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Title: How was your November?
Post by: Giveme5 on November 30, 2016, 20:37
68 months in this business and a BME for me this November! The 'Wall' is near so I have to finding ways to keep pushing it back... :)


Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Artist on November 30, 2016, 22:19
68 months in this business and a BME for me this November! The 'Wall' is near so I have to finding ways to keep pushing it back... :)

very good, very happy with November. both SS and Ft rocks :)
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Minsc on December 01, 2016, 01:01
BME on FT & 123RF.

Thought FT was going to surpass SS this month, but SS pull it out in the last few hours and beat FT by $3 dollars.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Microstockphoto on December 01, 2016, 01:01
worst november in years, earnings going down fast now. very unmotivating
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: PixelBytes on December 01, 2016, 01:10
worst november in years, earnings going down fast now. very unmotivating

Yep.  Worst since first couple of years in the business.  Since some are reporting great sales it is probably search engine related.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Microstockphoto on December 01, 2016, 01:27
for me its across the board tbf, not sure what is going on
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Minsc on December 01, 2016, 01:29
Yep.  Worst since first couple of years in the business.  Since some are reporting great sales it is probably search engine related.

The search engine change at SS did a lot of harm actually. The last 8 days were lousy at best. Here's to hoping SS fix it before it gets worse.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Chichikov on December 01, 2016, 01:57
Cold and wet, like any November here…
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: 50% on December 01, 2016, 02:46
Down 20% from last year
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: salparadis on December 01, 2016, 03:06
Actually one of the best months, mainly because of Adobe/Fotolia, Shutterstock is falling down. I suspect, buyers are shifting towards Adobe. Shutterstock is still first for me, but less sales than the last year. Sales on Fotolia have tripled.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: alexzappa on December 01, 2016, 03:25
Best November ever!!!

Maybe because I started microstock in July 2016  :D ;)
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: 50% on December 01, 2016, 03:28
Best November ever!!!

Maybe because I started microstock in July 2016  :D ;)
lol probably
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: alexzappa on December 01, 2016, 03:47
Best November ever!!!

Maybe because I started microstock in July 2016  :D ;)
lol probably

by the way it was good in terms of downloads number: +50% vs October and +300% vs September without adding many new images

but no video sales and no extended/SOD so revenue were not so much
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Lana on December 01, 2016, 04:55
My SS earnings dropped bad in the second half of November especially this last week - I'm punished for not uploading much in the last few months, new stuff is selling well now and I have very little to offer :) My bad
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: AnTiImAgeX on December 01, 2016, 04:56
Hi guys,

Im not familiar with abbreviation, I want to know what BME stand for ?
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Lana on December 01, 2016, 05:10
Hi guys,

Im not familiar with abbreviation, I want to know what BME stand for ?

BME - best month ever
WME - worst month ever
BMY - best month of the year
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on December 01, 2016, 05:19
SS about the same as last year with much more work uploaded
FL up
123RF up
DT up
CanS down

Smaller sites mostly down.

Overall almost the same to the cent as last November. Bear in mind I do this full time and upload a lot.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Brasilnut on December 01, 2016, 05:43
I should be earning more for the quality i'm uploading...
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: increasingdifficulty on December 01, 2016, 06:07
For music - October was my BME (since 2012).

For footage/images - November was BME (since 2014).
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Bauman on December 01, 2016, 06:11
Average month but best Rpd ever ... (6 years).

+6% earnings vs Nov '15

For the first time in 6 years Shutterstock is under 50% of my total earnings (48,30%).

Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: increasingdifficulty on December 01, 2016, 06:19
Shutterstock: 22% of my earnings but I sell mostly footage, not so many images.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Pauws99 on December 01, 2016, 06:21
I should be earning more for the quality i'm uploading...
Shouldn't we all....seriously though if you are happy that you work is top quality technically and aesthetically  then you may need to address subject matter and key wording or possibly sites outlets that may suit your work better.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: increasingdifficulty on December 01, 2016, 06:35
Yes, the search engines rule first and foremost (on the big sites anyway), not quality, that is secondary.

