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This is a poll to find out what ages our different groups fall into. Just curious

60+ pro
60+ amature or hobbiest
50+ pro
50+ amature or hobbiest
40+ pro
40+ amature or hobbiest
30+ pro
30+ amature or hobbiest
20+ pro
20+ amature or hobbiest
Under 20....won't comment..lol

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« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2012, 16:29 »
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58 and Australian. I do not feel like it in the head but the body reminds me at times.


« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2012, 16:33 »
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It's so much harder to make them comfortable, relaxed. It's also a lot harder for then to connect with younger ppl, to keep conversation interesting for her, relaxed, make jokes. It's just so easy for me, it's the same generation, we have the same kind of jokes (sarcasm, dark humour, I can even get away with some profanity lol, imagine a 50 year old pulling stunts like that, she'd leave in a heart beat), the same interests etc.

How odd that you think that. I'm 50 but possibly have arrested development because I try to keep things absurdist and hilarious with my models, younger or older, and they keep coming back. I don't exactly watch my mouth either and nobody heads for the hills.

« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2012, 16:39 »
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It's so much harder to make them comfortable, relaxed. It's also a lot harder for then to connect with younger ppl, to keep conversation interesting for her, relaxed, make jokes. It's just so easy for me, it's the same generation, we have the same kind of jokes (sarcasm, dark humour, I can even get away with some profanity lol, imagine a 50 year old pulling stunts like that, she'd leave in a heart beat), the same interests etc.

How odd that you think that. I'm 50 but possibly have arrested development because I try to keep things absurdist and hilarious with my models, younger or older, and they keep coming back. I don't exactly watch my mouth either and nobody heads for the hills.

I'm with you, RapidEye.  I'm 57, and I was pleased to discover early in my studio work that I have pretty wonderful rapport with models of all ages.  In one of my recent shoots I told the model that a shot was terrible, and then kept telling her what she was doing was wrong and that she should stop.  The more I did it, the more I got mock outraged, the more she laughed and the more animated her expressions.  The pictures were fun, and she told me she liked shooting with me.  I of course felt the same way.

wut

« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2012, 16:40 »
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It's so much harder to make them comfortable, relaxed. It's also a lot harder for then to connect with younger ppl, to keep conversation interesting for her, relaxed, make jokes. It's just so easy for me, it's the same generation, we have the same kind of jokes (sarcasm, dark humour, I can even get away with some profanity lol, imagine a 50 year old pulling stunts like that, she'd leave in a heart beat), the same interests etc.

How odd that you think that. I'm 50 but possibly have arrested development because I try to keep things absurdist and hilarious with my models, younger or older, and they keep coming back. I don't exactly watch my mouth either and nobody heads for the hills.

Then you must be an exception to the rule ;)

« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2012, 16:45 »
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The reason why I expected ppl to be younger is not only there are virtually no photographers older than 50, since the boom of digital photography (the number of 50+ togs is probably the same, it just that so many younger ppl started doing it in the last 5-7 years) and also because you need more than just basic computer skills, which this group age usually lacks.

Truly, 50 is setting the bar pretty young. I did comp sci on a Univac mainframe, moved on to CP/M personal machines, jumped to the Apple II, did some coding on Commodore PETs and VIC 20s, then on to the first IBM PC clones, then to Macs, then to Amigas, then back to PCs and Macs and so on and so on. All this time I've been hammering the audio and imaging capabilities of those machines. So I feel a little devalued and despised if some kid thinks I'm an old man who can't possibly know anything useful.

An acquaintance of mine must be well over 60 now and he's produced a couple of impressive bits of tech in the past 20-odd years. Very few of my ageing friends need to take their computers to the shop if something goes wrong with them. Your stereotype has no legs in my world.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 16:57 by RapidEye »

rubyroo

« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2012, 16:57 »
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Don't let it get to you RapidEye.  You know what you know, and we were all young enough to throw around wild assumptions at some point.  As my Mum used to say "I've BEEN your age, but you haven't been mine yet".

There's also an old saying that "Every generation thinks they invented sex".  So true.

