- At least 10 Million (good, premium content)
- I want to earn money, not pay for uploading or a paid membership.
- Exclusively: 0, Non-exclusive: ~500

Hosting and transferring data from dedicated servers costs a lot of money, so to be profitable it does not matter how many photos you have, but rather that your customers find the ones they need and download them.

The success of a new platform depends on satisfying your customers while having good content providers.

There are millions of good photographers, but there are few customers willing to bet on a new platform. Why pay for what they can get for free -pixabay, etc- or at a very low cost -Freepik, istock ...-? That is the question you have to solve.

You can count on my portfolio, but the exclusivity today is only for very very top photographers. If you need more help, my wife works in a startup incubator in Valencia ...

Hosting and transferring data from dedicated servers costs a lot of money, so to be profitable it does not matter how many photos you have, but rather that your customers find the ones they need and download them.

The success of a new platform depends on satisfying your customers while having good content providers.

There are millions of good photographers, but there are few customers willing to bet on a new platform. Why pay for what they can get for free -pixabay, etc- or at a very low cost -Freepik, istock ...-? That is the question you have to solve.

You can count on my portfolio, but the exclusivity today is only for very very top photographers. If you need more help, my wife works in a startup incubator in Valencia ...

I need more than help, verges on the miraculous. I keep your Nick. Nice land. surely we will meet one day.
Your comment helps me a lot. Thank you.
Money?. For the amount of photographs and video to move to have a chance, we are talking about a lot of infrastructure. I really like your strength. Thank you.

I am a vector artist. I don't mind pay to upload.

Pay to upload will naturally filter out low-commercial-value assets which is a good thing.

However, the biggest problem is still getting customers. This part needs to be solved. All small agencies fail this part.

We have it quite advanced. We know that we need a volume of files and the economic value of that space is brutal.
To achieve the volume of files, it is not short-term.
It will start in beta privately to resolve issues with some Artists.
I will continue to read opinions with pleasure.

We are going to solve most problems by announcing that it will be the group that decides whether or not someone joins the group. And also, I communicate that everyone cannot be and the number of Artists has already been decided. Although the group may modify some aspects of the rules.


I will not give more information. We will get it.


Thank you.

I know. Thank you. mainly, because it is extremely complicated. A market that looks more like a brothel, where people cry about problems, and the important thing is to demonstrate the great brain and talent that we have. I do not care much about the positive votes, nor if the sacred cows of this forum give me their consent, nor if many or few have tried until today. I appreciate that in this thread, three questions are answered, which help me probe the environment.

I'm not asking your permission for anything. Three questions is my request for help.

Thank you very much.

You know how to move. It will not be 100% for the Artist. But the margin that the artist will not receive will not be for me. I understand every word of what you say, and I agree with you. Don't worry, in the least, we will get it. You will be in private creating the norms, and rules that must be decided among the group of Artists, if you want. We will talk in due course.

Yes, I can tell you that 10% can be transferred to the investment partners if the founding partners opt for the option of accepting third-party capital. But this is not the initial option of the founding partners. And it will not be possible to modify the rules if the group of artists does not approve it, nor to sell the platform once the files are available, nor change the rules in the future, with 6 days or six years' notice.

GL Stock had 3 million image and you could have bought it for 15k. It's a tough business.

Stocksy concept but for Microstock images would be good start!

Fair cut so 50/50. I don�t need 100% or even 60%. We are not being realistic here if we go from 0,38 (now 0,10) and 30% to 100% of $1.

Proper review system so you don�t have to worry about stolen portfolios, at least on your own agency. They might buy here and sell elsewhere but this might be easier to handle for takedown.
Start with a small group of contributors that you know you can trust, again similar to Stocksy. There are plenty here but I would personally only take those that have deactivated their portfolios at SS because then you know these people take this business and themselves seriously.

So I repeat start with contributors that have established themselves in Microstock and you know you can trust 100%. That will make it a lot easier on reviews too. Many of us can manage our own portfolios so review them once and then let them upload without reviews or check only occasionally like Alamy does.

I am up for exclusivity, Again think Stocksy concept but microstock price! Not to compete with Stocksy mind you since they have their own unique style. We could even cooperate with Stocksy in the future, fair macro/micro agency. Maybe you can contact Stocksy�s CEO for some advice on creating a new agency. Maybe Sean knows if he would be up for that.

I don�t think the library has to be very big if the quality is high so you can start small. SS seems to be culling portfolios so be one step ahead and avoid it by taking in only quality.

Think of a very catchy name that would be easily related to finding stock images in search engines. We are all creatives here so Im sure we can come up with something even better then what the top agencies use. Im guessing the word stock has to be in there though.

But thats probably the easy part. I don�t know much about the financial and marketing part. I do know that if we truly want to support something we can make it successful.
Others such as glstock have failed in the past because we didn't support them as we should, only halfway. How can you expect another agency to thrive if you upload the same work much cheaper elsewhere? That is why I think exclusivity is key here, at least in the beginning.
I would keep it nice and tight in the beginning.

Or we can continue to laugh every new idea that comes up away, continue uploading everywhere and complain about it until we finally completely killed the industry and have nothing to bargain with anymore.

