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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2020, 14:21 »
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Today, few buy books.


Actually, the book is my experience in the adventure of surviving online after a computer. There is advertising, writing for third parties, stock photos, affiliation,... There are a wide variety of imagination and proposals today, even the sale of followers on social networks.

I'm going to go for a walk with the dog. I will meditate on your words. The approach and what it exposes are very helpful to me. However, I have tried not to provide details. Because I'm not interested in giving details.


Thank you very much.
A sincere greeting


« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2020, 07:50 »
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I'm surprised this "start a new agency" nonsense is still on. As others pointed out many times, it's a totally hopeless undertaking. Unless you're backed by investors willing to poor a few million $ into your business, you don't stand a chance. It's not even worth talking about. It's just hot air. If you have time to kill and some money to burn, i'm sure you can find more profitable niches. This one is dead.

« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2020, 12:27 »
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Hello @ morfon


As you very well state in your own words, many others have already expressed this same opinion. Quite generalized, very logical and repeated over time.

This thread has been created to ask three questions to collaborate. Those questions were very difficult to answer. Also, in a difficult time and where we are all tired of new proposals that do not amount to anything. Some users collaborated sincerely, gave their opinion, and I am very grateful for their participation.

This issue was amply resolved among those who participated in the request for help.

There is one thing I do not agree with you, the Microstock files niche is not a dead niche. But it is my personal opinion. Based on the fact that it is difficult that there is no need for Archival Material in the present and in the future, in the near future, I do not see that the aforementioned Archival material is not needed in the market.

I thank again, those who participated in giving their disinterested collaboration to some questions out of place and difficult to interpret. For me, it was a great help. I received much more than I originally expected, therefore the goal is accomplished.

« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2020, 22:56 »
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I'm surprised this "start a new agency" nonsense is still on. As others pointed out many times, it's a totally hopeless undertaking. Unless you're backed by investors willing to poor a few million $ into your business, you don't stand a chance. It's not even worth talking about. It's just hot air. If you have time to kill and some money to burn, i'm sure you can find more profitable niches. This one is dead.

Well I see that you started to build your portfolio pretty much a year ago or so. When I started with this i uploaded two photos one evening just to see the process. In the morning I had like 15 sales. 11 on one photo and 4 on second one. By the end of the month I was over 200$ or so. Anyway...

Looking from that perspective you jumped into a niche that was long time dead and you started burning your time for pennies. And still people answered you when you joined the forum and they didn't tell you stuff like forget it , you cant make it now and it has been pointed many times that you shouldn't even start, out best earners are old images that are holding positions for years, new stuff dont sell etc.

If you dont have something positive to help avoid throwing negativism which was as you say pointed many times. He knows that and he doesn't need to hear that.

Every huge success story was almost impossible in the beginning and there is for sure a scenario where he can succeed. No one ever succeeded without believing. The chances are not great but they exist for sure.
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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2020, 01:22 »
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Well I see that you started to build your portfolio pretty much a year ago or so. When I started with this i uploaded two photos one evening just to see the process. In the morning I had like 15 sales. 11 on one photo and 4 on second one. By the end of the month I was over 200$ or so. Anyway...

Looking from that perspective you jumped into a niche that was long time dead and you started burning your time for pennies. And still people answered you when you joined the forum and they didn't tell you stuff like forget it , you cant make it now and it has been pointed many times that you shouldn't even start, out best earners are old images that are holding positions for years, new stuff dont sell etc.

If you dont have something positive to help avoid throwing negativism which was as you say pointed many times. He knows that and he doesn't need to hear that.

Every huge success story was almost impossible in the beginning and there is for sure a scenario where he can succeed. No one ever succeeded without believing. The chances are not great but they exist for sure.

Right, but i wasnt talking about contributing. I knew it was dead before i signed up. I read a lot of forums and blogs before submitting a single image. Its sort of a hobby and i didnt set any business goals for myself.