Just as another point of interest.  At university in the early 90's, our programming lecturer and head of programming was a retired engineer of about 62.   Our computer graphics lecturer was in his mid-50's.  So these guys are 80+ and 70+ respectively now.  
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 17:02 by rubyroo »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2012, 17:02 »
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I'm over 70 and only recently retired from racing motocross.  Earned my last trophy at 65 -- racing in the 40+ class.
Your only as old as the women you feel.   ;D ;D

Ooooops... hope that doesnt start another rape debate.   ::)

« Reply #107 on: January 01, 2012, 17:05 »
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being older has its advantages. I was asked to photograph a pole dancer teacher. I think she felt safer with someone as "old" as me. Anyway communication with models is probably easier as you get older.

« Reply #108 on: January 01, 2012, 17:14 »
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Don't let it get to you RapidEye.  You know what you know, and we were all young enough to throw around wild assumptions at some point.  As my Mum used to say "I've BEEN your age, but you haven't been mine yet".

There's also an old saying that "Every generation thinks they invented sex".  So true.

Just as another point of interest.  At university in the early 90's, our programming lecturer and head of programming was a retired engineer of about 62.   Our computer graphics lecturer was in his mid-50's.  So these guys are 80+ and 70+ respectively now.  

True, true, and there's me harrumphing like an old curmudgeon. Must be the scotch. Though actually I am starting to feel the need to defend older people against the wrong assumptions of the youth. It's a cultural investment in a possibly less exploited and despised old age.

« Reply #109 on: January 01, 2012, 17:26 »
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« Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 02:25 by RapidEye »

wut

« Reply #110 on: January 01, 2012, 17:32 »
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Don't let it get to you RapidEye.  You know what you know, and we were all young enough to throw around wild assumptions at some point.  As my Mum used to say "I've BEEN your age, but you haven't been mine yet".

There's also an old saying that "Every generation thinks they invented sex".  So true.

Just as another point of interest.  At university in the early 90's, our programming lecturer and head of programming was a retired engineer of about 62.   Our computer graphics lecturer was in his mid-50's.  So these guys are 80+ and 70+ respectively now.  

True, true, and there's me harrumphing like an old curmudgeon. Must be the scotch. Though actually I am starting to feel the need to defend older people against the wrong assumptions of the youth. It's a cultural investment in a possibly less exploited and despised old age.

I don't think there's right or wrong, just the circles, surroundings you're in. Examples you're naming surely exist where I live, but are rare. It seems like it can be easily the other way around, where ppl in the 60s and 70s have no problem with modern tech what so ever and some of you even make us in the 30s look bad (you being computer wizzards etc). I'm not that flexible either, I usually don't connect with older ppl, I don't have that ability.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #111 on: January 01, 2012, 17:39 »
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I'm not that flexible either, I usually don't connect with older ppl, I don't have that ability.
It's not a generation gap, it's an interest gap.
For example, I have no real, personal interest in looking at studio photos. If I do, it's purely academic ('what are people doing in studios nowadays?'). Therefore you and I would have little in common.
I enjoy looking at people photos but only if they're real or 'almost real', i.e. candid or at least semi-candid.
However, I get on fine with people of all ages who are interested in natural history, live or in photos.
We'd have nothing in common, but it's not a generation gap; and it doesn't make you or me a bad person.
 ;D

rubyroo

« Reply #112 on: January 01, 2012, 17:50 »
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True, true, and there's me harrumphing like an old curmudgeon. Must be the scotch. Though actually I am starting to feel the need to defend older people against the wrong assumptions of the youth. It's a cultural investment in a possibly less exploited and despised old age.

The cultural investment is an excellent idea.  There are many MANY younger people who are very open and interested in the experience and knowledge of older people, and who see each individual as a person with a story, rather than an 'age' - which, of course is a far more accurate way to view people.  I do worry that we've all been so 'bracketed' and brainwashed by marketing people that we forget this.

My partner learned to program at the age of 11 from his uncle, who was an inventor and electronics guy in his 50's then (back in 1980).  He always had the utmost respect and love for him, and knows very well that he would not have had the successful career he has if it hadn't been for him.   These days, he doesn't think of him as 'an old guy'.  He's just his brilliant uncle.

