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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: Dreamframer on April 29, 2009, 14:03
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I sold my old timer, one of first images I made for microstock.... a medical thermometer.
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Not sure I understand your question, Whitechild. You said "pigs" then you say in your comment "thermometer". ???
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Oh, sorry. I said it because of this so called "swine flu" is main theme in almost every news these days, and it's connected with high body temperature. I see pigs images everywhere and I think most of them are from microstock.
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You can hear often that men are pigs. Does it qualify?
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I have several Live "Stock" images online but no sales as yet. :o
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Oh, sorry. I said it because of this so called "swine flu" is main theme in almost every news these days, and it's connected with high body temperature. I see pigs images everywhere and I think most of them are from microstock.
Ahhh, very smart ! It could be a good idea to upload images of pig , for sure . If you can find them.
Oh yes, you are a vet ,right? So you're probably in a position to be able to find some pigs to photograph.
Good idea Whitechild. No pigs in Gotham City, only lots of criminals and Joker(s) ;)
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Actually, I think it's little too late to submit images of pigs now because it's already proved that this new virus has ability to spread among humans without any contact with pigs. Also, this new strain has genes from humans, pigs and birds, and I think it's not found in pigs at all. It just first started to spread from some town near one big swine farm. Today became obvious that virus is not very connected with pigs. I think officials changed the name of the flu to "North American Flu" or something like that.
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Earn from the crisis? :o You are such a pig!! Go shoot yourself >:(
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OMG Magnum! I didn't say that! Who could earn from few pig images?? Did you see I put a smiley or something in my post? This is serious thing, it's not a joke. I was just curious because I saw many images of pigs online, that's all. I didn't say I'm happy about it....My God....
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Are y'all being serious? I hope someone does buy my pig image. If I had pictures of the Iraq war, I'd sell them too.
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Earn from the crisis? :o
Absolutely. Just because there is a negative effect from the disease doesn't mean there isn't a market for imagery to help communicate news or other articles.
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Earn from the crisis? :o You are such a pig!! Go shoot yourself >:(
Magnum my friend, you are over-reacting. He didn't say he liked it that swine fever is getting people dying , nor did he say he was going to exploit the porker. You exploit other news situation too, we all do. If not we will all be shooting flowers for microstock.
I am hoping you are joking , as usual.,.. the irony ... ;)
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Earn from the crisis? :o
Absolutely. Just because there is a negative effect from the disease doesn't mean there isn't a market for imagery to help communicate news or other articles.
hate to agree with you ;) but this time i agree sjlocke 8)
magnum is over reacting and being unrealistic.
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Guys, guys... I suggest stopping discussion about this. Human lives are in question and it's not time to make jokes about it.
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Guys, guys... I suggest stopping discussion about this. Human lives are in question and it's not time to make jokes about it.
no joke meant Whitechild. if you were around when the twin towers fell sept 11 2001 and you had your Canon in your hand. would you be taking photographs to submit for editorial? or would you say that was exploitation on suffering?
;)
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I think I won't start any thread soon because looks like my threads always go in unpredictable way....
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you are having some unlucky thread luck whitechild ;)
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I think I won't start any thread soon because looks like my threads always go in unpredictable way....
you are having some unlucky thread luck whitechild ;)
;D You're not the only one, Whitechild. See tan510jomast 's latest thread
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/are-you-a-successful-micro-stalker-)/msg94521/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=a1339131a861cc6e1308c98e65002948#new (http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/are-you-a-successful-micro-stalker-)/msg94521/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=a1339131a861cc6e1308c98e65002948#new)
He's having trouble getting serious too ;D ;D ;D
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you are having some unlucky thread luck whitechild ;)
Yeah, I guess so :) Maybe someone cursed me?! :-\
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:D That image FD posted in the thread is awesome :D
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In the same thread, Keith posted some silly searches, but on the right side they posted a buyers request:
"4/27/2009 6:53:52 PM
zymmetrical: Buyer request: civilians wearing surgical masks ala 'swine flu'. First person to upload an accepted shot gets homepaged."
So, the market is asking for these types of images.
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I am personally terrified as i'm supposed to be running a marathon on Sunday, but the concept of running amongst thousands of heavily breathing strangers from all over, along with taking drinks from random volunteers, has me honestly questioning whether it's worth proving my manhood this time around.