I was talking about starting a new agency, which is a totally different proposition. I have nothing against big dreams. But you have to be realistic. I genuinely wish youd succeeded, and if you did id sign up with your agency if you take me :). However, all those dollar boys sitting on the boards of the various big enterprises like SS are not plain stupid. If they cant come up with a meaningful idea to unfcuk the system, i doubt you guys will, just out of the blue. And by the time you build up something from scratch, this whole revolution will run out of breath. It takes years to earn the trust of both buyers and sellers. Top contributors are outraged because they all of a sudden lose a significant part of their income. You think theyll still all be waiting when your shiny new agency rolls out? I might be stupid to economics but i fail to see how youd get some traction and market share in the current business environment.

Dreams are sweet. Business plans that work a different story.

« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2020, 11:50 »
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GL Stock had 3 million image and you could have bought it for 15k. It's a tough business.

Did someone finally buy it? That guy, the latest owner spent a load of money, having the operating software re-written, I think he said $100,000 if I remember right.

Well, for my part, the topic is closed. The answer to my questions, of course, is DEPENDING. It depends on many factors and circumstances. I appreciate the collaboration of those who have participated in the thread.

Gracias.

Thank you very much.


I'm going to open a Platform.

OK but here's another answer and I'm not joking. Buy an existing faltering agency. You have the name, the software, the foundations, identity, and a big step forward, instead of having to develop everything from nothing.

In the current market, I don't think you'll have any problem getting files. Maybe the second biggest complication, after the site itself, is reviews, legal, and how you will create an attractive choice for buyers, not just "we have more files".

Good luck I wish you and your platform success.

Not sure I understand the how much would I invest? You mean, making a co-op, artist owned? Interesting concept.

Exclusive images? What kind, subjects, Editorial or "art", scenic, or illustrations? Is this an indication your site would only have exclusive images, to attract buyers on that feature?



I am not interested in creating any agency. There are already consolidated Agencies in a very competitive market with millions of files and established in the industry for years and seen the environment and the current panorama, it seems that some Agency has been nervous for a long time. I have been late to this business and at the right time to find a possible alternative to complement those who want to join me, I will be proud to fight by your side if you decide to enter.

The initial project came up with the idea of writing a book about the adventure of experiencing for myself if I can live earning money online, among the various possibilities that exist. The paradox is that the book is part of those possibilities that the internet offers to earn a living. Another thing is, that someone is interested in buying the book.  I haven't started writing it.

An agency that does not work is double credibility work towards the client in a saturated market. I don't think there is room for more agencies, rather everything is heading towards a certain monopoly in the matter of Agencies. If you turn me, not a single coin falls. However, it is a possibility for those who want to make an agency, get an existing portfolio. But it is not my illusion, not even if I had the money.

Thank you for wishing me luck, since in the past you and I have had strong differences of opinion, in matters unrelated to this archives business, but it does not prevent us from having a peaceful conversation. Thank you.

Out of respect for the Artists collective, I can answer some of your questions to some extent, but I'm not comfortable right now in this post for many reasons. Mainly because this is the internet, and if it's on the internet, you should question everything, as a rule. This phrase is not mine, it is from a well-known hacker.

We believe we have the solution to all the problems described in this thread, and in previous threads on this forum. Most of us already know what the problems are. And we also know that we face unforeseen problems and that interpersonal relationships are very complicated.

It will be each Artist who sells their products. A certain number of Artists may not be exceeded for each sector; vector, video, photography and illustration. The initial group of artists will determine all the norms that will govern the group, following established norms and general rules.

It will be decided to approve or reject the application of the candidates to enter among the Artists who are already in the group. There is no type of review, we are only among professionals with established portfolios in the market and with a minimum of seniority. Thieves will not enter. Together we will watch over the common good and work for the benefit of the group.

Each Artist is responsible for what they sell. Together we will watch and watch to avoid funnels towards sunflowers and tomatoes, we are a group that knows the market and work, as well as working the special campaigns outside the portfolios. We will decide between all what is Special Campaign.
Serious offenses will be grounds for expulsion. There will be no editorial or images with a recognizable product. Whoever leaves does not enter again. Whoever wants to form another group, form it, there is no problem and it is not a reason for expulsion.

