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Title: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: leaf on November 01, 2009, 06:11
So how do you feel it went in October.

For me Shutterstock  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.shutterstock.com)and Fotolia  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.fotolia.com)are really leading the pack and improving.  Sales are slightly down from last month but still higher than the rest of the year.  Dreamstime (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.dreamstime.com), StockXpert  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.stockxpert.com)and iStock  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.istock.com)are all close 3,4,5 place finishers and Panthermedia  (http://www.microstockgroup.com/link/go.php?url=www.panthermedia.com)was not far behind.  So well done to Panther.

Also, don't forget to vote in the site polls
http://www.microstockgroup.com/pollsvote/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/pollsvote/)

Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: MicrostockExp on November 01, 2009, 06:14
2nd BME for me with IS first, SS second and FT third.
Special mention to Panthermedia with which I had my BME:)
More details on my blog: http://microstockexperiment.blogspot.com/ (http://microstockexperiment.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: leaf on November 01, 2009, 06:17
It will be interesting to see how PantherMedia does this coming year.  They sure seem to be improving quite a bit.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: nicemonkey on November 01, 2009, 06:18
Very similar finding to me except that Veer has jumped into fifth place and Graphicleftovers (http://graphicleftovers.com/ref=nicemonkey/) showing strongly as well.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: gostwyck on November 01, 2009, 06:56
BME by quite some margin and an increase of more than 26% over Oct 2008. Here's the breakdown percentage (with Oct 2008).

IS    36.3 (32) - BME
SS   21.8 (27.2)
FT   21.5 (18.4) - BME
DT   9.7  (14)
SX   6.1  (6) - BME
Rodeo  2.6 (n/a) - BME
BS    1.9 (2.6)

My graph suggests some significant movements amongst the fortunes of several agencies.

FT has been growing at an astonishing rate and for most of the month was looking to take 2nd place from SS for the first time. They were pipped into 3rd place by just a few $'s on the final day with an EL on SS. Say what you like about the mgt's communication skills but they do seem to know how to build a business and shift product.

IS still solid as a rock. The BME is despite having had over 100 files deactivated under the new stricter rules which included several best selling images.

DT appear to be steadily losing market share to the others. I'm down about 20% from their peak in April, probably not helped by the reduction in commission. They've dropped below 10% for the first time in nearly 5 years and are now so far behind the 'Top 3' that I'd have to consider them a 2nd tier agency.

Strong showing from Rodeo too. Only 5 sales but still enough for them to comfortably beat BigStock and enter the 'Big 6' for the first time.

BigStock still very disappointing. No sign yet of any impact from SS but I guess it is early days.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: cybernesco on November 01, 2009, 07:30
My last BME was in June 2009. However, my Oct 09 total revenue has increased 23% over Oct 08. Considering that for the last 12 months I averaged only 23 uploaded images a month, this is quite reasonable.  

Oct 09 breakdown:

IS 31%
SS 17.3%
FT 14.6%
SX 10.9%
DT 9.4%
Alamy 9.1%
BS 2.2%
Featurepics 1.9%
123r 1.3%
CanStock 0.2%
Crestock 0.2%

Denis
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Perry on November 01, 2009, 07:34
Total earnings: BME, only slightly above september BME earnings.

1. IS BME. Very strong, over double the earnings from the next (SS)

2. SS BME. Helped by more ELs than usual.

3. Fotolia Solid month, not quite BME but almost.

4. DT Still getting weaker...weaker...weaker...last time DT was this weak was december 2007 (portfolio size over doubled since then)

5. SX a better month, rising a bit from the summer lows Still pretty weak compared to some earlier levels. This is the first time SX is actually quite close to DT
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Anyka on November 01, 2009, 07:43
Great month.  Fotolia broke all records and pushed IS off its 2nd place.  Now it's Shutterstock, Fotolia, Istock, and Dreamstime slowing down more and more. 

No idea what's wrong with Dreamstime.  I started with Fotolia and Dreamstime on the same day, and after 2,5 years I have the same number of images with both sites.  Fotolia however beats Dreamstime's sales with more than 50% every month.

Shutterstock wasn't bad, but it stopped growing.  If the On Demands really stop in November, Fotolia can try and grab first place! 
Bigstock did so bad, it's not even worth talking about.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Lcjtripod on November 01, 2009, 08:29
BigStock outsold all other sites combined. Best month of the last seven months. SS is having an impact in my opinion.