It's no joking matter but yes we are in the business of timely imagery and this is a big theme - along with editorial projects comes up a whole slew of articles and media pieces on the theme that need stock. When the air becomes thick with paranoia and a topic is on everyones tongue, it's big news and naturally in big demand for visual representation.
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I'm a bit uneasy about the whole thing as well. I am in San Francisco Bay Area and this morning, a high school in my neighborhood was closed due to a suspected case. It is quite possible that sibling of this girl that got sick also go to my son's school. We should all be careful and wise about the whole. I still think it is not unethical to sell a picture of a pig or a thermometer, There are many pictures out there that tackle social and medical issues. Still, it would be a bit too much to declare all of them as profiting on people's misery.
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Earn from the crisis? :o You are such a pig!! Go shoot yourself >:(
Magnum my friend, you are over-reacting. He didn't say he liked it that swine fever is getting people dying , nor did he say he was going to exploit the porker. You exploit other news situation too, we all do. If not we will all be shooting flowers for microstock.
I am hoping you are joking , as usual.,.. the irony ... ;)
Ha ha. I was soooo ironic. Do you think I´d put these yellow faces all over the post if I was serious?
I´m shooting pigs right now...
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There was a thread about editorial pictures on microstock sites. I do not think editorial pictures are doing well in microstock market (pigs pictures). Newspapers editors (the ones editing first pages, breaking news pages) use news pictures services Reuters, AP,AFP etc. They do not even connect to microstock. Maybe other editors do (lifestyle, business etc), but breaking news- no.
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There was a thread about editorial pictures on microstock sites. I do not think editorial pictures are doing well in microstock market (pigs pictures). Newspapers editors (the ones editing first pages, breaking news pages) use news pictures services Reuters, AP,AFP etc. They do not even connect to microstock. Maybe other editors do (lifestyle, business etc), but breaking news- no.
that's so true Dook. where are you living? i've been freelancing in Canada and until the end of 1990's the papers were buying, even the tabloids, and paying 15 dollars per photo . at that time as a new graduate i was stringing for these weekly writing photo essays getting about $100 a page each week.
then after the crash, they all started using news services. last time i heard in montreal, the papers told me the same, "all free services ...but we give you photo credits,lol). here in halifax, i blog for the local web papers (they just laid off a bunch of journalists), and all my work has been voluntary. i do it just for my writing port, not for giving away my photos . but local students from the arts school and university are working for free to get a start in their "careers"
i do sell a couple of my editorials with DT, but they were bought by associations related to those new images, i think ;)
but certainly nothing like the old 80-90s when even a fresh commercial and photojournalism graduate could make money, real money .
times sure changed ,hasn't it? and i sort of pity the new young photographers, all coming out with incredible technique using the view camera to manual Pentax K1000 slr, Mamiyas twinlr (no dslr in photo U or school, they won't allow you to cheat. it's all manual and with their handheld light meters , all practising along the waterfront ... ).
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Sounds like you had a long and interesting career tan510jomast. You said good ole 80s-90s , so you must be old ! ;D I don't mean old and tired, I mean more senior than most newbies in microstock . 8)
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Sounds like you had a long and interesting career tan510jomast. You said good ole 80s-90s , so you must be old ! ;D I don't mean old and tired, I mean more senior than most newbies in microstock . 8)
lol bat, if you mean 40+ and a zoomer, yes i am ! tired? no, just semi retired in photography. and micro is a one day a week thing for me. just testing the water , sort of. probably get bored of it, if all you get is subs. btw, how "ole" are you batman ???