Each Artist is responsible for their work and we are all adults. If a model does not sign the authorization, the problem may be with the Artist. A maximum number of files per Artist. Each Artist can decide to upload the number of files they want, whenever they want up to the stipulated maximum.

You can take any file to the Agency you want after removing it from the Platform when you deem it appropriate. In addition, it is recommended to have fresh material.
I must not sell the bear's skin before going hunting. Out of respect for everyone, I have commented on some brush strokes. It wasn't in my plan to talk about any of this now. What has been discussed in this thread confirms that we can achieve it. Much work is still needed. But we are going to get it.

We can try to work with the first small group of artists to outline the details together, in a short period of time.
But this department is within a larger project.
Free, nothing is valued and no one wants to pay. There will be an affordable fee and facilities because one or two people can be fooled, but not the collective during the course of time.

I do not make a platform to fool anyone. I am not in the habit of cheating and there are already too many difficulties to build it well, to complicate life voluntarily.
We are talking about many Terabytes of space. In addition to a lot of management, coordination, collections and......... problems to solve. This group is a very special guild, I consider it a philosophy by way of life.

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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2020, 13:10 »
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I am not interested in creating any agency.

What's the difference between an agency and the 'platform' you're proposing?

« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2020, 13:56 »
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The Agency acquires certain rights to sell our products. It is in the middle between the client and the Artists as a form of business.

The Platform is not a rival of these Multinationals (Agency), nor is the Multinational a rival of the Platform (Associated Collective of Artists).

The possible clients of this product will move between the two forms of marketing, indistinctly between the two, or only in one. If you want the files from the Platform, you have two options, acquire it on the Platform or wait for its owner to eventually attach it to your portfolio collection at the Classic Agency. Of course, for the money it will not be that the client waits a time for the owner of the file to liberalize her file in one or all the Classic Agencies.

The platform is a new method of trading where we eliminate the intermediary. It is directly between the Artists of the Group and the possible clients.

On the platform, there are only Artists directly offering their product. There are no intermediaries.

It is complex. But we are in a technological era and we must try to find alternatives in this market, options and probe new forms as a complement to a current system in which the Artist is the most affected by the difficulty of joining collectively. Friendship Agencies have no problem. They respect us and we respect them.

The Thursday Craft Markets in a small town in Greece, or the Farmers Market in a small town by Lake Michigan on a Sunday in August, show us the way by adapting it to the Online service. 24/7 and without borders.

The Platform is a Collective of Artists United in an individual goal in a common struggle. Agencies are a business that is dedicated to classifying the showcase, investing in advertising and managing collections and giving us a commercial margin.

The Agencies are consolidated in the market and will continue their business. More and more new groups and ways of trying to reach the product to customers will be created more and more. The current system is at the profit limit for Artists. we need to innovate.

For trying, it is not. And if we fall, we will rise and if it serves for others to start new paths, go ahead.

I prefer not to follow this topic, because it creates more conflict than advantages. To me, even the positive votes, the readers who do not comment, any data and phrase, it helps me to analyze the possibilities and the reaction of the group and some users at the individual level, to analyze the possibilities.

When I have something firm, if someone is interested, they will find me.

« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2020, 16:42 »
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Every huge success story was almost impossible in the beginning and there is for sure a scenario where he can succeed. No one ever succeeded without believing. The chances are not great but they exist for sure.

great pitch for shark tank - an opportunity to spend time & $ on a project w minimal chance to succeed!

« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2020, 19:03 »
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Hola Tenebroso!  Enjoying the weather?  8)

Greetings to the Microstock Community.  I belong to the Tenebroso Collaborators Working Group.

We appreciate your interest in our time, money, effort and work.

As a fluid English speaker, I will try to solve any doubts that may arise at the appropriate time. At this moment in time it is a currently a project in development.


Thank you very much!


 

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