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« on: August 13, 2015, 16:50 »
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https://support.500px.com/hc/en-us/sections/201205657-New-collections-within-Prime-Coming-Soon

TL;DR: they will introduce two different collections, the upper tier priced at current levels and the lower tier priced at "competitive" levels.

*sigh*


stock-will-eat-itself

« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 17:28 »
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At least they are curating their library which will hopefully resonate with buyers.

The damaging mistake is to flatten the price of all images. Supermarkets don't even do this, they have some brand differentiation on their product lines. Micro stock agencies are tech driven not marketing driven which is the root problem for everyone, including the share holders.

« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 17:50 »
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"Pricing for the Core Collection will continue to be above industry norms for royalty-free stock photos and will never be priced at microstock levels."

« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 18:33 »
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The damaging mistake is to flatten the price of all images. Supermarkets don't even do this, they have some brand differentiation on their product lines. Micro stock agencies are tech driven not marketing driven which is the root problem for everyone, including the share holders.

I agree.  They're all wedded to a brain-dead "one size fits all" pricing model which is a huge limitation.   And the reasons for this model are mainly technical.   Buyers of images are like buyers of anything else, they don't start out demanding that every product on the shelves have the same price - unless it's a Dollar Store, which is what microstock has made itself.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2015, 19:02 by stockastic »

« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 21:16 »
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Sounds like a good idea. All files are not created equal.

Also we have to remember how cheap the prices on stocksy are, compared to all the macros and that the high prices on the getty website are just "list prices" and they might easily sell your file for a dollar. And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.

The actual prices paid in macro are much, much lower than most people think.

I see this as an important step in commiting themselves to becoming a strong agency.

If they now solve the watermark issue, i would love to try 500pix.
« Last Edit: August 13, 2015, 21:33 by cobalt »

« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 22:30 »
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I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 02:09 »
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I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

I agree ! I don't know why they don't resolve this problem.  :-\

« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 04:04 »
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I think the biggest issue is all about watermark  for me!!!

I agree ! I don't know why they don't resolve this problem.  :-\

I think they would like to keep the image look good, but they still can't find the balance between Image protection and visual, Im still wait and see!!!

« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 04:24 »
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Does 500px say when, in which date,  we can see this two collections. If process of curating of our images is finished or just starts? By the way at this moment we have two collections at 500px. Better images go to 500prime, worse arent approved there. My doubts are that prime collection will be with higher prices,  the same as present.  Worse images, which aren't approved to prime will be moved there as Core collection  in low prices.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2015, 05:40 by Dragomir Nikolov »

« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2015, 06:13 »
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Does 500px say when, in which date,  we can see this two collections. If process of curating of our images is finished or just starts? By the way at this moment we have two collections at 500px. Better images go to 500prime, worse arent approved there. My doubts are that prime collection will be with higher prices,  the same as present.  Worse images, which aren't approved to prime will be moved there as Core collection  in low prices.

500px is not a collection, as it is not up for sale. As for "better images" -- I have literally never had an image not approved at 500px Prime.

« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2015, 06:22 »
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As for "better images" -- I have literally never had an image not approved at 500px Prime.

Thats encouraging to hear, it means as an artist you can create your own "flow" and have full control over your portfolio.

« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2015, 06:42 »
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There are many artists,  who have some images,  which aren't approved to 500px prime. This is the reason to think that these images will be moved to 500px prime as Core collection.

« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2015, 06:52 »
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And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.


FYI:  Just found one of my best sellers in someone else's EyeEm port.  I wrote support to have it removed.  You all may want to check for your images.

Also isn't eyeem a cell phone photo only site?

« Last Edit: August 14, 2015, 10:10 by trek »

« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2015, 07:33 »
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I wonder how are the sales on 500px Prime. Just signed up but upload seems very time consuming.
I'm afraid of the likes and all the sharing without watermark.

Is anybody making any sales with 300 images for example?
They also sell lower resolution $ 50 for web use, do people actually buy these?
It's better than most EL in the micro world.

« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2015, 09:21 »
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I wonder how are the sales on 500px Prime. Just signed up but upload seems very time consuming.
I'm afraid of the likes and all the sharing without watermark.

Is anybody making any sales with 300 images for example?
They also sell lower resolution $ 50 for web use, do people actually buy these?
It's better than most EL in the micro world.

I've had sales, though very few, with less than 200 images. My best sale there netted me $275, which beats out every other site (although my images at Getty, for example, are priced higher -- I just end up with very little of it).

« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 09:35 »
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And eyeem is pricing all rf at 20 dollars.



Also isn't eyeem a cell phone photo only site?

No, the App is on tablets and smartphone, but you can use any camera, the same like fotolia or all the other mobile stock apps.

You "deliver" via smartphone, which supposedly means you can react much faster. Of course you can also shoot with your phone, many people do.

If you want to eyeem can give you ftp upload.

Many mobile stock apps have assignments that they want to fill quickly, the interaction can be nearreal time. Most important for the editorial photo assignment apps.


Mobile stock is a huge world and its own genre. I am still learning about it and haven't tried all the different marketplaces. The fotolia look is completly different to eyeem and then there are many others.


Eta: thank you for sharing sales data, that is very encouraging.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2015, 09:39 by cobalt »

« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 10:08 »
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FYI:  Just found one of my best sellers in someone else's EyeEm port.  I wrote support to have it removed.  You all may want to check for your images.

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Update:  EyeEm support replied quickly and fixed the problem.  Like that in a agency. 


« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2015, 10:34 »
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Too bad they will be lowering prices... not sure I want to get into this.

If they lower to $ 20 = 14 for the contributor. If sales are rare, may not be worth my time unfortunately.

I guess I'll give it a try with a few hundred images.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2015, 13:55 by Nikovsk »

« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2015, 13:24 »
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New prices:

Core Collection $35 / $150 / $300
Prime Collection $50 / $250 / $750

MxR

« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2015, 13:45 »
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Only 40-50 images, one sale (26,60)

No much time to upload.

« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2015, 14:03 »
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New prices:

Core Collection $35 / $150 / $300
Prime Collection $50 / $250 / $750

Okay, that isn't too bad.

EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?
« Last Edit: August 18, 2015, 14:20 by MarcvsTvllivs »

« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2015, 15:26 »
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EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?

Hey Marc, send us an email to [email protected] and we can fix that for you (or you can bulk edit using the photo organizer). By default the checkbox is unchecked so not sure what happened here and if we can figure out what happened I'd love to address it.

stock-will-eat-itself

« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2015, 16:33 »
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Nuno, the curation seems a bit off.

Not the image quality which is very good but the collections themselves.

US Favourites has locations from all over the world, this image is also in UK Favourites.

https://prime.500px.com/photos/30725501/one-day-in-bagan-by-puchong-pannoi


« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2015, 16:47 »
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EDIT: Something else: While checking my port to see which image went in which collection, I realized that several of my images are listed as exclusive even though I never marked a single image as such. Has anybody else noticed that problem?

Hey Marc, send us an email to [email protected] and we can fix that for you (or you can bulk edit using the photo organizer). By default the checkbox is unchecked so not sure what happened here and if we can figure out what happened I'd love to address it.

Thanks, I'll play around with the editor and if I can't figure it out I'll contact support!

« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2015, 17:10 »
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Thumbs up to 500px for jumping in with proactive contributor support.  Makes me want to join.  But please fix the watermarks!  Maybe add a move to center watermark option for contributors who worry about such things. 


 

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