On a huge site like Pond5 it doesn't matter if you upload the best New York time lapse the world has ever seen since there are hundreds of clips with hundreds of sales that will show up before you in search no matter what you do.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Pauws99 on December 01, 2016, 06:40
Yes, the search engines rule first and foremost (on the big sites anyway), not quality, that is secondary.

On a huge site like Pond5 it doesn't matter if you upload the best New York time lapse the world has ever seen since there are hundreds of clips with hundreds of sales that will show up before you in search no matter what you do.
Yes as in the end most buyers want "good enough" not "best ever"
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Brasilnut on December 01, 2016, 07:50
Quote
Shouldn't we all....seriously though if you are happy that you work is top quality technically and aesthetically  then you may need to address subject matter and key wording or possibly sites outlets that may suit your work better.

Absolutely, I'm on my way out of microstock and going for boutique midstock agencies. I think there's something seriously broken with the RF model from the photographer point of view.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: eyewave on December 01, 2016, 07:53
SS further slightly down, even from the worst October in years
FT slightly better, but still far from BME
DT well above average
123 slightly above average
Alamy 3rd BME
istock can't really get worse, lowest number of regular downloads in 7 years
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: mojaric on December 01, 2016, 08:08
i think that the search engine switches old and new good-sellers through the year hence someone is performing better and someother not in the same period ... maybe those who said that was WME in 2 month will have back normal sales...but it's just suggestions.... :-X
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on December 01, 2016, 08:19
WMY.  Almost identical to Nov. last year.  Would have been much worse if it wasn't for high-value SODs from SS.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: akaza on December 01, 2016, 08:24
November was so gooddd :)
but December and January must be low sales because of holiday :(
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: HalfFull on December 01, 2016, 08:30
FT, SS & 123 all had BME.

SS is catching FT which is a little surprising. FT has been losing a little ground over the last couple of weeks or more. Probably SS improving their search and FT taking the foot off the gas. Either way, SS closing that gap quickly now but, all in all, they all performed really well this month!
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: enstoker on December 01, 2016, 08:54
Best November ever!!!

Maybe because I started microstock in July 2016  :D ;)

BPE

Best post ever !
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: mojaric on December 01, 2016, 09:46
usually who writes BME lately is just because he/she has 300/400 pics and 15$ per month :D
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: LouisPhotos on December 01, 2016, 10:27
Best November ever!!! one of my best month ever !
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Giveme5 on December 01, 2016, 10:35
usually who writes BME lately is just because he/she has 300/400 pics and 15$ per month :D

I only have 4,400 images on SS and well over 5,000 plus images on 20 other companies. So far I have made $3,500 for November plus whatever iStock comes in with the subs, GI, and pp- usually from $200 to $500 extra thus could hit only $4,000.    :)


Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Pixart on December 01, 2016, 10:41
Gulp.  I didn't really keep good records in 2006 but since 2007 this was my WNE  (Worst NOVEMBER ever). 
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Zero Talent on December 01, 2016, 11:25
Not bad at all.
Possibly the second best month ever, once November PP sales will be accounted for.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: spike on December 01, 2016, 11:54
-15% compared to Nov 2015

And I increased my portfolio by 40%.
These aren't small fluctuations - my portfolio has 5 digits.

Still waiting on PP and other stuff from iStock to compare to Oct 16, but if I assume similar PP results, -5% compared to previous month.

Given that I added so much assets in the previous months and that my earnings are dropping is worrying. Either I'm doing something wrong, or the agencies are. I'm sure the quality of my work could be improved - that's always the case - the point is, I didn't have to aim for super-high quality before, and now it seems like it's necessary. Or maybe even the "best ever" assets wouldn't help, and it's just luck in regards to the search engine. Dunno.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: gyllens on December 01, 2016, 12:31
great November! especially from the RM/RF agencies. SS was very good! funny but last say six months the final result have only differed by a few dollars. It seems our monthly income is pretty much decided beforehand.
Adobe/FT prioducing steady results. DT was also beginning to show some life. :)
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: increasingdifficulty on December 01, 2016, 12:44
usually who writes BME lately is just because he/she has 300/400 pics and 15$ per month :D

