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Title: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: everest on April 17, 2015, 07:24: Hello:

I am having some problems with 2 agencies reading my IPTC data. I keyword with Photo Mechanic upload to Photoshelter and from there I ftp to all the agencies (except Istock). All the agencies read my metadata fine but not 123RF or Canstock where some of my photos appear blank (usually keywords and title missing and sometimes only title missing) It happens every 6 images and the same images are affected in both images.

What could it be. Is this also happening to you? Have you found a solution to avoid the problem. Right now I am copying and pasting the missing metadata but it takes forever.
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: Semmick Photo on April 17, 2015, 08:53: Just uploaded a batch to 123 and CanStockPhoto via FTP and all IPTC data came through fine. Keyworded with LR5 and PS
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: everest on April 17, 2015, 11:48: It might be the way that Photoshelter sends the files. I don't know........,if I try directly through Photo Mechanic ftp feature there are no problems to report so it must be something with Photoshelter
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: cidepix on April 17, 2015, 15:20: you are right..

canstock doesn't read IPTC data from zipped vectors..

123rf is ok for me..
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: weltreisendertj on April 18, 2015, 11:20: Im using mymicrostockupload.com it works fine.

Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: Artist on April 18, 2015, 11:29: Yes, Same happened with me on Canstock. 123Rf working very fine.

I have many files to be uploaded to canstock but this doesn't seems to be resolving. :(
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: bunhill on April 18, 2015, 11:48: My guess is that this will relate to the IPTC data having been saved using the old IIM schema - as opposed to XMP. Or vice versa. There will probably be a setting in Photo Mechanic which allows you to select one or the other, or both.

You probably want to select whatever option gives you embedded XMP (ie not IIM and not using a sidecar file). It may alternatively be called Dublin Core (different but compatible). Or it may be that you are best having the data written to both XMP and the legacy IIM.

IPTC is not a single format. photometadata.org (http://www.photometadata.org/META-101-metadata-types) is a great read.
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: everest on April 19, 2015, 07:53: Quote from: bunhill on April 18, 2015, 11:48
My guess is that this will relate to the IPTC data having been saved using the old IIM schema - as opposed to XMP. Or vice versa. There will probably be a setting in Photo Mechanic which allows you to select one or the other, or both.

You probably want to select whatever option gives you embedded XMP (ie not IIM and not using a sidecar file). It may alternatively be called Dublin Core (different but compatible). Or it may be that you are best having the data written to both XMP and the legacy IIM.

IPTC is not a single format. photometadata.org ([url]http://www.photometadata.org/META-101-metadata-types[/url]) is a great read.

Thanks for your help. I have looked for what format does Photo Mechanic use and it is the modern XMP. I have the option checked When writing IPTC/XMP Add embedded IPTC (XMP will always be written) activated.

I don't think Photo Mechanic is the problem as when I upload directly from this software no IPTC data gets truncated. It is when I upload to Photoshelter first and then I ftp to all the sites that this happens. Only random images on 123RF and Canstockphotos and the same for both. I don't know what is wrong but it has to be on Photoshelter.

On the other hand I am using now Stocksubmitter which is great so far. The only negative is my VDSL connection with slow uploads. I wish I had optic cable here at my home. Sending so many files too different agencies will take me forever .

Cheers
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: bunhill on April 19, 2015, 09:43: I am sure you have already been through this, but looking at this page (https://support.photoshelter.com/hc/en-us/articles/203374490-Export-Images-via-Outbound-FTP-) - I see that in the Photoshelter FTP export settings there is a possibly relevant option: -> embed updated metadata.

You would want that to be NOT checked. Also opt to send the original file if that is possible.

(http://www.photoshelter.com/img/help/ftp2.gif)
Title: Re: IPTC data broken when sending through FTP 123RF & Canstockphoto
Post by: everest on April 19, 2015, 11:04: Yes that might be the problem. In all the images I have sent until now I had this Embed updated metadata checked, as I was making modifications in the images through the Photoshelter interface (when I forgot some keywords ) ....that might be the culprit.

Thanks again :-)