no contact info?  
http://wallpapersnova.com


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« Reply #138 on: June 18, 2011, 06:01 »
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Thank you.

« Reply #139 on: June 18, 2011, 07:04 »
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Sorry Guys have not read this whole thread however have to say that not sure it was a good thing reading istocks Forum this morning about Google Image search lol

Seriously I have spent the best part of the morning requesting the removal of just one of my best selling Images from a selection of websites selling free wallpapers  (groan) one in particular has had the said landscape Image of mine 1600x1200  for a year with Total free Downloads: 1,791  :o >:(

Have lodged a DMCA Copyright Violation as being Independent doubt IS will get on the case any day soon

You may want to check this web site       http://www.desktopnexus.com/

Not sure if I dare look for my other files with GIS to distressing  ;)

ShadySue

« Reply #140 on: June 18, 2011, 07:17 »
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You may want to check this web site       http://www.desktopnexus.com/

That's ironic, they have a DCMA copyright link on the bottom of their home page, which leads you to this:
http://www.desktopnexus.com/dmca
Interested to see how fast they resolve your issue.

« Reply #141 on: June 18, 2011, 08:44 »
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I understand your motives and I would kinda agree witrh you, but it really is waste of time especially if they don't even buy it afterwards. You can go crazy hunting the web if you take this too seriously, there's just an army of millions and millions vs. you. IMHO: hopeless. : /

I'm afraid I have to agree on this one.  Just reading through this thread and seeing the amount of time people are spending chasing down misuse makes me hesitant to even try the service. 

Not that I am okay with people stealing my images and using them for free.  Just that if I spent all my time policing use of my images, with little chance of compensation, I wouldn't have time to actually shoot and upload new images. 

Seems like a case of prioritizing your time. 

I totally agree with you, but on the other hand, how motivated am I to work my a*s off shooting more photos, knowing that if NOTHING gets done about the whole problem, I am totally wasting my time, too, because all of my images will be for FREE! After seeing all these sites, it's no wonder all of our sales are tanking. Between greedy agencies and thieves... ::)

I won't spend all my time chasing down thieves, but just think about the impact we could have if each one of us contributors (and how many of us are there...tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands?) sends out a couple of notices every week or two. On top of reporting them all to the agencies (if the image is watermarked and we are certain where it came from). I don't see it any different than any other business, where you do work for someone, they don't pay the bill, and you put a certain amount of time in every week making collection phone calls.


« Reply #142 on: June 18, 2011, 10:18 »
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You may want to check this web site       http://www.desktopnexus.com/

That's ironic, they have a DCMA copyright link on the bottom of their home page, which leads you to this:
http://www.desktopnexus.com/dmca
Interested to see how fast they resolve your issue.


Yes thats the link I followed, will keep you posted ;)

BTW if you look under 'Photograpy' there are an awful lot of high Quality Images I recognize and whats more alarming is the amount of DL's, obviously a very opular site  ::)

ShadySue

« Reply #143 on: June 18, 2011, 10:20 »
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You may want to check this web site       http://www.desktopnexus.com/

That's ironic, they have a DCMA copyright link on the bottom of their home page, which leads you to this:
http://www.desktopnexus.com/dmca
Interested to see how fast they resolve your issue.


Yes thats the link I followed, will keep you posted ;)

BTW if you look under 'Photograpy' there are an awful lot of high Quality Images I recognize and whats more alarming is the amount of DL's, obviously a very opular site  ::)


I guess we'd need to find some iStock exclusive pics there, then they might take it up.
Better still, Getty.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 10:23 by ShadySue »

« Reply #144 on: June 18, 2011, 14:27 »
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I found one of mine in several folders like this:
http://www.dncs.com.au/hosting/ebay/yellow/

Using TinEye I was able to find some of them in microstock and even at Getty. Thumbnails, unwatermarked.

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« Reply #145 on: June 19, 2011, 12:39 »
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Amazing feature.  About time Google implemented it.

I only looked up one image and found lots of infringements... 30 on DT alone so I've reported them.  I figure it's worth it because it's a level 5 image and there are so many! I think this Google feature will give us a chance to start educating people.  There are lots that steal knowing full well they're stealing but there are also plenty that believe anything on the net is up for grabs.  I remember when napster first came out.  The majority of people were downloading music without even knowing they were doing anything wrong.  Nowadays people think twice before downloading anything from a P2P site.  It's the same in the this case, we need to educate people.  It's not really the designers that need educating, it's more blog and website owners.  That's where I'm finding most of them.

« Reply #146 on: June 19, 2011, 12:47 »
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I think people became more wary about sharing music files online when bodies like the RIAA started taking legal action against them and it received lots of publicity.  I don't think we have anything like that but I think the sites should go after a few of the more blatant copyright infringers.  It should be quite straightforward when some of these people have watermarks on their images.  A few legal cases would receive publicity and I think that would do a lot more than us sending requests to individuals that are probably just going to remove the images at best.

Yes! We as individuals should not have to pursue infringers. That will not work. It should be the job of the microstock sites. With some of them taking up to 85% commissions from us, they should have money to get some IP lawyers and public relations people on this IMO.

« Reply #147 on: June 19, 2011, 13:20 »
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I agree that bloggers are probably among the most common infractors - they are for sure when it comes to watermarked images.

I found an image of mine in several blogs, all in 400x300, which is the regular XS size.  It's an image that sells well indeed, but I wonder if really all those bloggers purchased a license.  Maybe they did, and I am just hunting ghosts. :)

« Reply #148 on: June 19, 2011, 14:47 »
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So far, I haven't found many "infringements", aside from XXL images hosted online.  Maybe that speaks to selling exclusively.  Or maybe the thieves think my stuff is garbage. :)  I am going to have someone go through my portfolio looking for things to send to CE.

« Reply #149 on: June 19, 2011, 15:28 »
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Found numerous free wallpaper sites with one of my images.  Have contacted some of them and gotten replies stating the image would be removed.


 

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