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Title: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Lothar on June 06, 2017, 08:39
Hi everyone, My earnings dropped %50  last 2 weeks on all agencies(especially fotolia) .Is there some kind of a holiday?
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Pauws99 on June 06, 2017, 08:43
I don't know but its been a very sluggish start in June for me......
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2017, 08:46
here also. i suspect ss had big problem of traffic. the rest is slow as hell. the more you upload the less download. in my opinion the trend is clear.
apart some big seller micro will be soon only something amateur or part time photog can do.
luckily i'm earning more with macro.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2017, 08:53
one million file every week...there is no hope in this condition. i was always optimistic. produced 1000 lifestyle content in last month with model stylist bla bla....and zero download of new content. only those photo who has good old position keep selling. the new content after 2 hours are already buried by thousand of content coming from russia uklraine thailand...especially food and people photography.
yesterday i submit a batch of fitness photography made in a not common situation, after 2 hours was in page 7 of new files.
microstock is finished.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Lana on June 06, 2017, 09:16
I had another Monday like Sunday :( I mean SS, but yes other agencies are slow too.
My weekend was actually pretty good

Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: BelieveInStock on June 06, 2017, 09:18
Same situation here, last weeks are very bad. It seems my nick here is no longer accurate :(.
Strange thing I am seeing a big drop in both Fotolia and SS. Never happened before.

Jonbull what macro agencies do you mean, if you don't mind ?
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2017, 09:24
Same situation here, last weeks are very bad. It seems my nick here is no longer accurate :(.
Strange thing I am seeing a big drop in both Fotolia and SS. Never happened before.

Jonbull what macro agencies do you mean, if you don't mind ?

i collaborate with alamy, for rf and some rm, i work with documentary agency in usa and europe for my real " photo" wok, documentary and travel photography. one is redux pictures in usa. micro is just a sideline but i hope to increase with shooting lifestyle and other oriented commercial content.
at 1 million new files you can shoot all the quality and niche u want is simply impossible, apart u have some hidden deal with agency, those who have big producer i'm sure, in normal condition is simply impossible. and we have not seen nothing i suspect...they are accepting new contributors every day...world is full of amateur ready to jump in the band wagon and i suspect in less than a year we will see 300 million content mark.

if you are travel and documentary i suggest look also for instagram. grow is difficult but rewarding.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Microstockphoto on June 06, 2017, 09:45
there were national holidays across europe last week and this week, so sales could have slowed down

however, it has to be said, i made pay out in the first day of june and doubled my earnings on the 2nd day, had an EL over the weekend, and then everything fell of a cliff again, lol. back to 10 dollar days
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Zero Talent on June 06, 2017, 09:52
This is when Fotolia ranking comes handy. I sold 20% less last week, but my rank went up => sign that overall things were slower than usual.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2017, 10:00
This is when Fotolia ranking comes handy. I sold 20% less last week, but my rank went up => sign that overall things were slower than usual.

agree selling less and rising also in fotolia.
agency are falling down, i suspect not only the competition of files, but most of all agency are collecting less customer less sales less traffic.
i suspect many customer are moving to find photos outside agency, they not even want pay 38 cent), they steal ask friend to photos look in flickr Facebook instagram....ask permission to use photos and most people are so happy to agree to give photo for zero dollar.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 06, 2017, 10:04
appalling june really.
5 downloads today. they put hand in algorithm 2 weeks ago i disappeared completelyy from radar.
they want sell cheap files who cost them only 0,28. it's clear.
i wen from 40 files steadily in last three month to 5 overnight.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 06, 2017, 11:05
Only Adobe FT more than 50 % down today and yesterday. Others normal.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Minsc on June 06, 2017, 11:10
Yesterday was the start of WWDC aka Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference. People were waiting for announcements regarding Apple products and changes to iOS, so yesterday morning was expectedly slow.

It last for about a week and a lot of developers from around the world attend it. Many of them don't work during this week, they just attend sessions. Things will pick up during the week as the conference ends on Friday. If you have a lot of tech related images, you'll be slightly more affected than others.

Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Stockmaan on June 06, 2017, 11:37
Minsc thanks for explanation.

Best
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Pauws99 on June 06, 2017, 11:43
Yesterday was the start of WWDC aka Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference. People were waiting for announcements regarding Apple products and changes to iOS, so yesterday morning was expectedly slow.