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There was a thread about editorial pictures on microstock sites. I do not think editorial pictures are doing well in microstock market (pigs pictures). Newspapers editors (the ones editing first pages, breaking news pages) use news pictures services Reuters, AP,AFP etc. They do not even connect to microstock. Maybe other editors do (lifestyle, business etc), but breaking news- no.
that's so true Dook. where are you living? i've been freelancing in Canada and until the end of 1990's the papers were buying, even the tabloids, and paying 15 dollars per photo . at that time as a new graduate i was stringing for these weekly writing photo essays getting about $100 a page each week.
then after the crash, they all started using news services. last time i heard in montreal, the papers told me the same, "all free services ...but we give you photo credits,lol). here in halifax, i blog for the local web papers (they just laid off a bunch of journalists), and all my work has been voluntary. i do it just for my writing port, not for giving away my photos . but local students from the arts school and university are working for free to get a start in their "careers"
i do sell a couple of my editorials with DT, but they were bought by associations related to those new images, i think ;)
but certainly nothing like the old 80-90s when even a fresh commercial and photojournalism graduate could make money, real money .
times sure changed ,hasn't it? and i sort of pity the new young photographers, all coming out with incredible technique using the view camera to manual Pentax K1000 slr, Mamiyas twinlr (no dslr in photo U or school, they won't allow you to cheat. it's all manual and with their handheld light meters , all practising along the waterfront ... ).
I am from Eastern Europe, but things are the same in newspapers all around the world.
If a news story lives longer than , lets say, few days ( like this flue unfortunately) there is chance for microstock editorial pictures to sell. First, these pictures would be accepted by the time, and second, the news pictures services are charging something like 10 euros for archive pictures ( older than 3 days) and it is more than microstock picture.
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I am from Eastern Europe, but things are the same in newspapers all around the world.
If a news story lives longer than , lets say, few days ( like this flue unfortunately) there is chance for microstock editorial pictures to sell. First, these pictures would be accepted by the time, and second, the news pictures services are charging something like 10 euros for archive pictures ( older than 3 days) and it is more than microstock picture.
hey good point ,Dook! i will keep an eye more on those editorials. i never thought much of it nowadays, as i got tired of chasing the news. but you just gave me some bright ideas for micro stock editorials.
cheers.
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First ever sale on Yaymicro today (2.5 euro). Guess what, a picture of a Tamworth pig. It is just possible that editing my keywords last night and adding "swine" and "flu" may have helped a bit. Not exploitation, just following journalistic instinct for an old RM editorial hack. Regards, David
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First ever sale on Yaymicro today (2.5 euro). Guess what, a picture of a Tamworth pig. It is just possible that editing my keywords last night and adding "swine" and "flu" may have helped a bit. Not exploitation, just following journalistic instinct for an old RM editorial hack. Regards, David
Otherwise known as "spam".
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First ever sale on Yaymicro today (2.5 euro). Guess what, a picture of a Tamworth pig. It is just possible that editing my keywords last night and adding "swine" and "flu" may have helped a bit. Not exploitation, just following journalistic instinct for an old RM editorial hack. Regards, David
Otherwise known as "spam".
Is it really spam? He sold the picture.
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Sure it's spam. You can't just add "flu" to any picture of a pig. That would be like adding "married" to all pictures of women, because some of them are.
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Sure it's spam. You can't just add "flu" to any picture of a pig. That would be like adding "married" to all pictures of women, because some of them are.
Good point, Mr locke
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Sure it's spam. You can't just add "flu" to any picture of a pig. That would be like adding "married" to all pictures of women, because some of them are.
Really? Would they sell? The addition of "flu" seems to have helped sell the picture of swine. Are you really sure that is spam? I see a lot of "Swine Flu" pictures in the searches. They seem to be selling?
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First ever sale on Yaymicro today (2.5 euro). Guess what, a picture of a Tamworth pig. It is just possible that editing my keywords last night and adding "swine" and "flu" may have helped a bit. Not exploitation, just following journalistic instinct for an old RM editorial hack. Regards, David
Otherwise known as "spam".
Fair comment Sean if we were talking about a non editorial site like Istock. A picture of a pig does not show "flu" and the keyword would be spam in that case. For a site like Yay which pitches towards editorial markets it was totally relevant in my opinion. Sky News has been constantly using a stock shot of a pig to illustrate its swine flu reports and I am sure many other media outlets are doing the same. I don't think anyone in the media searching for pictures to illustrate swine flu would regard a picture of a pig as irrelevant. Spam? Pig? actually Sean were you being funny and I missed it?, regards, David
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Would you keyword a picture of a horse in a field with "Kentucky Derby"?
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Going against Sean to say it's ok for a pic of a pig (tongue twister here, lol) to indicate swine flu... would that mean all those with a shot of bacon would now be a good time to add the keywords "swine flu"?
