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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: PaulieWalnuts on July 15, 2014, 21:44

Title: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on July 15, 2014, 21:44
Where do these freebie hunters get the balls?

I had a "non-profit" contact me wanting to use a photo. I sent her detail on how she could inexpensively license it. She replied back totally offended that I suggest she pay for it and then want on to explain again that they're a non-profit. Like they're entitled to not pay for anything. I've been in business consulting for a long time. Most non-profits have plenty of money to spend.

And today I had another one. What's funny is the emails are almost all identical. Like they all use the same template.

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Hello,

Just wanted to say I absolutely LOVE your work. You are an AMAZING photographer (Translation: I'm trying to compliment and flatter you to lessen the impact of the bu11shit I'm about to tell you)

I work for a [small company, startup, non-profit, myself] and am interested in using one of your amazing images (Translation: I'm about to tell you I have no money or don't want to pay you in exchange for using your amazing images)

We are located [in an ultra affluent city] but [have no budget, have no money, can't offer you any money]. We have [limited this, no that] but would gladly give you credit on your photo. (Translation: I just totally lied to you that I have no money. But I want your image for free to use for my benefit and am doing so without using that nasty word "free")

I have a tight deadline to meet and am really anxious for your response so I can get a copy of the image (Translation: This is a high priority for me so please drop whatever you're doing with your paying customers and jump through flaming hoops for my request for free stuff. )

Yours truly,

Entitled Freebie Hunter

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Post by: Maximilian on July 15, 2014, 21:51
 :D
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Post by: disorderly on July 15, 2014, 22:07
I wonder how often it works for them.  Maybe it's like spammers: send out millions of requests and a few will pay off.  Me, I tell 'em no and end the conversation the moment I know there's no profit to be made.
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Post by: Goofy on July 15, 2014, 22:14
I've seen how much some of these non-profit companies make- executives earning over 100K plus a year salary and live in million dollar homes! One famous company the CEO has his own helicopter!
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Post by: Goofy on July 15, 2014, 22:15
Where do these freebie hunters get the balls?

I had a "non-profit" contact me wanting to use a photo. I sent her detail on how she could inexpensively license it. She replied back totally offended that I suggest she pay for it and then want on to explain again that they're a non-profit. Like they're entitled to not pay for anything. I've been in business consulting for a long time. Most non-profits have plenty of money to spend.

And today I had another one. What's funny is the emails are almost all identical. Like they all use the same template.




--------------------->

Hello,

Just wanted to say I absolutely LOVE your work. You are an AMAZING photographer (Translation: I'm trying to compliment and flatter you to lessen the impact of the bu11shit I'm about to tell you)

I work for a [small company, startup, non-profit, myself] and am interested in using one of your amazing images (Translation: I'm about to tell you I have no money or don't want to pay you in exchange for using your amazing images)

We are located [in an ultra affluent city] but [have no budget, have no money, can't offer you any money]. We have [limited this, no that] but would gladly give you credit on your photo. (Translation: I just totally lied to you that I have no money. But I want your image for free to use for my benefit and am doing so without using that nasty word "free")

I have a tight deadline to meet and am really anxious for your response so I can get a copy of the image (Translation: This is a high priority for me so please drop whatever you're doing with your paying customers and jump through flaming hoops for my request for free stuff. )

Yours truly,

Entitled Freebie Hunter

it just never ends it seems... :-[


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Post by: PaulieWalnuts on July 15, 2014, 23:27
I wonder how often it works for them.  Maybe it's like spammers: send out millions of requests and a few will pay off.  Me, I tell 'em no and end the conversation the moment I know there's no profit to be made.

I'm guessing it must work pretty frequently with amateurs who are overjoyed someone is interested in their work or even "pros" who think credit is worth something. Credit may be worth something in some rare situations but never from what I've seen.

They obviously have the gameplan worked out. Compliment, cry broke, offer credit. So it must work. They almost always offer "credit" like it's some magical new form of payment. I am sometimes tempted to respond. "Hey I tried that new credit thing you mentioned. I told the gas station I need a fillup and I don't have any money. But I'd be glad to give them credit by putting one of their small company stickers in my car window. They called the police. I also tried it when I went to buy camera equipment and they threw me out of the store. Doesn't seem like anybody takes this new credit thing yet so neither can I."