-Larry
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: PixelsAway on November 01, 2009, 08:45
several BMEs

IS + SS + DT = 80% of earnings (with IS providing more > 40%)

no changes in BigStock performance

more detailed earnings report in Pixels Away (http://microstock.pixelsaway.com/microstock-photography-earnings-october-2009/) blog
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: ThomasAmby on November 01, 2009, 08:52
BME by far. iStockPhoto beat Shutterstock for the first time, and is now my no. 1 earner. Graphic Leftovers has performed incredibly well for me (a few dollars away from beating DT and StockXpert), and so did ClipartOf this month. BME at Fotolia as well. All things considered, a great month.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Jonathan Ross on November 01, 2009, 13:03
Hi All,

 This may be off topic but all of our Macro RF collections grew at a healthy rate last month. A much better growth margin than Micro for me. Micro still showed the best month I have had there but not as big a growth compared to my RF Macro. RM Macro was also way up.

Best,
Jonathan
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: elvinstar on November 01, 2009, 13:19
Second BME for me (only missed BME by $2.21)
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: devon on November 01, 2009, 13:42
Total sales same as last month.
But DT still weaker, DT sales down 43% since Fed 2009. Fotolia beats Dreamstime's sales with more than 45%.

IS
SS       
FL     
DT       
SX       
BS       
123RF     
CS       
FP       
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: takestock on November 01, 2009, 13:45
A BME for me at DT and a really good month also at SS.
Others as per normal or less.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Kngkyle on November 01, 2009, 13:49
IS - 26%
FT - 21%
CanStockPhoto - 20% - awesome month. love those $20 fotosearch sales
SS - 12%
StockXpert - 9%
DT - 5% - way way way way way down, used to be #1
123 - 4%
CS - 2%
BigStock - 1%

This has been the first full month that I have had 12 of my most popular files on Fotolia exclusive. It was really a no brainer cause these 12 files don't particularly sell great on the other sites. But anyway, Fotolia is up 21% over last month because of this. When one of these 12 files sell I get 3x as much as I used to.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on November 01, 2009, 13:59
Hi All,

 This may be off topic but all of our Macro RF collections grew at a healthy rate last month. A much better growth margin than Micro for me. Micro still showed the best month I have had there but not as big a growth compared to my RF Macro. RM Macro was also way up.

Best,
Jonathan

I think very relevant, thanks,

Peter
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: ShadySue on November 01, 2009, 15:53
BMY at iStock, but waaaaay below last Oct/Nov.
Still nada at AlamyRM.
 :'(
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: lisafx on November 01, 2009, 16:48
This month was BME in $, but only just barely.  I was up 3% in royalties but down 2% in downloads.

ISP   42%
SS   15%
DT   11%
Fot   17%
BigStock   3%
StXp   6%
123   2%
CanStockPhoto   2%
Crest   1%
Almy   1%

   
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: madelaide on November 01, 2009, 17:01
I had almost the same as last month - difference in cents.  IS slightly up, FT slightly down DT up, StockXpert down.  1213RF almost dead: just one subs sale.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on November 01, 2009, 17:21
Worst month ever at DT. $38.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: elvinstar on November 01, 2009, 18:14
Quote
Worst month ever at DT. $38.

Wow! Here I thought that my worst month ever at Canstock ($0.50) was bad, but you've got me beat!
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: corepics on November 01, 2009, 18:30
Hi All,

 This may be off topic but all of our Macro RF collections grew at a healthy rate last month. A much better growth margin than Micro for me. Micro still showed the best month I have had there but not as big a growth compared to my RF Macro. RM Macro was also way up.

Best,
Jonathan

I think very relevant, thanks,

Peter

Very interesting indeed. Shooting primarily assigned work, I noticed a similar trend - Both off-agent RM and assigned work showed a significant growth. Micro also was pretty good this month, but that was primarily due to EL's on sites that don't usually perform well for me. The top tier did show a shuffle, but in total showed only marginal growth.

To my business, it seems the initial crisis-panic has subdued, and the bigger multinationals are again willing to spend, again. Only good news!
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: KB on November 01, 2009, 19:05
A slightly above average month for me.