Sue's comments on 'interest gap' are very smart, I think.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #113 on: January 01, 2012, 17:53 »
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Sue's comments on 'interest gap' are very smart, I think.
There's a first time for everything.  :D

rubyroo

« Reply #114 on: January 01, 2012, 17:55 »
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 :D :D :D

Self-deprecation - the first sign of true (and not-boring) maturity!  ;D

wut

« Reply #115 on: January 01, 2012, 18:07 »
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I'm not that flexible either, I usually don't connect with older ppl, I don't have that ability.
It's not a generation gap, it's an interest gap.
For example, I have no real, personal interest in looking at studio photos. If I do, it's purely academic ('what are people doing in studios nowadays?'). Therefore you and I would have little in common.
I enjoy looking at people photos but only if they're real or 'almost real', i.e. candid or at least semi-candid.
However, I get on fine with people of all ages who are interested in natural history, live or in photos.
We'd have nothing in common, but it's not a generation gap; and it doesn't make you or me a bad person.
 ;D

OK I'm going to ask you this way: if you get to know new ppl, for instance at a photo workshop or on vacations, who do you usually get to know or get to know best? I guess it's someone your own age. Who are you more likely to start a conversation with, waiting in a queue or something, a lady your age or some 19 year old girl?

That being said, of course it makes no one a bad person, I was saying this all along ;) . I know some things were misunderstood, but that always happens with a larger group of ppl. Well at least if you're not trying to say what everybody wants to hear all the time and try very hard to get on the good side of everyone. But being so fake, really doesn't help anyone in this forum (or any other), the point is the exchange of opinions, different or not.

And it's nice to hear seniors/mature togs get so great along with shooting (young) models. I tried it with older ppl once (besides my grandparents), when I was assisting a stock videographer and I was able to grab some shots of a couple in their late 60s/early 70s and their "grandkids". Didn't go to well as well, although they did some modeling before, they really could make the expressions I wanted, then I asked him to give his 4 year old skinny grandson a piggyback ride, he couldn't because of his bad back etc. I know I could make good shoots if I'd taken into account all the limitations, which I didn't (because I didn't really have a shoot and never really worked on a shoot with seniors), so I got back home empty handed. Luckily, seniors are so over supplied lately, you can't sell much, it's not an under-suplied segment, like it was years ago. These last 2 years everybody has been shooting seniors regularly, I know quite a few diamonds, photo&video. And it's always the same, seniors at a seminar, seniors with grandkids, seniors with smart phones/tablets etc. Oh no wait, I did make a few great shots with a woman in her 70s! I almost forgot that. She has some kind of mental illness, can't talk clearly etc, she's totally messed up, but very interesting at the same time and she could come up with a couple of interesting face expressions (knowingly or not, I'm not sure, but it came out great and I only made a dozen shots or so). I forgot to add, a friend of mine knows her, she from the block he works at and is always around, everybody knows her etc. I didn't harass her or anything (take "advantage" of her - it looks like I have to watch what I'm saying here, there was a long debate over rape in one of the threads:)

wut

« Reply #116 on: January 01, 2012, 18:23 »
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BTW, I think some of you're exaggerating. You're naming exceptions as what an average 60 or 70 year old can do and does do. It's like saying 70 year olds run the marathon. Sure they do, but it's 1 out of 100k, not 1 of 100 like someone aged 30. It's not really like that with computer skills etc, but still the ratio between 30 and 70 year old ppl for which using the computer really is second nature is more 10:1 if not 30+:1. This msg board might be an exception, but usually the average age is somewhere between 20-40 on various web sites (forums, web galleries), not to mention social newtworks etc. And why do you think they say traditional newspapers will die with the old generation? ;)


