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Title: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 20, 2015, 18:54
This is just to see how broad of a spectrum the microstockers are coming from.

Are we poor or are we rich or is it evenly spread between all?

Results will be posted after the poll expires in  30 days.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 21, 2015, 02:24
The answers are too far apart. The difference between making  2000 or  24000 per year is huge yet it's in the same bracket.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on April 21, 2015, 02:55
It won't tell you anything. There are parts of the EU (let alone Asia) where the average wage is something like $7,000 a year, so $20,000 would make you the envy of your neighbours, and parts of the Middle East where $10,000 a month would be considered reasonably modest. Then you have the household income which may be quite different from the personal income - an individual might have no income beyond a few hundred a year from microstock but be in a relationship with someone who picks up a million-dollar bonus each year.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: dpimborough on April 21, 2015, 03:08
The ranges are pretty wide you'll probably find 90% (or more) fall in the less than $25,000 bracket  :)
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ShadySue on April 21, 2015, 03:43
Then you have the household income which may be quite different from the personal income - an individual might have no income beyond a few hundred a year from microstock but be in a relationship with someone who picks up a million-dollar bonus each year.
Yes, I was a bit confused about whether "What is your total yearly income level?" meant 'only from microstock'.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Difydave on April 21, 2015, 04:52
I doubt if there are many, if any these days, regular posters here who make half a million dollars a year out of microstock.
I'd have thought that the number of people here with a total income of over say $150K would be pretty small. 

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Difydave on April 21, 2015, 04:53
Double post.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 21, 2015, 06:51
The answers are too far apart. The difference between making  2000 or  24000 per year is huge yet it's in the same bracket.
If anyone is only making $2000 a year then how are they living?

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 21, 2015, 06:55
Not just from microstock.

This is the yearly income from everything micro be it PT or FT, and your regular job if you have one.

Notice I did not say yearly income from microstock?

That should give it away right there.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 21, 2015, 07:00
You are asking for income on a microstock forum. That should give it away right there.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: fotografer on April 21, 2015, 07:11
I just answered as my totol microstock money.  There doesn't seem to be anyway to change it.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: dirkr on April 21, 2015, 07:17
I just answered as my totol microstock money.  There doesn't seem to be anyway to change it.

Same here.
And what do you really mean? Personal income? Family Income? Before Taxes or after?
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 21, 2015, 07:32
You are asking for income on a microstock forum. That should give it away right there.
And what are you telling anyone?

No one not even I will know who voted and what they voted.

So if you voted less then $25,000that could be anything from nothing to $25,000 which is pretty much 25,000 possible incomes and no way for anyone to determine what anyone is making.

It is to see what income levels we are all from. They are just income brackets

crap I know of at least one person who should be answering  anywhere from $100,000 - $250,000 if not more if they tell the truth and like I said no one even I will know who voted what.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 21, 2015, 07:33
I just answered as my totol microstock money.  There doesn't seem to be anyway to change it.
And I have no option allowing me to change this.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 21, 2015, 07:43
You are asking for income on a microstock forum. That should give it away right there.
And what are you telling anyone?

No one not even I will know who voted and what they voted.

So if you voted less then $25,000that could be anything from nothing to $25,000 which is pretty much 25,000 possible incomes and no way for anyone to determine what anyone is making.

It is to see what income levels we are all from. They are just income brackets

crap I know of at least one person who should be answering  anywhere from $100,000 - $250,000 if not more if they tell the truth and like I said no one even I will know who voted what.

You are missing the point. You are being smug that people dont know what exactly it is you are asking but according to you it was a dead give-away. Aparently its not. You are asking for income on a microstock forum, so people will think you are asking for microstock or photography earnings. Turns out you want to know what we are making total, in general, per annum.

Dont be smug, just explain in the OP what it is you want people to vote on.