IS - 40% (third-best month ever)
SS - 25% (second-best month ever)
FT - 12% ($0.61 RPD very poor, though)
DT - 10% (WMY)
StockXpert - 8%
BigStock - 4%
123 - 2% (WMY; in fact, worst since Dec '08)
VMP, 3DS - 0%  >:(


Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: chasmcn on November 01, 2009, 19:12
well SS impressed me only been accepted for 3 weeks and 83 dls off 60 images not bad so my BME ,

fotoila come out 2nd then 123rf ,DT ,BigStock, fotoila took  2nd after having a bad sept  were 123rf easily beat them ,only 1 dl seprating them from 123rf for oct but 123rf brought in more cash with better priced down loads .

i have more images on 123rf funny how the ones rejected by the others turn out best sellers on that site,just a something i noticed .
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: rene on November 02, 2009, 01:02
Average month in $
IS - 45%
SS - 21%
FT - 20%
DT - 8% (WMY - RDP less than 1$)
StockXpert - 6% (I opted out sub)
BigStock - 0,3% (almost dead)
Alamy RF - 0% (for the first time this year, very sad)

Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: Oldhand on November 02, 2009, 05:00
Hi there

Conistent rise across the board, with exception of IS - static again.

To tie in with Jonathans comments - unusually I made over $650 at Alamy last month. I am as sure as I can be it's been helped by recaptioning my portfolio, which I did a couple of months ago. I edited it very tightly, giving me a much higher score than the average alamy contributor on the ratio of views and zooms etc. Could also be that people are spending again and having pics on the first pages has led to sales.

Editorial usage in the UK - pretty hopeless, but no cause for panic yet.

Oversea sales through agents - on the rise thank goodness.

Overall - pretty encouraging if I keep putting the hours in!

Rgds

Oldhand
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: PowerDroid on November 02, 2009, 07:04
I was getting alarmed in the middle of the month, but the last week turned out to be my BWE, and ended up making October my BME.  Most encouraging... my RPI for October turned out to be the same as the past several months.  I've been at this for a year, so I've been watching RPI like a hawk, fearing it will drop, but it has yet to happen.  Knock on wood!
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: mwp1969 on November 02, 2009, 19:06
Strong October across top 5

#1 SS
(close to BME)

#2 IS  
(close to BME)

#3 DT
(BME for # of Sales  :) but RPD is almost 1/2 of prior BME month ... lots of subscription sales  :-\ )

#4 FT
(Strong portfolio growth and growing sales)

#5 BigStock
(Nice RPDs here)

-Mark
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: eppic on November 02, 2009, 19:30
Istock was a BME for me.  DT is on a down-ward slide (but fair enough, I haven't submitted much there over the past few months).  Veer though is beginning to build some momentum:

IS-     76%
SS-    12.4%
DT-    5.4%
Veer- 3.3%
BigStock-  2.4%

Got a few sales from Fotolia as well, where I only began submitting in the middle of October.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: davey_rocket on November 02, 2009, 20:48
I've got a minute portfolio (~220 images) but I had my first month of total earnings over $100.  Again this may be bupkis to many, but I'm stoked.

Since I stopped uploading pictures and started with vectors my earnings have gone from increasing linearly to what appears to be exponential, I'm sure that will level off soon but I smile every time I look at it :D
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: fotografer on November 03, 2009, 02:08
DT is down in Dls but with an RPD of over 2$ last month it has made up for it a bit. Seems to  be a very high percentage of  credit sales from the higher ranking images.
Fotolia has broken all records.  :D
Ss is making about half what it used to as new images just don't take off in the same way they used to so old ones are still strong but very little that I have uploaded in the last year has sold very well.
Istock good but not BME
123 down
BS and StockXpert about the same.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: FD on November 03, 2009, 05:25
Largest disapointment: Dreamstime WMY despite 30% port increase. Too many max size sub downloads. Action: only upload downsized 21MP>4MP. Since only level 2+ images make money on DT, stop new uploads and just cash in.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: borg on November 03, 2009, 13:03
+72 % more than in September...

Very good on DT, IS and Canstock....

No changes on BigStock, still low!
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: melastmohican on November 03, 2009, 14:29
Overall 3rd best month ever so maybe bad days are over. I am glad that SS now only 50% of my total earnings. Top 5 would be the same if I would not have one large sale on CanStockPhoto. DT slowly growing to pass StockXpert. FT is steady but surprisingly followed very closly by IS which got BME. I do not know what can I do improve IS performance.