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Post by: enstoker on July 15, 2014, 23:50
It is another spam mail, where I just use DELETE...
Oh, yesterday I won 25.000.000 $ on lottery, again.
And I never bought a lottery ticket...
 :)
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Post by: Ariene on July 16, 2014, 01:09
Got it few times. It finished in spam immediately. Reading this is waste of time, nothing more. For your safety better don't reply at all.
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Post by: Mantis on July 16, 2014, 08:12
Those non profits do have money. I am in a situation right now were I have been volunteering annually for the last 7 years shooting an epilepsy fundraiser. I donate all of the edited images for promotional purposes. This year they hired (paid) another photographer to essentially double the number of images. Once I found that out, I told my assistant that this was my last year. I asked the head organizer if they were unhappy with my work and they said oh no, you are the best. So why did you hire another photographer? Well, we didn't want to miss anything while you shot the group sessions. Then plan better.

Anyway, not trying to steal this thread Paulie W just making a point that nons have money. Frustrating.
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Post by: Shelma1 on July 16, 2014, 08:37
I freelanced for a non-profit for a while last year. They wanted me to do work outside my normal scope of work, which required purchasing a piece of $200 software. When I asked how I'd go about being reimbursed for the purchase (of course, they also expected I'd work on my own laptop), they were incensed. The head of marketing (who makes more than 300K) actually yelled at my supervisor that I should pay for the software myself (out of my part-time freelance income) "because we're a non-profit, after all!" Meanwhile she spent at least $1,000 providing catered food for their weekly lunchtime marketing meeting. $1,000 a week, every week.

BTW, they absolutely do pay for photography and illustration, just like everyone else. In fact, they hired photographers all the time to shoot their fundraising events (like their annual weeklong conference in Miami, attended by more than 2,000 employees from all over the country, in one of the area's best resorts).
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Post by: Mantis on July 16, 2014, 08:39
I freelanced for a non-profit for a while last year. They wanted me to do work outside my normal scope of work, which required purchasing a piece of $200 software. When I asked how I'd go about being reimbursed for the purchase (of course, they also expected I'd work on my own laptop), they were incensed. The head of marketing (who makes more than 300K) actually yelled at my supervisor that I should pay for the software myself (out of my part-time freelance income) "because we're a non-profit, after all!" Meanwhile she spent at least $1,000 providing catered food for their weekly lunchtime marketing meeting. $1,000 a week, every week.

BTW, they absolutely do pay for photography and illustration, just like everyone else. In fact, they hired photographers all the time to shoot their fundraising events (like their annual weeklong conference in Miami, attended by more than 2,000 employees from all over the country, in one of the area's best resorts).

I pulsed you since we share the same frustration ;)
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Post by: robhainer on July 16, 2014, 09:08
I'm sure it's frustrating. But at the same time, there's nothing wrong with donating your work to a cause you believe in like an animal shelter or something. I'm photographing an event for free for a charity in a couple of weeks just because I want to support it and help out. 

I will get credit for the donated property though, and write it off on my taxes.
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Post by: ShadySue on July 16, 2014, 09:28
I'm sure it's frustrating. But at the same time, there's nothing wrong with donating your work to a cause you believe in like an animal shelter or something. I'm photographing an event for free for a charity in a couple of weeks just because I want to support it and help out. 

I will get credit for the donated property though, and write it off on my taxes.

I agree, and at the moment donating time/skill works better for me than donating money, as I used to when I had a full-time job, so little free time. No different from baking cakes for fundraisers, which I don't do.
In any case charities (in the UK) seem to be different from 'non-profits', e.g. they have to publish their figures, specifying what percentage of their income actually goes directly to the work they do, as opposed to for publications, promotion, education, wages etc. and the public hate it if that figure goes below 90% (of course, it's all relative, and for a tiny charity, one worker on minimum wage might easily take them below the 90%).
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Post by: Shelma1 on July 16, 2014, 09:29
There's a big difference between donating to a cause you believe in and having people who are perfectly capable of paying troll for freebies just because.
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 16, 2014, 12:50
Got it few times. It finished in spam immediately. Reading this is waste of time, nothing more. For your safety better don't reply at all.

