If creators aren't getting any compensation from AI and seeing their work being regurgitated for big AI bucks - why would anyone bother uploading anything of value to the internet.  What will AI "train" on then?

Indeed. It's funny they call it "train" when the more accurate word is "steal".

It's also funny that people don't quite realize... that the world wide promotion of "zoom" phone calls during convid wasn't for your health & safety... but, it seems - in a big part - training on people's faces & voices and getting a lot of "free" data.

It's also funny that people don't quite realize... that the world wide promotion of "zoom" phone calls during convid wasn't for your health & safety... but, it seems - in a big part - training on people's faces & voices and getting a lot of "free" data.

I didn't know that. Is there any proof this happened?

Read the zoom license agreement for starters. I don't know if they've modified it since convid (they probably have), but it was a very interesting read at the time. I might have a copy it lying around somewhere. If I find it, I'll upload it and send to you. Also - in google - the "ai" generated response says "Notable Shareholders: Some of the top institutional shareholders of Zoom include Vanguard Group, BlackRock, and Fidelity Investments". Vanguard/blackrock was responsible for coordinating a lot of the worldwide nonsense + has its fingers in a lot of pots. The CEO of Blackrock (among others) was the one who basically gave 'marching orders' to fortune 500 company CEOs to promote the DEI, "shareholder/stakeholder capital", etc, etc nonsense (& ceos of those fortune 500 companies needed to 'follow orders' otherwise could be 'let go'. A $20+ million salary for a lot of them seemed to provide incentive. It was really quite fascinating following the money, & seeing what was really going on.

What's also fascinating - is that there were much better alternatives to zoom (and much more well known services in the marketing/conferencing world, i.e., gotowebinar) - yet - a relatively "unknown" company like "zoom" was promoted as "THE" company to use, and most govt agencies (at least the ones I came across) ONLY used "ZOOM"...

And you should also read some of the license agreements/details of how various 'security cameras' - for the "convenience" of being able to watch security footage on your phone that is uploaded to 'the cloud' to keep you 'safe' - how that is really segmented, analyzed, stored, used, etc, etc 'for your safety & protection', of course...

But lol - yes, the timing of "AI" tools, doing AI "faces", "deep learning (aka deep theft)", etc, etc was interesting... esp. up until January of 2023 (before the "news" started promoting ai like there was no tommorow), very few people had really even thought about it, or had an idea of what it is/really was...

Read the zoom license agreement for starters

I rarely read the license agreements, but to be fair AI was not really a thing at the start of Covid, I would have turned my camera off, or maybe impolite hand gestures. 

Security cameras, thanks for the advice, I won't bother or find an alternative. 

Corporatism is a blight at this scale, towns in England all look the same now.    Copy and paste towns, mostly big corporate shops instead of small business owners.  In the more run down towns it's vape shops, betting shops, barber shops.  I try and shop in small business where I can although it's not easy.

1. The "training" (aka theft) was actually going on pre 2020, but - it 2020 was a convenient pretext to collect people's data. And what better way to do that, than to convince the majority of the population WORLDWIDE (so amazed and shocked a small group of very rich and psychotic people managed to pull that off, and that people fell for it - but they've been working on it a long time) to stay home - and the "only way" of communicating was via digital means (aka 'capturable' data).

You'll also notice that's also when all these "ai voice synthesizers" became much better, and the push for "voice print identification". "Training" again. Voice synthesizers have been around for a very long time (i.e., even 1980's) - but this was a convenient way to "train" people's voices to clone them easily/etc.

2. Re: security cameras - yes - FLIR (one of the larger ones, also if I recall does a lot of govt contracts too) is big on pushing the subscription/cloud based model.

3. Yes, re: the cut/paste cities, yes - that is becoming popular many places. I do a lot of drone footage - and - its interesting comparing 'old' neighborhoods with 'new' neighborhoods. The new ones are very cut & paste style, and look like a computer model.