Code: [Select]
Oct Oct/Sep
SS 48.89% 107.69%
CanStockPhoto 12.92% 926.23%
DT 9.94% 204.13%
StockXpert 9.06% 142.45%
123RF 6.11% 66.02%
FT 4.98% 92.83%
IS 4.27% 185.12%
Veer 1.55%
BS 0.91% 400.00%
CS 0.91% 800.00%
YM 0.46%
121.40%

(http://jurgielewicz.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/oct2009microstock.png) (http://melastmohican.net/wordpress/2009/11/01/october-2009-earnings-breakdown/)
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: MatHayward on November 03, 2009, 14:30
For me it was an above average month.  Not my best ever, but pretty close.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: helix7 on November 03, 2009, 23:41
BME at Fotolia. In total, my earnings were nearly identical to September's. Off by less than a dollar.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: travelstock on November 04, 2009, 00:05
The only BME for me was in terms of revenue from my blog ;)

SS: 37%
IS: 29%
DT: 16%
FT: 9.5%
StockXpert: 4.5%
BS: 3%
123: 0.3%
Canstock:0.2%
Blog income: 0.5%
Alamy: Nada

Overall income was quite steady - no BMEs, but pretty solid results all round.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: traveler1116 on November 04, 2009, 00:22
BME Overall
BME: IS, 123RF, StockXpert
2nd BME: SS (one month I had 9 ELS in a day so that will be a hard month to beat, without that day this would have been BME)

FT stayed pretty much the same (although lots of rejects for images I expect to do well on all the others sites), BigStock down a bit, and DT down as well

IS: 48%
SS: 34%
123RF: 4%
StockXpert: 4%
FT: 4%
DT: 3%
BigStock: 2%
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: rod on November 04, 2009, 01:38

SS+IS 80+%
other  20-%

Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 04, 2009, 15:43
Looking forward to the time when my statistics would be considered statistics.   :(

Meanwhile, can someone please walk me thru the process of saving a screen shot????

Of note ... my RPD at DT is below a dollar for the fourth consecutive month.  Running at 44 cents as I write this.   ::)
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on November 04, 2009, 16:11
Meanwhile, can someone please walk me thru the process of saving a screen shot????

If you're using Windows, press the <print screen> or <print> button on your keyboard (beside F12), and then paste in your image editor.

If you're using Mac, sorry I don't know.

Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: cthoman on November 04, 2009, 16:19
Command+Shift+3 on a Mac
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 04, 2009, 16:33
Meanwhile, can someone please walk me thru the process of saving a screen shot????

If you're using Windows, press the <print screen> or <print> button on your keyboard (beside F12), and then paste in your image editor.

If you're using Mac, sorry I don't know.



It's the part after pressing the print screen button that has me totally lost.  I don't see anything to paste???? 
My image editor?  Are you talking about the PhotoShopElements Editor?
BTW:  I am using Windows XP.

 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: elvinstar on November 04, 2009, 17:20
You won't see anything to paste. Just open Photoshop and ctrl+n which will create a new document the size of your screenshot. Then ctrl+v and it will paste your screenshot into the open document.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: WarrenPrice on November 04, 2009, 17:43
You won't see anything to paste. Just open Photoshop and ctrl+n which will create a new document the size of your screenshot. Then ctrl+v and it will paste your screenshot into the open document.

This is really embarrassing and I apologize for doing it right in the middle of someone's thread.  That doesn't work????

I can get a blank document but not the screen print.  I tried using the Editor Menu but the "paste clipboard" option is grayed out?????

I feel like such an idiot. 
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: elvinstar on November 04, 2009, 18:19
I just did a quick search on google and found this (http://wisdom-soft.com/products/screenhunter_free.htm). Looks like it should do the trick for you.
Title: Re: How was your October - Earnings breakdown
Post by: epantha on November 04, 2009, 19:34
IS  34%
SS  21%
123RF  17% (BME 3 ELs)
DT  11%
StockXpert  5%
FT  4%
BigStock  3%
Veer  2%
PBC  1%
CanStockPhoto .5%

Overall 3rd BME. DT used to be a solid second but since the changes, they regressed backwards about 8 months. Very disappointing. Veer continues to do better every month. FT never has done well for me.