I always do reply to these requests for using images for free and my reply is a big NO.  I do not want there to be any doubt in anybody's mind that they CAN NOT use me images for free.  I think if they don't hear back they may just think its okay to use.
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 16, 2014, 12:56
There's a big difference between donating to a cause you believe in and having people who are perfectly capable of paying troll for freebies just because.

Exactly right.  I also donate time and pictures to a local nonprofit that I work with for years.  When one of their board members asked me to do the same for another charity she's involved with and I said I was to busy she got mad and talked me down to a lot of people.
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Post by: JPSDK on July 16, 2014, 14:48
I once met a guy in Copenhagen who was collecting money for abused animals.
He showed me pictures of bears with rings in their noses and leopard furs and wounded rhinos with no horns.
It as all so sad and the animals were so abused. There were also lame dogs with 3 legs, with scabies.

Such a pity.
Then I asked him if he was paid to do the fundraising, and yes he was, he proudly answered. 10 dollars pr. hour.
"Well, I sell cement" I answered. "What do you sell, ---sufferings and pity?".

What I mean to say is that they are all full of s+++, they sell guilt and shame.
And that has been heard of before, once back in time you could even buy you self a place in Paradise, maybe you still can?

I detest those parasites, who prey upon our concience and morals and make a rich living for one or 2 of the gurus.

And when it comes to giving pictures away for free, Inever do it. Or almost never, sometimes I even have fun with asking a free summerhouse or car for just for a week or something.
But there is never anything free the other way. And it proves that the folder with the credit never shows up or the book or whatever they promised you.
If you give away anything for free, you get devaluated and people piss on you.




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Post by: ultimagina on July 16, 2014, 14:52
I found one of my photos shamelessly copied from flickr and used to promote a major event for the doctors and healthcare people in New York.

I asked for compensation, but they prefered to take it down and replace it with something else. These poor New York surgeons cannot afford to license a photo! What about that?

If you wonder, i shutdown my Flickr account. I'm tired to fight an uphill battle with all these freeloaders.


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Post by: gillian vann on July 16, 2014, 19:33
looks like it's contagious. about 6 weeks ago I had a large US delivery company ask to use one of pics, that she referred to a "more of a snapshot" then went on to compliment the rest of my work and cried poor and offered to credit my name. I emailed her back saying she was welcome to licence the photo for a fee or else she could go and "snap" one of her own.... never heard back.
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Post by: cathyslife on July 16, 2014, 20:42
I am happy to report that i do freelance work for a non-profit, have been for about 3 years. They pay my fee, no questions asked, and they pay as soon as i send an invoice. Sometimes i do stuff and don't charge, just because they are good to me. And i appreciate it, because most of the time, it's like you guys are saying. They drive up in their bmw or biga$$ suv then want something for nothing.



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Post by: wordplanet on July 16, 2014, 21:18
Just took photos a couple weeks ago of a fundraiser for a local magazine. The non-profit it was supporting had another photographer there being paid for taking photos for use by the non-profit. I got a great photo of a woman who lives in my town that went into the mag. She asked me for another photo (not used by the magazine, they only pay me for the photos they use, I keep my copyright to all and am free to do what I want with those they don't use) that a friend of hers wanted to put on the non-profit's website.

I offered it to her at a huge discount (a token amount that would enable me to insure that it was licensed rather than given away). Got a scathing email back that I was such a terrible person expecting a non-profit to pay for a photo. This person bid over $2,000 at the auction for an item worth far less, but couldn't pay a token sum for a photo. In every email, including the one reaming me, she kept saying what a good photographer I am and how great my photos are. I'm really sick of this entitlement mentality. A compliment is nice but it won't buy groceries.

Clearly, the OP is not alone!
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Post by: PaulieWalnuts on July 17, 2014, 05:56
There's a big difference between donating to a cause you believe in and having people who are perfectly capable of paying troll for freebies just because.

Yes exactly! 

ETA: And I wasn't targeting non-profits. Just used that one as an example. I get contacted by a variety of opportunists who have some creative excuses for why they can't, or shouldn't have to, pay for my images.
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Post by: Red Dove on July 17, 2014, 07:36
You should connect with Beatrix the Yoga spammer. Beatrix might recommend a position whereby those taking salaries yet expecting everyone else to work for bugger all, will somehow end up with their own foot up their arse.
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Post by: Mantis on July 17, 2014, 08:15
You should connect with Beatrix the Yoga spammer. Beatrix might recommend a position whereby those taking salaries yet expecting everyone else to work for bugger all, will somehow end up with their own foot up their arse.


