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Paula, they say that the first stage of that old age affliction,( I won't mention the sickness for fear of hurting the innocent old ones), begins with anger, distrust, fear of sharing, and blaming the world for your inability to cope and keep up with change.This could have brought up the tempest, so to speak. Pls don't take it personally,they're really not worth it. Share your thoughts here, don't be afraid of the boisterous and sometimes over the top exaggeration. It's like a game. Some pplafter hitting bulleye will quietly walk away and sip their guinness, while another who miss the board will scream shout stomp their feet , and even pour the precious brew over their opponent. All in a good day's forum, I'd say. Hope to see you again, huh?
For another example of how rude people are on here, read this latest thread http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=6947.msg80456;topicseen#new The last post I read on there, someone took the time to write up a whole new version of how he should've presented his question, rather than taking the time to answer it. Another person questioned the amount of time he had available. And yet another person took the time to just be a smart a$$. It seems to me that the people on here just want to attack newcomers. But I guess jerks need their own forum, too.
Quote from: paulacobleigh on January 30, 2009, 11:31For another example of how rude people are on here, read this latest thread http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?topic=6947.msg80456;topicseen#new The last post I read on there, someone took the time to write up a whole new version of how he should've presented his question, rather than taking the time to answer it. Another person questioned the amount of time he had available. And yet another person took the time to just be a smart a$$. It seems to me that the people on here just want to attack newcomers. But I guess jerks need their own forum, too.Here I take some time to point out to that poster a sensible way to approach what he wants to do (that would garner respect from other members) instead of blindly flailing ahead, and I'm a smart ass? If you'd actually read it, it was a way to answer the question. Perhaps some of those here would like to see people walk before they start running. Makes more sense.... and here you are calling people names, and someone else is the rude one?
Please don't leave - I don't think those replies were intended to be unkind, it reads to me as though they were just joshing a bit.And that was Sean being nice!I'll buy you a Guinness if you're ever in Aberdeen...
People come to this site to LEARN about microstock.
Quote from: paulacobleigh on January 30, 2009, 13:45People come to this site to LEARN about microstock.Actually, I come to this site to DISCUSS microstock. Sorry about misreading your other post. However, I wasn't rephrasing his question. I was setting it up as an example of how he should approach what he wants to do.I'd also agree with the "best way to build up a portfolio" would be to take the initiative to assign yourself work to do, get it done, and fill your portfolio with that. That's what we all do daily. Make our own assignments, shoot 'em, process 'em and add to the portfolio. A business is not going to let you walk in the door as a newbie just because you have a camera.
Hmmmm....discuss but not learn. Well, apparently I'm at the wrong site.
Quote from: paulacobleigh on January 30, 2009, 15:08Hmmmm....discuss but not learn. Well, apparently I'm at the wrong site. Learning is a subset of discussion. Not saying you can't do both.Maybe I did word that comment badly. The point was, and, this doesn't just apply to that poster, that if you walk in, being able to show some effort towards your goal with a sensible outlook, that people are more likely to help you. ie., if you come in with "How do I make it in microstock" without even reading the camera manual, that doesn't show a lot of respect towards the members with knowledge to share, that you couldn't even take the time to access the opportunities available.
paula, thx 4 your response.the thing is no matter where u r, there will always be someone or some people with their heads stuck in their rearends. and everything they say will come out like it was from there. that's how they live. that's what makes their day. they thrive on this nastiness. be kind to these ppl, they need you to complete their day. or else,where would they go?
Paul, I have so little info on shooting food to share it has never been my specialty. I had a couple of bread companies and a beer company for clients 15 years ago and the only main rule of thumb I use is my main is back to wrap the food unless the sauce is to reflective add a fill light to the front to soften the shadows down quite a bit and then try a hard accent light from the front or back corner just wracking the top of your subject to give it some sparkle and maybe warm up the highlights with a soft amber gel. Lighting beer is a whole different process using reflective cards placed behind the beer glasses with grid spots kicked into them to add the right amount of light to your beer to get the correct color of the product. Watch out for to short a depth of field and keep the background inviting but simple so it does not compete with the subject. There are some good books on how to make food look good with extra tips and tricks. A lot of times the food on the plate is not edible because it has been charred on the outside but still raw inside or they have added glycerin to something with a brush to make it shine a bit more. Good food shooting has a learning curve but it can become a successful career if approached seriously. School is an excellent option for such a career.Good Luck,AVAVA
Paula, are you looking to do food photography?
People will often say here that they don't read the Shutterstock (or was it DT) forums because there is nothing but pimping threads and fawning critiques posts.If everything was happy cheery all the time, the world wouldn't be very interesting. Everyone here has a different personality and posting style. I find it interesting to read all the various views. Sorry if that doesn't please you, but there's fun talk in amongst all the chitchat. And some useful information. For instance, I thought your initial post in this thread was very interesting.
Hi Paula, Sorry about the name. I specialize in lifestyle and people photography and would always be happy to answer any question you might want another opinion on in that field. You can always PM me as well if you are concerned with some of the posters here. There really are several really good people here, just have to be careful of some of the rougher edges. I know it took me quite a while to adapt to the approach by some but I see reward all the time from the good ones. Best,AVAVA
Hi Paula, I think if most of the people on this site had to live together like those in your parents home or even work together in an office there would be a greater effort at social grace. These qualities are taught to us by our surroundings and family. If you were not subject to any form of proper social upbringing then it is hard to expect that result once an adult. Combine that with the anonymity of the net and you get an opportunity for just about any kind of response. It makes tough guys out of of people that most likely aren't that tough by nature. I think your explanation of how to sandwich a critique was very well put.Best,AVAVA