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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: melastmohican on July 07, 2009, 16:30

Title: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: melastmohican on July 07, 2009, 16:30
Why customer have to pay whopping 25 cents for an image if they can only specify pixels they need? Would 5 cents per million pixels be right price?
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: puravida on July 07, 2009, 16:39
mela rofl, did you get the idea of this thread after reading Geopappas comment to david of Pixamba?
cute !
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: Lcjtripod on July 07, 2009, 16:53
Why customer have to pay whopping 25 cents for an image if they can only specify pixels they need? Would 5 cents per million pixels be right price?

Would they get 2 1/2 cents change if they only need a half million pixels? ;D

-Larry
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: Adeptris on July 07, 2009, 16:53
Why customer have to pay whopping 25 cents for an image if they can only specify pixels they need? Would 5 cents per million pixels be right price?
Customers are not purchasing pixels, but a licence to use your asset, they are paying for the assets content,  the funny thing here is that microstock needs high volumes to trade, most the customers need a volume of small assets, so to maximize profits there is a need for large volumes of small assets to be sold, all the debate about larger assets relates to a very small part of the business.

The customer will take a larger file than they really need if they can get it, but they are not likely to use the larger size, some customers will use all their subscription credits if they are going to expire, and never use the files.

The volume of downloads for small assets are what drives microstock, as artists we should be concentrating and protecting the artists commission on the core of the business small and medium assets, so 5 cents for a small image is a no go, and any new agencies cutting prices for credits and prices for small or medium assets below the mainstream stocksites should also be a no go.

Large assets do not damage the microstock industry, cheaper small and medium assets do the damage.

David    
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: PixelBytes on July 07, 2009, 17:07
Brilliant.  Buying images by the pixel is like buying a painting by the number of brush strokes or buying dinner according to the number of ingredients used.

If that idea ever gets traction it is really time to get a job at Wal Mart  ::)
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: disorderly on July 07, 2009, 18:04
Reminds me of an old joke.  A guy has a leaky pipe in his house, so he calls a plumber.  The plumber puts his ear to the pipe for a few seconds, then takes a mallet and bangs the pipe a couple of times.  The leak stops.  He presents the homeowner with a bill for $75.

The homeowner is incensed!  "$75!  How can you charge $75?  You were only here for five minutes!  All you did was bang on the pipe!  I want an itemized bill.  I want to see how you justify $75 for five minutes work."

So the plumber writes him an itemized bill:  "Banging on the pipe: $5.  Knowing where to bang: $70."

By the pixels treats those pixels as commodities.  They aren't.  The picture as a whole may or may not be a commodity, but it is more than the sum of its pixels.  Or should all software cost the same, since it's all the same ones and zeroes?
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: puravida on July 07, 2009, 18:11
Reminds me of an old joke.  A guy has a leaky pipe in his house, so he calls a plumber.  The plumber puts his ear to the pipe for a few seconds, then takes a mallet and bangs the pipe a couple of times.  The leak stops.  He presents the homeowner with a bill for $75.

The homeowner is incensed!  "$75!  How can you charge $75?  You were only here for five minutes!  All you did was bang on the pipe!  I want an itemized bill.  I want to see how you justify $75 for five minutes work."

So the plumber writes him an itemized bill:  "Banging on the pipe: $5.  Knowing where to bang: $70."

By the pixels treats those pixels as commodities.  They aren't.  The picture as a whole may or may not be a commodity, but it is more than the sum of its pixels.  Or should all software cost the same, since it's all the same ones and zeroes?

rofl, good one disorderly.
btw are those girls in your new avatar topless? it's too small for me to see !
Title: Re: How to undercut the competition even more?
Post by: lurkertwo on July 07, 2009, 18:45
By the pixels treats those pixels as commodities.  They aren't.  The picture as a whole may or may not be a commodity, but it is more than the sum of its pixels.  Or should all software cost the same, since it's all the same ones and zeroes?

This is a very neglected idea and totally right. Size has been over-emphasized too much. The concept of the image and the looks are the "where to bang" and should carry a flat creativity fee. A size fee can then be added as an extra. Looking at the Pixamba size/credits discussion, it boils down to this line of thought. A given good picture is not worth double if the number of pixels is doubled. The relation is non-linear.