Lol
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Post by: Elenathewise on July 17, 2014, 12:02
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. I have a dream that one say I will own my own social media website. This summer I am currently in the middle of building that social media website called ***. I want this website to be the finest social media website out there. Then I saw you incredible photography and are amazed by your skill. So I was just asking for your permission to use one of your photographs on my website. For you it would be great advertisement for your company and your work can deserve as much recognition as possible. I will provide an ink mark and a link to your website on the image.For me it would be a honour to have one of your pieces on my website. I am sorry if this has been a waste off your time reading this and you do not want to give me your permission its just I want my website to be perfect and your work would make it complete. In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves but I cant afford these big rental fee's some photography charge so it would mean a lot if you could help me out and make my dreams come true.

Please could you reply as soon as possible

Many Thanks,
***** "


And here is what I replied:
"Dear ****,
I appreciate your kind words about my photography. However, I do not need "credits" or "advertising" - my business is to sell photos and I am doing quite well. I am a bit confused that you mentioned "big rental fees"; you can easily purchase a legal right to use my images on your website for as little as $5 (at www.elenaphoto.com (http://www.elenaphoto.com), web resolution). Surely it would be worth to sacrifice a couple of coffees to make your dreams come true?
Good luck with your project,
Elena."


Am I mean?

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Post by: Mantis on July 17, 2014, 12:26
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. I have a dream that one say I will own my own social media website. This summer I am currently in the middle of building that social media website called ***. I want this website to be the finest social media website out there. Then I saw you incredible photography and are amazed by your skill. So I was just asking for your permission to use one of your photographs on my website. For you it would be great advertisement for your company and your work can deserve as much recognition as possible. I will provide an ink mark and a link to your website on the image.For me it would be a honour to have one of your pieces on my website. I am sorry if this has been a waste off your time reading this and you do not want to give me your permission its just I want my website to be perfect and your work would make it complete. In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves but I cant afford these big rental fee's some photography charge so it would mean a lot if you could help me out and make my dreams come true.

Please could you reply as soon as possible

Many Thanks,
***** "


And here is what I replied:
"Dear ****,
I appreciate your kind words about my photography. However, I do not need "credits" or "advertising" - my business is to sell photos and I am doing quite well. I am a bit confused that you mentioned "big rental fees"; you can easily purchase a legal right to use my images on your website for as little as $5 (at [url=http://www.elenaphoto.com]www.elenaphoto.com[/url] ([url]http://www.elenaphoto.com[/url]), web resolution). Surely it would be worth to sacrifice a couple of coffees to make your dreams come true?
Good luck with your project,
Elena."


Am I mean?



Sweet as honey.
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 17, 2014, 12:31

Am I mean?

No.  It was very well put.  I get the starving students all the time too. 
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Post by: jefftakespics2 on July 17, 2014, 12:49
We were once asked by the XXX Bankers Association for free photos, since the are a non-profit agency. We pointed out that their members were multi-billion dollar corporations and they could perhaps donate some money to cover the cost. Another time a company recently started by an investment banker who had just purchased the most expensive townhouse ever in Manhattan balked at paying a relatively small fee to use a photo. It's unbelievable how cheap people can be about photography and its value. 
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Post by: Red Dove on July 17, 2014, 13:32
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular 17 year old studying for my a levels.....it would mean a lot if you could help me out and make my dreams come true.

Please could you reply as soon as possible

Many Thanks,
***** "


And here is what I replied:
"Dear ****,
I appreciate your kind words about my photography. However, I do not need "credits" or "advertising" - my business is to sell photos and I am doing quite well.  Surely it would be worth to sacrifice a couple of coffees to make your dreams come true?

Am I mean?

I'd be surprised if the author was in fact 17 and not some fat 52 year old charlatan.

If they are indeed 17 I'd be inclined to point out the majority of us get nothing for nothing in this world and that anyone aspiring to create the "finest" social media website ever really ought to toughen up asap and get a newspaper delivery job or tap their parents for a few quid, rather than writing begging letters.

