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How many images do you have on stock sites?

1-100
3 (2.7%)
100-500
8 (7.1%)
500-1000
18 (16.1%)
1000-1500
15 (13.4%)
1500-2000
10 (8.9%)
2000-3000
10 (8.9%)
3000-4000
14 (12.5%)
4000-5000
5 (4.5%)
5000-7000
11 (9.8%)
7000-10,000
6 (5.4%)
10,000- 15,000
6 (5.4%)
15,000- 20,000
3 (2.7%)
20,000+
3 (2.7%)

Total Members Voted: 92

Voting closed: June 12, 2014, 07:48

Author Topic: how many images do "we" control  (Read 8529 times)

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2014, 10:40 »
+5
This is a bit of a loaded question- Technically we control all of the images but in reality industry perception is swayed by a very small number of contributors.
The "Microstock Collective" - www.symbiostock.org/collective/ - currently has 89 participants and just over 100k images. The average vote on initiatives and agency ratings is 30 participants. That is roughly about the same amount of people who contribute here on a regular basis. I think many many contributors are content just to create and upload images and come here to find information. I would bet that less than 10% of the people here actually participate at all. It's a shame because if we could convince some of these quiet people how important they are it might go a long way to helping us collectively make a change.

What is even more concerning is that it is becoming apparent that those few contributors with the loudest voices don't necessarily speak for the majority. Yet because they are the loudest and most vocal people assume what they are saying is the mass opinion. I am beginning to think this is anything but the truth.


Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2014, 11:04 »
+4
They may be involved, but quietly. For example, I doubt only 89 people removed 7 million images from DPC, so many more people must have quietly opted out without saying anything publicly. An online petition might get lots of votes. It's just a matter of what the petition's about. For that you need some initial consensus.

« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2014, 11:16 »
+1
That is what I mean. If all of those contributors would just be vocal enough on a regular basis so we could show our strength it would be amazing. The DPC thing was pretty bad and the outrage was huge. It is a shame that it takes something so incredibly bad to get a reasonable sized response.

« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2014, 11:30 »
+5
That is what I mean. If all of those contributors would just be vocal enough on a regular basis so we could show our strength it would be amazing. The DPC thing was pretty bad and the outrage was huge. It is a shame that it takes something so incredibly bad to get a reasonable sized response.

With punishments from agencies and personal attacks on members who do not follow the group it isn't surprising more people don't speak out. 

« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2014, 06:43 »
+1
OK so I did the math... and from this poll "we" control about 500,000 to 600,000 image.


According to 2013 poll 'we' control 2,045,428 images. 812 respondents * 2519 avg images.


« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2014, 09:51 »
+1
OK so I did the math... and from this poll "we" control about 500,000 to 600,000 image.


According to 2013 poll 'we' control 2,045,428 images. 812 respondents * 2519 avg images.


OK, so this suggests that we "control" about 10% of the images on the agencies, right.

What do we do with this information?  To me, it tells me that we don't carry that much weight.

Even if 100% of us agreed to a mass deletion of images from an agency, that would leave said agency about 10% down... and this would quickly be made up by the masses who are happy to fill the void.  I know I see blatant copying of my work everywhere I look.  I could delete my port from every agency tomorrow and (despite the fact that I sell really well at most agencies) within a few months they wouldn't even know I'm gone.

Shelma1

  • stockcoalition.org
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2014, 10:06 »
+2
Yet "we" opted out almost 7 million images from DPC.  8)

« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2014, 13:26 »
0
Yet "we" opted out almost 7 million images from DPC.  8)

As sales deteriorate those numbers will go up!

stealthmode

« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2014, 15:44 »
0
Total Members Voted: 106
But the sum of number of votes in the last column is 112
Why?

Batman

« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2014, 20:17 »
-3
Yet "we" opted out almost 7 million images from DPC.  8)

Only if you believe that all 7 million are because of DPC, not people leaving or being closed. You have no proof for your claim. What is it now?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2014, 20:34 »
+4
Yet "we" opted out almost 7 million images from DPC.  8)


Only if you believe that all 7 million are because of DPC, not people leaving or being closed. You have no proof for your claim. What is it now?


The evidence is recorded here1: http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-%28deactivation-day%29-may-1/msg385153/#msg385153, being the difference on the date of the post (almost 7 million) between files on Ft and those on DPC, so clearly the people hadn't left or being closed on Fotolia. Of course, others may have left Fotolia too, some because of DPC.

1(Oddly, I can't see the number posted on DPC just now, though I could before.)

« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2014, 09:23 »
0
Yet "we" opted out almost 7 million images from DPC.  8)


Only if you believe that all 7 million are because of DPC, not people leaving or being closed. You have no proof for your claim. What is it now?


The evidence is recorded here1: http://www.microstockgroup.com/fotolia-com/fotolia-d-day-%28deactivation-day%29-may-1/msg385153/#msg385153, being the difference on the date of the post (almost 7 million) between files on Ft and those on DPC, so clearly the people hadn't left or being closed on Fotolia. Of course, others may have left Fotolia too, some because of DPC.

1(Oddly, I can't see the number posted on DPC just now, though I could before.)


Yes the evidence is there and yet we keep hearing from the fatalist that nothing can be done to protect our interests. If sales continue to drop at SS and other sites I am sure those numbers will continue to rise.



 

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