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #117 on: January 01, 2012, 18:26 »
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OK I'm going to ask you this way: if you get to know new ppl, for instance at a photo workshop or on vacations, who do you usually get to know or get to know best? I guess it's someone your own age. Who are you more likely to start a conversation with, waiting in a queue or something, a lady your age or some 19 year old girl?
At the photojournalism course, the first person I chatted to, and the only one I've kept in touch with, was a young woman in her 20s.
It would depend on the queue, no doubt, but at the Fringe or some event, I just chat to whoever's near me in the queue - because it's a common interest.
I do admit, if I'm driving and get lost, I tend to look for a woman to ask for directions. Age not so relevant.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #118 on: January 01, 2012, 18:34 »
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not to mention social newtworks etc.
Ah, there you have me.
I know I haven't to say, "What's the POINT of Twitter?"
Facebook I can see some vague point of, but I'd rather use old fashioned websites and email.
Even blogs, I'm not wild on, as I don't like their back-to-front nature. However I'm definitely a 'bricks up' learner: so that's not an age thing, it's a learning-style-preference thing.

« Reply #119 on: January 01, 2012, 18:36 »
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BTW, I think some of you're exaggerating. You're naming exceptions as what an average 60 or 70 year old can do and does do. It's like saying 70 year olds run the marathon. Sure they do, but it's 1 out of 100k, not 1 of 100 like someone aged 30. It's not really like that with computer skills etc, but still the ratio between 30 and 70 year old ppl for which using the computer really is second nature is more 10:1 if not 30+:1. This msg board might be an exception, but usually the average age is somewhere between 20-40 on various web sites (forums, web galleries), not to mention social newtworks etc. And why do you think they say traditional newspapers will die with the old generation? ;)


Funny you would mention that.  My dad is one of those 1 out of 100,000.   ;D  He turns 80 next month and continues to win national championships in his age group at different distances, including the half marathon.  Proud of my daddy!

 

wut

« Reply #120 on: January 01, 2012, 18:45 »
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Funny you would mention that.  My dad is one of those 1 out of 100,000.   ;D  He turns 80 next month and continues to win national championships in his age group at different distances, including the half marathon.  Proud of my daddy!

 


Wow, I really admire seniors that can achieve such incredible things. I once shot a marathon and most of my subjects were seniors. And you should be proud of him! ;)

wut

« Reply #121 on: January 01, 2012, 18:48 »
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OK I'm going to ask you this way: if you get to know new ppl, for instance at a photo workshop or on vacations, who do you usually get to know or get to know best? I guess it's someone your own age. Who are you more likely to start a conversation with, waiting in a queue or something, a lady your age or some 19 year old girl?
At the photojournalism course, the first person I chatted to, and the only one I've kept in touch with, was a young woman in her 20s.
It would depend on the queue, no doubt, but at the Fringe or some event, I just chat to whoever's near me in the queue - because it's a common interest.
I do admit, if I'm driving and get lost, I tend to look for a woman to ask for directions. Age not so relevant.

Wow, you talked to the only person younger than you :D .

Just so that I won't get a needless personal attack by someone, who doesn't know why I said that - ShadySue said a few posts back she was the second youngest at 56 ;)

lisafx

« Reply #122 on: January 01, 2012, 18:52 »
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@Pheby: "Whatever a spare fag is..." - I suggest you never ask this on an American street.  ;D



 :D

^^ What an awesome photo!!  You just made my and my family's day :D

wut

« Reply #123 on: January 01, 2012, 18:52 »
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not to mention social newtworks etc.
Ah, there you have me.
I know I haven't to say, "What's the POINT of Twitter?"
Facebook I can see some vague point of, but I'd rather use old fashioned websites and email.
Even blogs, I'm not wild on, as I don't like their back-to-front nature. However I'm definitely a 'bricks up' learner: so that's not an age thing, it's a learning-style-preference thing.

R u sure? ;)

I mean you really can't be, since you can't possibly know how you'd look at things if you were half or a third your age. If such things existed 30+ years ago, you could state it as a fact (because of your past experience, just as you can't say, I don't like carnivals, never have. Because I hate midgets, or something :D )
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 18:55 by wut »

wut

« Reply #124 on: January 01, 2012, 18:53 »
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@Pheby: "Whatever a spare fag is..." - I suggest you never ask this on an American street.  ;D



 :D

^^ What an awesome photo!!  You just made my and my family's day :D

Indeed, I'm lmao-ing ;D


 

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