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Title: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on May 25, 2017, 19:08
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/25/beware-500px-now-sells-photos-fotolia-without-credit (https://petapixel.com/2017/05/25/beware-500px-now-sells-photos-fotolia-without-credit)

I don't remember getting an announcement from 500px about this. Why does that not surprise me?

Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Mantis on May 25, 2017, 19:27
Another KT "screw the contributor strategy"
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: cobalt on May 25, 2017, 19:40
Sounds like normal macrostock distribution.

They probably need to explain it better, but these delayed earnings from partners are normal with macrostock, it can take half a year before the money reaches you.
500px files are placed in a premium collection, not the cheap part of Adobe.

Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on May 25, 2017, 19:51
They announced this at the end of January

https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/introducing-500px-for-adobe-stock-premium-collection/

https://about.500px.com/press/

I didn't care as I had already pulled my uploads there from Marketplace when they cut the royalty rate. These days, the only emails I get from 500px are the discount offers on their various paid plans, so I figured they'd largely shifted focus to charging photographers money and away from trying to be a stock agency.

The long lead times on sale reporting and payment are certainly found elsewhere (Alamy as an example). The higher the price, the longer you wait to get paid :)
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 25, 2017, 20:50
it's a lot of outrage and ranting over something that is 'just how things work'.  Like "Omg! I'm opted into partner distribution and they distributed my work to a partner site!!!".  I don't think some of these folk should be licensing content.
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: sarah2 on May 29, 2017, 02:52
I fancy it's a good idea. They (500px) may just sell a bit more - and if I can get some photos in at a higher level on FT I'm happy.
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Pauws99 on May 29, 2017, 03:17
it's a lot of outrage and ranting over something that is 'just how things work'.  Like "Omg! I'm opted into partner distribution and they distributed my work to a partner site!!!".  I don't think some of these folk should be licensing content.
True but I think a bit more transparency wouldn't come amiss
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on May 29, 2017, 12:23
They announced this at the end of January

https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/introducing-500px-for-adobe-stock-premium-collection/d

https://about.500px.com/press/

I didn't care as I had already pulled my uploads there from Marketplace when they cut the royalty rate. These days, the only emails I get from 500px are the discount offers on their various paid plans, so I figured they'd largely shifted focus to charging photographers money and away from trying to be a stock agency.

The long lead times on sale reporting and payment are certainly found elsewhere (Alamy as an example). The higher the price, the longer you wait to get paid :)

What I'm getting at is I don't remember seeing an email which is what I would expect as someone who has images there. An email with details so I can decide if I want to participate. Maybe they sent one and I overlooked it. I had images there I sell as RM on my site so if they quietly made them available as RF on Fotolia It wouldt be a good thing for me.

Way too many of these side deals conflict with other things I have going on.
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 29, 2017, 15:36
I don't see why you'd expect an email.  I've never gotten an email when WestEnd, for instance, was adding partners. 
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on May 29, 2017, 20:26
I don't see why you'd expect an email.  I've never gotten an email when WestEnd, for instance, was adding partners.

Looks like the expectations bar has been set pretty low these days.
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 30, 2017, 03:39
Well, they can't offer opt outs every time a new partner is added.  It's an all or nothing thing.  So either you're into distribution or you're not.

I mean, would it be great to have a checklist of every partner and what the deal is so you know what is happening with each?  Sure.  Let me know who does that.
Title: Re: Is 500px Selling Your Photos on Fotolia?
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on May 30, 2017, 06:48
Sure they don't have to offer opt outs but I still have a choice.

No idea who still does that. If nobody, pretty sad. And exactly why I'm shifting to relying less on partners and more on direct sales.