Author Topic: December 2008 earnings breakdown (Read 14692 times)

sharply_done · « **Reply #26 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:14 »

Quote from: avava on January 03, 2009, 23:17

Hi All

I Just want to say that the new age of digital player is so dialed in. I am one of the few old guys in stock that tracks his numbers in Macro stock business but when I look at these color coded lists and percentage breakdowns WOW!. This is definitely a new revolution. I think it rocks. This is just one of the things you are all bringing to stock, real analysis that you are not afraid to share. Bravo.

AVAVA

I take the other side of the coin. After doing microstock for two years, I've found stats like these absolutely meaningless. Yes, there are statistics that matter, but the percentage of total income from each agency isn't one of them - particularly so when total income isn't included as part of the picture. You can applaude all you want about sharing, but when it comes right down to it, almost nobody who does this for a living will share info that truly matters (e.g. total income, income split by concept/sector, keyword efficacy, ...).

Rahul Pathak · « **Reply #27 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:47 »

I take the other side of the coin. After doing microstock for two years, I've found stats like these absolutely meaningless. Yes, there are statistics that matter, but the percentage of total income from each agency isn't one of them - particularly so when total income isn't included as part of the picture.

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Fair point. There are definitely numbers that matter more than composition of sales. (Although that may be useful in deciding where to invest time/effort.)

sharply_done : If you have metrics you care more about, I'd love to hear about them. No need to share specifics, I'm more interested in the general metrics. Please PM if you feel that would be more appropriate. I don't want to take this thread off topic.

CofkoCof · « **Reply #28 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:39 »

Site / Earnings % December / Earnings Yearly / Comparing to November
SS / 28,78% / 46,53% / down 25%
IS / 22,75% / 15,54% / up 2%
DT / 17,86% / 9,19% / up 91% and a BME by a margain
StockXpert / 8,97% / 10,99% / down 7%
123rf / 8,91 / 8,05% / down 29% (November was BME)
FT / 6,5% / 7,54% / down 18%
BigStock / 6,20% / 2,16% / up 150% and more than dubled my previous BME
Overall down 3% on November.

Observations:
- FT really slowed down for me in the last two months. Im down 50% on October which was my BME
- Great month on BigStock, mostly because one image sold really well. Almost stopped uploading to BigStock a few months ago, but this month was encouraging.
- IS started doing better in the second part of the month (opposite than all other sites). Possibly due to some changes in best match. Hoping to see the same trend in January
- DT is becoming the agency I like the most. Good sales, good prices (because of image levels), had an EL this month,...
- SS is down a lot for me, but that's normal since I haven't uploaded for about a month and a half

araminta · « **Reply #29 on:** January 04, 2009, 07:43 »

Quote from: sharply_done on January 04, 2009, 03:14

but when it comes right down to it, almost nobody who does this for a living will share info that truly matters (e.g. total income, income split by concept/sector, keyword efficacy, ...).

I've also noticed that the less downloads a contrubutor has, the more decimal digits there are in his statistics

I've built myself some tools to get very detailed statistics (I store in a database each and every downloads) and the only conclusion I can share is that it is IMHO impossible to get any useful information from all these data as there is a huge variability depending on the agency. There are too many parameters in the equation to solve it $:-\$

The only useful informations you will get are very broad trends which does not require such detailed statistics anyway.

My 2008 earning breakdown compared to 2007:

SHS 23% -1%
IS 23% -7%
StockXpert 20% -1%
FT 15% +6%
DT 12% +1%
BigStock 2% +0%
123 2% +0%
CRE 1% +0%

An interesting statistics I can share: the average earning per download (EL included) compared to 2007 and 2006:

	2008	2007	2006
SS	0.4	0.3	0.25
IS	1.2	0.75	0.5
StockXpert	0.95	1.0	1.1
FT	1.0	0.7	0.65
DT	1.1	0.9	0.75

While StockXpert was by far the best in 2006, this is the only agency which has a lower earning per download in 2008 (thanks to the subscription plan) while IS see a huge increase during the same period.

oboy · « **Reply #30 on:** January 04, 2009, 11:13 »

For December 2008:

Shutterstock = 31%
Big Stock Photo = 20%
Dreamstime = 18%
StockXpert = 14%
123RF = 6%
Featurepics = 5%
Scandinavian Stock Photo = 2%
Can Stock Photo = 2%
Fotolia = 1%
SnapVillage = 1%

