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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 19:06 »
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What they are attempting to do is create a wholly owned agency collection, but without the hassle of having photographers on a payroll, etc..


« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2012, 10:15 »
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We wanted to reach out and say thank you for the valuable feedback - We're grateful to have the opportunity to be working with over 700 incredibly talented photographers.

To give a clearer understanding of Cavan Images - The value in what we offer is the opportunity to make money using your camera at any time.  Here is an example of how it could work for stock photographers like yourselves; You can do 2 shoots for your own collection and 1 for us.  If done well, the shoot you do with us in mind will pay for those 2 shoots you'll own. You are always in control of what you sell and what you don't
We encourage all of our photographers as they pursue their photography careers including their own stock photography. We encourage you to apply and see if it works for you.

We do understand where you're coming from, we're photographers ourselves. If you have any questions definitely reach out to us at newbielink:mailto:[email protected] [nonactive]

Thanks again for the feedback, we do appreciate it!

« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2012, 10:20 »
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I spend approximately 1 full day of work per image I produce, so this would be a terrible deal for me..

« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2012, 10:35 »
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If done well, the shoot you do with us in mind will pay for those 2 shoots you'll own.

Lol, the three shoots I do for myself pay for themselves, and then they pay for my mortgage, my car, my kids' college fund....

« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2012, 10:55 »
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... We do understand where you're coming from, we're photographers ourselves. ...
With all due respect, since you "understand where we're coming from" (and where all photographers are coming from for that matter), it's not rocket science to understand that you are in it for the money without having the expenses for a vast variety of photo shoots.

As Sean already stated, why would I want to sell out my images of a third shoot to pay for the two others if I can license them all myself?

« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2012, 13:41 »
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First off, $50 for an image, and a prohibition against using any unpurchased images from the shoot, is a great deal for them, but a terrible one for any contributor with the talent to make any money in microstock. 

Also, I think it would be unethical to do it unless you contacted each and every model you had a release from and asked their permission to transfer copyright of their image and personal information.  Just a wild guess, but I suspect most models would say "no way". 

i don't see how selling the rights to another agency is any different from selling one at a time on a microstock agency - the model hasnt 'agreed' to any of the coniditions those agencies might have.

there's a difference too, between copyright, which the photographer owns, and the rights a model releases when signing.   also, there's a difference between models who work for a shoot, and images of people taken in the real world where releases are signed

with all the variations, there's no 1 right or wrong, but none of these really approach 'ethical' considerations.

also, on their site cavan images has about 25% of their images with no people in them!

so i see no problem with what they're doing per se, but would need to have much better idea of what a 'shoot' is.  if i go to India for a month, is each temple I visit a shoot?  or is it each different person I photograph?  what are 'similars'?  are they the 6 differnent shots i take from one place [diff angles, horiz vs vertical, various zooms, etrc] or are they ALL the pix I take at that site on that day?

if an entire shoot of 100 has an rpi of $1  [well beyond reality for most of us], then selling just 2 images from that shoot and retiring the rest would give you a year's payoff in 1 day  in actuality i'd expect the RPI of a shoot [not the edited smaller selection that gets sent to agencies] would be much less - it's a calculation of net present value versus possible future returns - in other words, a business calculation


 

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