And I am thinking Leaf can see all answers and who from.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: sunlover on April 21, 2015, 07:49
OK, so I just voted in the 50K - 100K range for TOTAL Annual Income.  Microstock income is very small at less than 1K and other income is around 70K with overtime.  I live in the USA, Provide 4300+ opportunities (images spread among 16 agencies, many are duplicated - same image on multiple sites).

It's not getting me rich quick, but my plan is to supplement my retirement income in the near future.

My images may not be selling like hotcakes, but they do sell, eventually.  I've been VERY surprised at what does sell and at what gets rejected.
 8)
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Artist on April 21, 2015, 08:00
The answers are too far apart. The difference between making  2000 or  24000 per year is huge yet it's in the same bracket.
If anyone is only making $2000 a year then how are they living?

I have seen people making their living with just $1000 a year, come out of your comfort zone and see the real world where percentage of mid-poor is extreme higher than the rich.

Now answer to your question, Why you want to know these facts??? Do your job and love it, money will come automatically. Your work speaks for you.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 21, 2015, 08:29
Oh good, another "my part of the world is more expensive than your part of the world" thread.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 21, 2015, 08:37
Oh good, another "my part of the world is more expensive than your part of the world" thread.
Just sit back and wait for it to get locked.  ;)
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Me on April 21, 2015, 08:41
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Artist on April 21, 2015, 09:35
Oh good, another "my part of the world is more expensive than your part of the world" thread.
Just sit back and wait for it to get locked.  ;)

And bring some popcorns too and have fun.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 09:42
I just shoot for fun and look forward to rejections by Shutter for WB or out of focus  ;D


Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: shudderstok on April 21, 2015, 09:43
What a rude and intrusive poll. My answer is that it's none of your business. So put me in there at a big fat $0.
Only two people need to know what I make, my wife and the IRS.
Nuff said.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 09:59
What a rude and intrusive poll. My answer is that it's none of your business. So put me in there at a big fat $0.
Only two people need to know what I make, my wife and the IRS.
Nuff said.

agree on the the wife knowing what we make but the less you tell the IRS the better.  Maybe this guy works for the IRS and trying to determine what we make to tax us more  ???

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ruxpriencdiam on April 21, 2015, 10:56
I am not asking exact numbers here just trying to see where we all fall in as a majority.

Do we all make it as middle class or are we in the upper or lower income levels.

JHCFMFA!!!!!!!!!

I have asked Tyler to delete the thread.

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OK Tyler since no one understands what the thread I started is about I am requesting it be deleted thanks.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 11:00


I have asked Tyler to delete the thread.

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OK Tyler since no one understands what the thread I started is about I am requesting it be deleted thanks.

I gave you a plus for asking this thread to be deleted  ;)

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Digital66 on April 21, 2015, 11:29
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OK Tyler since no one understands what the thread I started is about I am requesting it be deleted thanks.
The best reason to get this thread deleted is because it's a stupid thread, not that we don't understand what it's about.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 21, 2015, 11:32

I have asked Tyler to delete the thread.

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OK Tyler since I fecked up the OP and its also nobodies business I am requesting it be deleted thanks.
  fixed it for ya
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: spike on April 21, 2015, 11:41
What a rude and intrusive poll. My answer is that it's none of your business. So put me in there at a big fat $0.
Only two people need to know what I make, my wife and the IRS.
Nuff said.
I would agree completely if there wasn't the "my wife" part.

Anyway, I responded like some, only reporting my microstock income. My overall income is none of your business?
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 11:50
a while back someone did a post on- "Show me your best selling images"  this post is similar to that one.   :o

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: ShadySue on April 21, 2015, 12:09
Do we all make it as middle class or are we in the upper or lower income levels.
'Middle class' and 'middle income' are not the same thing.
At all.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Mrblues101 on April 21, 2015, 13:36
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.

For me it is an interesting post, knowing how others earn will help us to have a general view of how you can earn rather than just a personal experience
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 13:41
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.