My sale were down 37% compared to the previous month.

avava · « **Reply #31 on:** January 04, 2009, 13:35 »

Good Conversation,

I track my numbers for more or less one reason. I don't want to recreate the same shot that didn't sell before. A lot of people use them the other way and start producing gobs of their best sellers I think you might occasionally come back to a good idea but a diverse portfolio is important when the agencies are looking at what you can do. I don't want to take a photo twice that didn't sell the first time. But no cool grids for this old mule just excel sheets full of numbers and thumbnails to show when a shoot has paid for itself and what images where the strongest and which didn't sell at all.

Best,
AVAVA

stormchaser · « **Reply #32 on:** January 04, 2009, 14:12 »

For Dec 2008 BME everywhere except SS.

Reason for the slide at SS was due to getting busy with some commercial work, and last upload there was on Dec 10. Gotta feed the beast there. Still was not a bad month though.

Everyone have a Prosperous 2009

madelaide · « **Reply #33 on:** January 04, 2009, 15:42 »

My December and 2008 numbers, with 2007 for comparison:

Site	2007	2008	Jan	Feb	Mar	Apr	May	Jun	Jul	Aug	Sep	Oct	Nov	Dec
IS	26%	24%	22%	37%	26%	26%	23%	18%	26%	18%	21%	21%	20%	23%
DT	16%	20%	30%	16%	18%	22%	14%	26%	23%	17%	16%	17%	20%	27%
StockXpert	20%	20%	19%	12%	22%	21%	24%	13%	21%	22%	30%	25%	22%	10%
FT	13%	13%	8%	11%	16%	13%	13%	15%	10%	16%	13%	16%	13%	12%
BigStock	8%	7%	8%	5%	5%	3%	7%	9%	6%	6%	10%	6%	7%	10%
123	4%	6%	5%	8%	3%	4%	8%	11%	5%	5%	5%	4%	2%	9%
FP	3%	4%	2%	3%	4%	10%	3%	7%	7%	8%	2%	4%	2%	1%
CanStockPhoto	2%	<1%	1%	1%	1%	<1%	<1%	1%	1%	1%	<1%	<1%	<1%	1%
Scan	1%	1%	0%	<1%	1%	<1%	1%	<1%	0%	4%	0%	2%	0%	0%
CS	<1%	<1%	0%	0%	0%	~0%	1%	0%	1%	2%	1%	<1%	1%	3%
Zymm	<1%	2%	3%	5%	2%	0%	3%	0%	0%	0%	0%	3%	5%	4%
rest	3%	<1%	3%	1%	<1%	~0%	1%	0%	0%	1%	<1%	<1%	8%	0%

Overall 10% below November and my worst month in 2008. StockXpert was the biggest lost, with only 30% of November's earnings, the worst month in the past 2 years. FT dropped in 30%. DT was by best earner, performing better than in November, but still below the first semester. 123RF recovered the earnings level of some months ago, but is still only my 6th earner.

CanStockPhoto still with very low earnings, basically subs. Mostly subs as CS too, although there were credit sales this month. Nothing at Scanstock, Albumo and Imagevortex this month. One sale in Zymm. Fotomedia, SV and MicrostockPhoto dead for months, and still nothing at MP. I asked MicrostockPhoto to remove my portfolio, but they haven't done anything yet - it's time to contact them again.

Comparing 2008 with 2007, my earnings increased 16%, with all my main earners (IS, DT, StockXpert, FT, BigStock, 123RF and FP) increasing. DT was the highest (+43%) and BigStock was the lowest (+1%).

Regards,
Adelaide

flashon · « **Reply #34 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:47 »

goldenangel · « **Reply #35 on:** January 05, 2009, 17:54 »

madelaide, I noticed that you don't mention SS. Do you upload to SS?

madelaide · « **Reply #36 on:** January 05, 2009, 18:17 »

Correct, I don't submit to SS because it's subs only. I'm even avoiding uploading to sites in which subs prevail.

Regards,
Adelaide

goldenangel · « **Reply #37 on:** January 05, 2009, 18:54 »

Thanks Adelaide, I understand your position. My portfolio is small, and SS is a big part of my earnings, that is why I asked.
Obrigado,
Denis

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