Excuse my english people since it is not my native language but I do try my best.
This would be my other requirement, well spoken native english speakers to represent us 

Well, for my part, the topic is closed. The answer to my questions, of course, is DEPENDING. It depends on many factors and circumstances. I appreciate the collaboration of those who have participated in the thread.

Gracias.

Thank you very much.


I'm going to open a Platform.

Quote from: ppdd on June 25, 2020, 01:15

GL Stock had 3 million image and you could have bought it for 15k. It's a tough business.

Did someone finally buy it? That guy, the latest owner spent a load of money, having the operating software re-written, I think he said $100,000 if I remember right.

Quote from: Tenebroso on June 25, 2020, 03:25

Well, for my part, the topic is closed. The answer to my questions, of course, is DEPENDING. It depends on many factors and circumstances. I appreciate the collaboration of those who have participated in the thread.

Gracias.

Thank you very much.


I'm going to open a Platform.

OK but here's another answer and I'm not joking. Buy an existing faltering agency. You have the name, the software, the foundations, identity, and a big step forward, instead of having to develop everything from nothing.

In the current market, I don't think you'll have any problem getting files. Maybe the second biggest complication, after the site itself, is reviews, legal, and how you will create an attractive choice for buyers, not just "we have more files".

Good luck I wish you and your platform success.

Not sure I understand the how much would I invest? You mean, making a co-op, artist owned? Interesting concept.

Exclusive images? What kind, subjects, Editorial or "art", scenic, or illustrations? Is this an indication your site would only have exclusive images, to attract buyers on that feature?

I am not interested in creating any agency. There are already consolidated Agencies in a very competitive market with millions of files and established in the industry for years and seen the environment and the current panorama, it seems that some Agency has been nervous for a long time. I have been late to this business and at the right time to find a possible alternative to complement those who want to join me, I will be proud to fight by your side if you decide to enter.

The initial project came up with the idea of writing a book about the adventure of experiencing for myself if I can live earning money online, among the various possibilities that exist. The paradox is that the book is part of those possibilities that the internet offers to earn a living. Another thing is, that someone is interested in buying the book.  I haven't started writing it.

An agency that does not work is double credibility work towards the client in a saturated market. I don't think there is room for more agencies, rather everything is heading towards a certain monopoly in the matter of Agencies. If you turn me, not a single coin falls. However, it is a possibility for those who want to make an agency, get an existing portfolio. But it is not my illusion, not even if I had the money.

Thank you for wishing me luck, since in the past you and I have had strong differences of opinion, in matters unrelated to this archives business, but it does not prevent us from having a peaceful conversation. Thank you.

Out of respect for the Artists collective, I can answer some of your questions to some extent, but I'm not comfortable right now in this post for many reasons. Mainly because this is the internet, and if it's on the internet, you should question everything, as a rule. This phrase is not mine, it is from a well-known hacker.

We believe we have the solution to all the problems described in this thread, and in previous threads on this forum. Most of us already know what the problems are. And we also know that we face unforeseen problems and that interpersonal relationships are very complicated.

It will be each Artist who sells their products. A certain number of Artists may not be exceeded for each sector; vector, video, photography and illustration. The initial group of artists will determine all the norms that will govern the group, following established norms and general rules.

It will be decided to approve or reject the application of the candidates to enter among the Artists who are already in the group. There is no type of review, we are only among professionals with established portfolios in the market and with a minimum of seniority. Thieves will not enter. Together we will watch over the common good and work for the benefit of the group.

Each Artist is responsible for what they sell. Together we will watch and watch to avoid funnels towards sunflowers and tomatoes, we are a group that knows the market and work, as well as working the special campaigns outside the portfolios. We will decide between all what is Special Campaign.
Serious offenses will be grounds for expulsion. There will be no editorial or images with a recognizable product. Whoever leaves does not enter again. Whoever wants to form another group, form it, there is no problem and it is not a reason for expulsion.

Each Artist is responsible for their work and we are all adults. If a model does not sign the authorization, the problem may be with the Artist. A maximum number of files per Artist. Each Artist can decide to upload the number of files they want, whenever they want up to the stipulated maximum.

You can take any file to the Agency you want after removing it from the Platform when you deem it appropriate. In addition, it is recommended to have fresh material.
I must not sell the bear's skin before going hunting. Out of respect for everyone, I have commented on some brush strokes. It wasn't in my plan to talk about any of this now. What has been discussed in this thread confirms that we can achieve it. Much work is still needed. But we are going to get it.

We can try to work with the first small group of artists to outline the details together, in a short period of time.
But this department is within a larger project.
Free, nothing is valued and no one wants to pay. There will be an affordable fee and facilities because one or two people can be fooled, but not the collective during the course of time.

I do not make a platform to fool anyone. I am not in the habit of cheating and there are already too many difficulties to build it well, to complicate life voluntarily.
We are talking about many Terabytes of space. In addition to a lot of management, coordination, collections and......... problems to solve. This group is a very special guild, I consider it a philosophy by way of life.

Sorry.

The term exclusivity refers to the exclusive product. Copyrighted digital files that do not exist anywhere else for sale and where clients will pay for the appropriate permissions if any client wishes.

Some users have already commented on the thread's questions. I have opened this thread, because I had already asked my questions in advance in other threads and nobody ever answered me, understanding that they were very ambiguous questions. For this reason I opened a new thread. Now the issue is resolved, it has helped me a lot.

Thanks, issue resolved.