I am being mean.
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 17, 2014, 15:27
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular 17 year old studying for my a levels.....it would mean a lot if you could help me out and make my dreams come true.

Please could you reply as soon as possible

Many Thanks,
***** "


And here is what I replied:
"Dear ****,
I appreciate your kind words about my photography. However, I do not need "credits" or "advertising" - my business is to sell photos and I am doing quite well.  Surely it would be worth to sacrifice a couple of coffees to make your dreams come true?

Am I mean?

I'd be surprised if the author was in fact 17 and not some fat 52 year old charlatan.

If they are indeed 17 I'd be inclined to point out the majority of us get nothing for nothing in this world and that anyone aspiring to create the "finest" social media website ever really ought to toughen up asap and get a newspaper delivery job or tap their parents for a few quid, rather than writing begging letters.

I am being mean.

Sometimes the truth hurts.  Any kid begging for free images that can be had for $5 needs to hear it.
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Post by: DF_Studios on July 17, 2014, 21:24
Non-profits have plenty of expenses.  Check out your local college or hospital.  They have millions of dollars worth of expenses (i.e. payments)
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Post by: gemmy12 on July 17, 2014, 23:05
How can people even write such emails. Ok you are running a non profit organisation, so what, i am not running any non profit organisation.
I think she was successful with this email earlier somewhere so she just pasted the same to try on you.
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Post by: pyrst on July 17, 2014, 23:32
It's not just emails, it's real life too. I was called up 2 days before new years eve by a promoter. They were launching a new drink. They had sponsored a whole new year's eve party, had paid hostesses lined up for the evening to work the floor. She wanted a photographer from 9 pm and more or less the whole night. And her budget was less than 100 euro for the photographer! But the photographer would of course 'be at the party' and get free drinks, i.e. this is a fun event for you to hang at!
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Post by: Silken Photography on July 18, 2014, 07:56
It's not just emails, it's real life too. I was called up 2 days before new years eve by a promoter. They were launching a new drink. They had sponsored a whole new year's eve party, had paid hostesses lined up for the evening to work the floor. She wanted a photographer from 9 pm and more or less the whole night. And her budget was less than 100 euro for the photographer! But the photographer would of course 'be at the party' and get free drinks, i.e. this is a fun event for you to hang at!

You should have gone, drunk as much of the free drink as you could manage, taken plenty of photos and sent them in with the comment, "This is what paying in booze gets you" ;)
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Post by: ShadySue on July 18, 2014, 08:08
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. "

"Dear 17 year old,
I presume one of your A Levels (notice capitalisation) isn't English Language."
IOW, caught out in your very first sentence.

In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves
Take your own photos, then.

The funny thing is the whole of that contact sounds far more American than English, yet the English exam reference.
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Post by: Megastock on July 18, 2014, 11:15
I'm still shocked when I let someone know they can purchase what they want for a few dollars and they walk away...  With music the vast majority of people accept paying $0.99 for a song or an app that they can't use commercially, it is that with photos people think anyone can take them?  Kind of contradicted by the interested party starting out with 'your work is amazing'...
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 18, 2014, 11:21
I'm still shocked when I let someone know they can purchase what they want for a few dollars and they walk away...  With music the vast majority of people accept paying $0.99 for a song or an app that they can't use commercially, it is that with photos people think anyone can take them?  Kind of contradicted by the interested party starting out with 'your work is amazing'...

Yes.  Very confusing to say. ' your work is amazing'  but then assume it has no value at the same time??
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Post by: Shelma1 on July 18, 2014, 11:21
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. "

"Dear 17 year old,
I presume one of your A Levels (notice capitalisation) isn't English Language."
IOW, caught out in your very first sentence.

In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves
Take your own photos, then.

The funny thing is the whole of that contact sounds far more American than English, yet the English exam reference.

It doesn't sound American to me...sounds like a form email written by someone who speaks English as a second language.
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Post by: ShadySue on July 18, 2014, 12:24
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. "

"Dear 17 year old,
I presume one of your A Levels (notice capitalisation) isn't English Language."
IOW, caught out in your very first sentence.

In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves
Take your own photos, then.