Let's get all pork chops, bacon, pig, piglet, boar, etc... and add the keywords then.
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So should http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-6676399-hot-pink-baltimore-hon.php (http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-6676399-hot-pink-baltimore-hon.php) be keyworded as 'retro revival' if we were in the 1960's?
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Would you keyword a picture of a horse in a field with "Kentucky Derby"?
Never, Sean, that would be a total lie (and spam) . A picture of a pig (swine) is totally relevant to swine flu reports (editorially). It relates to pigs. Therefore any image of a pig (at present) makes it is a relevant keyword. It's times like this that I wish I was an Istock excluslive (I'd have loads of pix of the swine flu virus - isolated on white of course!). Regards, David
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Sorry, I disagree. Would you like all thermometers tagged with "swine flu"? I mean, you have to take someone's temperature when you have the flu, right?
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Sorry, I disagree. Would you like all thermometers tagged with "swine flu"? I mean, you have to take someone's temperature when you have the flu, right?
If it led to a sale yes . Let the buyer decide, surely! (they ain't stupid) Regards, David
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If you want a photo of a pig to illustrate a concept of swine flu, you search for «pigs», not flu...
Claude
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If it led to a sale yes . Let the buyer decide, surely! (they ain't stupid) Regards, David
Then you should spam all kinds of stuff on there. Business, medicine, health, etc. Who knows, it might lead to a sale, and who cares about the unknown quantity of people you annoy with your pig in a "swine flu" search.
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I was working yesterday on a pig portrait with headset, a scrub suit and a thermometer in its mouth but the beast was quite uncooperative. I got almost kicked twice in the youknowhat.
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There are some very creative Swine Flu illustrations on DT. Is it spamming to Title the image Swine Flu?
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If it led to a sale yes . Let the buyer decide, surely! (they ain't stupid) Regards, David
Then you should spam all kinds of stuff on there. Business, medicine, health, etc. Who knows, it might lead to a sale, and who cares about the unknown quantity of people you annoy with your pig in a "swine flu" search.
This debate certainly would be worth keeping abreast. How about an image of someone with a hypodermic syringe and the "non-spamming" keywords, (hang on to this... the possibilty is endless):
"swine flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, tuberculosis, yellow fever, avian flu, asian flu, ....(you continue)"
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There are some very creative Swine Flu illustrations on DT. Is it spamming to Title the image Swine Flu?
There is some very creative spamming too. This is on page 1 for "swine flu":
(http://www.dreamstime.com/not-to-infect-music-thumb4317128.jpg)
Keywords: absorbed adult airborne audio audiophile avian background black boy caucasian equipment facial flu hair head headphones headset leisure listen listening looking male man mask music pleased protection risk safety sickness sounds stereo studio swine toxicity upwards virus
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What's the headphone for? It would be more appropriate if they included a parabolic microphone, like those used in football matches in USA and Canada. Then they can say that the headphones is used to listen for the approach of the swine herd stampede , fleeing from researchers of WHO gathering swines to develop an antidote. 8)
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What's the headphone for?
This person probably read somewhere that overwhites with headset or medical sells well, so he combined both to play safe, adding swine and avian flu to make it a top seller. He just misses a hardhat and a business handshake with himself. The caucasian black boy keeps puzzling me. Did he hint to Obama? ;)
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"black" is probably for his hair.
He could be wearing a suit for the business part. :D
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"black" is probably for his hair.
He could be wearing a suit for the business part. :D
Naw, he is a CAUCASIAN BOY who is PLEASED that he has FACIAL HAIR which may be a RISK to you if you're in the lying in the BACKGROUND LOOKING UPWARDS because you could be ABSORBED by the TOXICITY of his MALE EQUIPMENT. SOUNDS right?
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My question earlier probably doesn't make sense without some more context: as time goes on, words used to describe objects and concepts changes in popular culture. What if this flu continues to escalate for years and everyone is wearing masks 24/7, certainly after a few years of this people would look at that type of mask and think one phrase - 'swine flu'.
I agree it's a stretch at this point but if you are being completely literal about everything there's going to be lost sales. I think erring on the side of trends a bit can only cause a net benefit.