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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2011, 15:17 »
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Possibly they think these images would never be in micros. One day they may know, and then hey won't pay a much more decent price they pay at Alamy.  We say it here "kill the chicken that lays eggs of gold".

Surely they would have a search to find out !?  or do u think buyers are a bit thick ??

They were RF on Alamy, NOT RM !!  Which is a clue ;)


« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2011, 15:48 »
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Possibly they think these images would never be in micros. One day they may know, and then hey won't pay a much more decent price they pay at Alamy.  We say it here "kill the chicken that lays eggs of gold".

Surely they would have a search to find out !?  or do u think buyers are a bit thick ??

They were RF on Alamy, NOT RM !!  Which is a clue ;)

Many companies work directly with stock agencies, they don't go shopping for images.

RacePhoto

« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2011, 18:31 »
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Possibly they think these images would never be in micros. One day they may know, and then hey won't pay a much more decent price they pay at Alamy.  We say it here "kill the chicken that lays eggs of gold".

Surely they would have a search to find out !?  or do u think buyers are a bit thick ??

They were RF on Alamy, NOT RM !!  Which is a clue ;)

Many companies work directly with stock agencies, they don't go shopping for images.

Ah Ha, so if someone has a cheap contract to buy from ThinkStock, they won't be searching all the micro sites, which in the same way, means ThinkStock isn't harming Micro sales. Interesting.

Also interesting how any thread will eventually come around and become a ThinkStock thread for some reason? :D

I have a number of RF images on Alamy, which are not editorial and that's why they are RF. They are large and not on Micro. Also something to consider, maybe the micro sites, wouldn't even take them because they are scenic landscapes.

Many of the newspaper buys on Alamy now are basically Micro prices. I'm not going to claim that they aren't. The books and magazines and some other publications do buy bigger images for bigger prices, so there's the advantage. I won't compete with myself for $1 downloads when I can get maybe $80 - $200 on Alamy. Personal choice. If someone else thinks it's a good idea to offer something for ten bucks on micro and potentially lose a $200 sale on Alamy, then fine, play the game. Just like gambling, the house always wins! (we are not the house...) ;)

Risk vs Reward, it's just that easy.

When the sales and prices are close, and the license type is the same, it doesn't matter much if we have RF dupes on Alamy and Micro. If an image is selling as an Editorial RF sub on IS or SS and at the same time on Alamy as Editorial RM based on usage. There's a huge conflict in pricing. One I get paid 25 cents to $1.50 for one download. The other I get paid $80 for one download. There's something wrong when an artist says it's OK to screw buyers, and take every cent with mixed and confusing duplication or licenses, but the same artist cries foul when the agency cuts commissions 5%. Interesting indeed, when we're the ones taking the cut and getting less value for a dollar, it becomes a big deal.

People who say "buyer beware" price can be high or low, and the same product can be sold anywhere for whatever we want. Well then that same logic applies to those rascal agencies who sell for more through a partner and pay us the same, or charge different prices to various clients and pay us at the lowest rate, or maybe for paying different commissions to people, based on currency or location. If it's OK for one, it's OK for the other? Right? Seller Beware!


 

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