The funny thing is the whole of that contact sounds far more American than English, yet the English exam reference.

It doesn't sound American to me...sounds like a form email written by someone who speaks English as a second language.
Could be; but it certainly doesn't read like someone who is studying or A Levels.
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Post by: marthamarks on July 18, 2014, 14:59
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. "

"Dear 17 year old,
I presume one of your A Levels (notice capitalisation) isn't English Language."
IOW, caught out in your very first sentence.

In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves
Take your own photos, then.

The funny thing is the whole of that contact sounds far more American than English, yet the English exam reference.

It doesn't sound American to me...sounds like a form email written by someone who speaks English as a second language.

I was going to say the same thing. In my whole, long life as an American-English speaker, I can't recall ever hearing anybody say something like "I am currently just a regular 17 year old". No way, Josť, would an actual 17 year old here say that.
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Post by: ShadySue on July 18, 2014, 15:01
Well and I just got another one today! Here it is:)

"My name is ****, I am currently just a regular  17 year old studying for my a levels. "

"Dear 17 year old,
I presume one of your A Levels (notice capitalisation) isn't English Language."
IOW, caught out in your very first sentence.

In reality I am just a kid trying to make something for themselves
Take your own photos, then.

The funny thing is the whole of that contact sounds far more American than English, yet the English exam reference.

It doesn't sound American to me...sounds like a form email written by someone who speaks English as a second language.

I was going to say the same thing. In my whole, long life as an American-English speaker, I can't recall ever hearing anybody say something like "I am currently just a regular 17 year old". No way, Josť, would an actual 17 year old here say that.
Thanks for the insight Shelma and Martha. That was the very phrase I couldn't imagine a British teenager saying.
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Post by: PeterChigmaroff on July 18, 2014, 17:00
I can commiserate:


Hi! I am sending an email to request use of your picture : African American woman on stability ball" for my website. I am creating a small business in Pittsburgh , PA that is for senior citizens. Our company is aimed to deliver quality in-home exercise programs right to the living room. Your picture would be perfect!!
Please let me know if I have your permission at:

Columbus, the leading travel magazine in the Netherlands, is interested in an item about islands.
Is it possible to request free images (high resolution, minimal size 1 MB) of all the aerial pictures you have from the islands for our upcoming edition? (The bigger we receive the images, the bigger we can place the article.)
Naturally, we will credit the images accordingly and include your URL in our magazine.
Is it possible to receive the images within a week?
Looking forward to your reply.
With kind regards,


I am currently helping two people with choosing photos for them to be used on their company's home page. I am helping by contacting the photographer and asking for permission to use said photo above and to find out from photographer if there will be a fee charge and how much of a fee.
Please feel free to email me back with questions and comments, and please do let me know, and thank you.
I look forward to hearing back from you soon.


    
Hi there,
How do I get permission to seu some of your photos for fliers for SSCC training program? THanks

I'm helping my wife with her first kindle book and thought this picture would be a good one to use for her book cover. Title of her book is: "". If we can use this picture, we will in turn give you credit in the book as well as the website.
We a bit press for time; therefore your earliest response is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I am in the process of writing an article for MSN Cars UK (cars.uk.msn.com) on unusual fuel sources and would like to feature viruses in my article as one such source, and your photo is perfect for that. Please can you let me know if you will allow me to use your image of that if I provide you with a proper credit? My article is due to go live this morning, so I would be grateful for your earliest reply. Please also advise me under what name you'd like me to credit you if you agree to the usage of your image.
Best regards,

Good day!
I'd like to ask your permission for using your photograph  for a sales kit.
upon permission, I shall credit your name at the end of the page.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks & best regards,

Hello
My name is T! I really liked your picture of "Electronic components" I have to ask you a favor!
I am participating in the competition for the design of the folder from UB in Barcelona, Spain, and I want to include your picture in my design, I need the permission of the copyright holder of all photographs that I will settle. I hope you can help me to use yours!
Thank you very much!
greetings
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Post by: marthamarks on July 18, 2014, 22:06
Barf.
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Post by: PixelBytes on July 19, 2014, 10:43
@ Zeus.  OMG!!!  You got the most free loading A_holes of anybody!  At least the one guy designing the website for client did ask about a fee.  Crazyest part is all these bloodsuckers are in such a hurry!