...or that they work hard on every aspect of stock (new opportunities, SEO, subject, quality etc.) and continue to improve.  ;)
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: HalfFull on December 01, 2016, 13:41
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Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Pauws99 on December 01, 2016, 15:29
usually who writes BME lately is just because he/she has 300/400 pics and 15$ per month :D
Usually people who make statements such as this have zero evidence to base it on
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: cascoly on December 01, 2016, 15:37
very good Nov - 5th BME

up 33% from 2014
3 mo average (sep-nov) up 40% from 2 yrs ago

first month with a substantial FT port online (increased from 5000 to 10000 as I upl earlier images)
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Microstockphoto on December 01, 2016, 17:10
love these impressive looking graphs with the figures cropped. but what we dont see

Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Zero Talent on December 01, 2016, 18:22
love these impressive looking graphs with the figures cropped. but what we dont see

Ha, Ha! Good one! I like it!
But I can only assure you that all these bars are inside the 4 $digits zone!
Fell free to figure out the right scale!  ;D
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: dbvirago on December 01, 2016, 20:08
Very good at 123 and Fotolia, Very bad at SS. Average everywhere else
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: CrFx on December 02, 2016, 01:15
amazing sale at november
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Thomas from France on December 02, 2016, 01:18
amazing sale at november
A big one ?
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: mboy on December 02, 2016, 02:24
Good at SS
bad at DT and istock
average in Fotolia
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: PixelBytes on December 02, 2016, 08:45
Amazingly good at FT.  They have passed istock by and almost even with SS. Good news because it will make up some of the loss of income when I quit istock.   123, for me,  took a dump.  My normal sales there are around  $400/month.   This just over $100. 

Overall bad trend tho.  First Nov ever that was lower than October,  and almost 20% down on last Nov.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: etudiante_rapide on December 02, 2016, 09:41
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Artist on December 02, 2016, 10:09
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Giveme5 on December 02, 2016, 10:13
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing

You actually take etudiante_rapide for real  ;D 

Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Artist on December 02, 2016, 11:17
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing

You actually take etudiante_rapide for real  ;D

Oh got it. Thats something with the recent ss bug lol.
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: etudiante_rapide on December 02, 2016, 19:47
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing

You actually take etudiante_rapide for real  ;D

Oh got it. Thats something with the recent ss bug lol.

ya, and i had to return my spiffy sportscar that i bought with the 11k i earned that day as a down-payment... boo hoo !!! :'(
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: Giveme5 on December 02, 2016, 20:32
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing

You actually take etudiante_rapide for real  ;D

Oh got it. Thats something with the recent ss bug lol.

ya, and i had to return my spiffy sportscar that i bought with the 11k i earned that day as a down-payment... boo hoo !!! :'(

I would have taken that sports car to the race track for that one day and burn a ton of rubber off the tires before returning it the dealership  :)



Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: PixelBytes on December 03, 2016, 23:51
mine was the best ever ever .. $11k  ;D ;D ;D
until they quietly admit it was a scr*wup as usual...
 and went back to 50% shortfall for all-time november.

wow, congrats, did you achieved $11k in a month? thats really amazing

You actually take etudiante_rapide for real  ;D

Oh got it. Thats something with the recent ss bug lol.

ya, and i had to return my spiffy sportscar that i bought with the 11k i earned that day as a down-payment... boo hoo !!! :'(

I'm glad they didn't make an 11k mistake on me.  My family would of found me slumped over the keyboard dead from a heart attack!   :o
Title: Re: How was your November?
Post by: YadaYadaYada on December 04, 2016, 23:20
68 months in this business and a BME for me this November! The 'Wall' is near so I have to finding ways to keep pushing it back... :)

Don't worry the wall will find you just like the rest of us.

FT is looking up. Alamy is changing how they work even at the point of being 10% of what they were 10 years ago. SS holds their own with the best income. IS will continue to drop while claiming profit and exciting news. The rest hold or slide with no hope of any future for realists.

Take the profits while you can, don't expect endless growth and income. More then one has come here with their answer and success, only to find that no body can escape the enviable. Don't quit your day job. Don't spend based on projected future income.

Nov is good for the overall current state of Micro.