For me it is an interesting post, knowing how others earn will help us to have a general view of how you can earn rather than just a personal experience

okay, if you must know than Yuri makes around $10 million year and the rest of us make from $1 to less than $10 million  ;)
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Copidosoma on April 21, 2015, 13:50
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.

For me it is an interesting post, knowing how others earn will help us to have a general view of how you can earn rather than just a personal experience

I make $2.5 million per year.  8)

How in the world does that help you get a general view of "how you can earn"? Barry is asking about total income (i.e. not just from stock photography) so it isn't like you can even take the high earners and look at their portfolios to copy their work. It tells you nothing.

Not to mention the fact that a low-five figure income makes you relatively poor in Switzerland but very wealthy in Cambodia. So, another level of "it doesn't matter and it isn't any of your business".
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Mrblues101 on April 21, 2015, 14:08
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.

For me it is an interesting post, knowing how others earn will help us to have a general view of how you can earn rather than just a personal experience

I make $2.5 million per year.  8)

How in the world does that help you get a general view of "how you can earn"? Barry is asking about total income (i.e. not just from stock photography) so it isn't like you can even take the high earners and look at their portfolios to copy their work. It tells you nothing.

Not to mention the fact that a low-five figure income makes you relatively poor in Switzerland but very wealthy in Cambodia. So, another level of "it doesn't matter and it isn't any of your business".

Well maybe im wrong.

Actually im not a newbie but also I'm not an expert in microstock. Now im still working in my "real life" work (aka non-internet work) and also invest almost all my free time creating vector illustrations to upload (im dont work with photos, just vector illustrations); and sometime I doubt if the effort is worth it.

Without this forum I would be a guy uploading images without knowing how much you can expect to earn or what is the best way of doing things, in the other hand information regarding how much other more experienced contributors earn will give me an expectation of how far i can go with this; and especially if they tell us then what was the road traveled (in case they want to share with us).

So I think that the feedback that this post can give to us might be useful and interesting.
Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: No Free Lunch on April 21, 2015, 14:16
Why do you want this information?
For what purpose?
To make some inane assumptions and meaningless comments that no-one cares about?
What difference does it make to you, or anyone else, what I earn, you earn or anyone else earns?
You are asking for personal information without explaining why or what you will do with it.



For me it is an interesting post, knowing how others earn will help us to have a general view of how you can earn rather than just a personal experience

I make $2.5 million per year.  8)

How in the world does that help you get a general view of "how you can earn"? Barry is asking about total income (i.e. not just from stock photography) so it isn't like you can even take the high earners and look at their portfolios to copy their work. It tells you nothing.

Not to mention the fact that a low-five figure income makes you relatively poor in Switzerland but very wealthy in Cambodia. So, another level of "it doesn't matter and it isn't any of your business".

Well maybe im wrong.

Actually im not a newbie but also I'm not an expert in microstock. Now im still working in my "real life" work (aka non-internet work) and also invest almost all my free time creating vector illustrations to upload (im dont work with photos, just vector illustrations); and sometime I doubt if the effort is worth it.

Without this forum I would be a guy uploading images without knowing how much you can expect to earn or what is the best way of doing things, in the other hand information regarding how much other more experienced contributors earn will give me an expectation of how far i can go with this; and especially if they tell us then what was the road traveled (in case they want to share with us).

So I think that the feedback that this post can give to us might be useful and interesting.

Why not just wait a few more weeks for Leaf's survey from 2014 to come out? It has the number of folks, average income, average hours- lot's of great information that all folks will enjoy reading.

Title: Re: How diverse are microstockers
Post by: Mrblues101 on April 21, 2015, 14:35
Why not just wait a few more weeks for Leaf's survey from 2014 to come out? It has the number of folks, average income, average hours- lot's of great information that all folks will enjoy reading.

Well that's great, I had never heard of "Leaf's survey", thank you for the info :D