Did you answer back or ignore requests?
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Post by: Shelma1 on July 19, 2014, 11:30
I especially love the request for ALL your aerial island images in high resolution for free, from a leading travel magazine. Boy, does that take a set of...well, you know.
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Post by: WendyT on July 19, 2014, 17:34
I especially love the request for ALL your aerial island images in high resolution for free, from a leading travel magazine. Boy, does that take a set of...well, you know.
Well said Shelma. I do some work for free or discounted for charities I support and that is it! Charities do have budgets for the printed and web site materials. The trouble is Google and Facebook etc have given the general population the idea that all photos and illustrations should be for free.  :'(
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Post by: disorderly on July 19, 2014, 17:52
I blame fashion magazines as well.  Where else do photographers fund entire shoots and then submit them in hope of publication, their only reward seeing their name credited (and of course the hope that someone will see it and offer them paying work).

I was approached by a men's magazine in another part of the world.  They had very specific ideas of what they wanted, and of course they wanted exclusive use of the images.  They were cagy about payment and wanted me to name a figure.  So I named one.  And they came back with one less than half of mine, for 30 images involving six different models and a three month exclusive.  So I said thanks but no.  They'd already wasted more of my time than they were willing to pay for.  But I'm sure they'll find someone who's willing.
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Post by: gnirtS on July 21, 2014, 09:24
I was stuck in the middle of typhoon Haiyan last year. Got some aftermath photos and eventually with batteries and dodgy internet got them onto some stock sites and Flickr.  I got a load of requests from places all stating "no budget" asking for freebies.  These destitute agencies were ones such as Fox news, msnbc, international red cross and banks.
All the photos were on microstock so not bank breaking for them.
Some of the requests I noticed later had licensed the images from stock so I guess they try for free first before paying.
The USGS is another one that had no budget for a large print run information brochure.

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Post by: etudiante_rapide on July 21, 2014, 10:11
lol, u should write back to this bozo and say,
"dude/duda, i am non-profit too, and i need u to send a cheque for $---
as a donation to a starving photographer."

oh, btw, i used to make a lot of money in the heydays of photography,
when we used to get paid. but these days with even the top newspapers
telling us they give  photo credits and people can actually remember us when they eat their fish n chips,
and come to the bottom to see... "oooooh, photo credit Paulie...!!!"
wow, this dude is well-known photographer, really!!!

you can then have an angle, " you know me... i am at the end of your tummy
at the bottom of your fish n chips !!!"
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Post by: PeterChigmaroff on July 21, 2014, 19:31
FWIW that is only some of the ones I've received. I have taken to being terse and to the point. Thanks but I gotta feed the kids. They hate not having shoes in winter -- that sort of thing. Some will actually pay the fee but most just go off searching elsewhere usually commenting about not having the budget. The only freebie I ever gave out was to an organization that helped habitat preservation in the Monterey area. I spent a month there once and loved the place. And yeh, the one asking for all high res aerial images of islands really choked me >:(. Like avgas and planes just sit around for whoever wants to use them.
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Post by: goober on July 21, 2014, 19:43
I don't even get people asking for freebies let alone freelance.
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Post by: etudiante_rapide on July 21, 2014, 23:07
i guess it is the electronic age where you get anything for free ie freeware, youtube, donate if you like me, buy me a coffee, micro stock , etc.  news media today is the same. i remember in 2007 asking the editor of a local newspaper which has been the main read since the 35mm era, if he takes local events editorial on specs.
his reply was, "lol, we really don't pay for anything these days!". and this is just some tabloid i approached in 2007.
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Post by: Elenathewise on July 23, 2014, 21:35
Zeus, I really liked yours:) I wish I saved more of mine, some of them were real gems. I usually just say no and delete them, but looks like they do have entertainment value. Maybe we should put them up on a website for people to read for fun and sell advertising:)

I think what's gonna happen is that all these photogs willing to work/give away images for free are going to starve to death and business will be back to normal:)
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Post by: PeterChigmaroff on July 24, 2014, 17:30

I think what's gonna happen is that all these photogs willing to work/give away images for free are going to starve to death and business will be back to normal:)

I have my fingers crossed.