It last for about a week and a lot of developers from around the world attend it. Many of them don't work during this week, they just attend sessions. Things will pick up during the week as the conference ends on Friday. If you have a lot of tech related images, you'll be slightly more affected than others.
I wouldn't imagine it would make that much difference would it?
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: increasingdifficulty on June 06, 2017, 11:45
Yesterday was the start of WWDC aka Apple's World Wide Developer's Conference. People were waiting for announcements regarding Apple products and changes to iOS, so yesterday morning was expectedly slow.

It last for about a week and a lot of developers from around the world attend it. Many of them don't work during this week, they just attend sessions. Things will pick up during the week as the conference ends on Friday. If you have a lot of tech related images, you'll be slightly more affected than others.
I wouldn't imagine it would make that much difference would it?

Haha, of course not. But I guess it's natural that people must find things to blame.  :)
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on June 06, 2017, 12:46
Good start to the month of Thursday and Friday. I had a terrible day on Saturday though, but there was a double shadow-transit of Jupiter from Io and Ganymede... so that would explain it. Things seem to be back to normal now.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Minsc on June 06, 2017, 12:59
I wouldn't imagine it would make that much difference would it?

It did for me since I had a lot of tech-related images. Last year was the same thing. Slow sales on the first day of WWDC in 2016. I'm not blaming anything. I know my own sales pattern better than anyone. I expect the trend to continue next year.

I think people underestimate the effects of WWDC. App developers, some designers and web developers from all over the world don't do much work for a whole 2.5 hours while Apple announce updates to iOS and announce new products. And when news websites put out news stories, they used Apple-supplied images or photos taken by press attendees at the conference.

Many of developers who attend the conference won't be doing much work for the whole week.


Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on June 06, 2017, 13:06
Is there some kind of a holiday?

Yes - summer.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Brightontl on June 06, 2017, 13:07
I don't know if the conference can have an impact, but the last two day have been horrible, after five excellent weeks
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Brasilnut on June 06, 2017, 13:48
I have a lot of editorials of london police so these are doing well, security must be the theme of the week/month/year
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Chichikov on June 06, 2017, 14:04
This week-end + Monday was Pentecost for Catholic and Orthodox Christians (for others I don't know).
For muslim countries it is the period of Ramadan, from 26 May to 24 June. I don't know if it can have some effect on the sales.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Lana on June 06, 2017, 22:00
Good start to the month of Thursday and Friday. I had a terrible day on Saturday though, but there was a double shadow-transit of Jupiter from Io and Ganymede... so that would explain it. Things seem to be back to normal now.

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: alexzappa on June 07, 2017, 03:11
Good start to the month of Thursday and Friday. I had a terrible day on Saturday though, but there was a double shadow-transit of Jupiter from Io and Ganymede... so that would explain it. Things seem to be back to normal now.

Sure...but this have an impact only on space related media  ::)
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: SpaceStockFootage on June 07, 2017, 03:27
Well the WWDC dudes were going to head back to their hotels to buy a bunch of stock, but they decided to hit up the local observatory instead.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Pauws99 on June 07, 2017, 05:29
Good start to the month of Thursday and Friday. I had a terrible day on Saturday though, but there was a double shadow-transit of Jupiter from Io and Ganymede... so that would explain it. Things seem to be back to normal now.

Sure...but this have an impact only on space related media  ::)
and buyers from Io and Ganymede
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 07, 2017, 08:46
can somebody open the door of conference so buyer can go in hotel and buy photos?
thanks
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: kevinbrine on June 07, 2017, 10:10
Dismal May and so far, June.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 07, 2017, 12:21
i completely agre start of june is appalling despite uploading more than 500 photos, aerial food lifestyle,...nothing new seems sells....only a bunch of classic who are number one in search for popularity for popular destination keeps selling.
ss is the only one who fight to keep the earning coming, but not as expected, dreamstime and fotolia appalling, the rest i not even nominate.
stock is becoming strong second position eroding the difference with ss....what many expected as failure or downhill earning after the merging of esp, is becoming my best performers with best cent per image sold by far, despite some image sold for less than 5cents.

i read somewhere that one cause can be the fact that google search penalize micro stock but not getty and stock. i can see this, with a small portfolio in is i'm doing double compared to dreamstime and fotolia together.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: temis on June 08, 2017, 01:40
I am experiencing the same thing, I am uploading more and more and sell less, most of the photos sold are the old ones. I think with all this bulk pics it is also difficult to choose the best pics for a customer, I hope they will change something or we will ear just some coffee and enthusiam will die out, better doing something different.
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: Noedelhap on June 08, 2017, 04:12
I had a terrible day on Saturday though, but there was a double shadow-transit of Jupiter from Io and Ganymede... so that would explain it.

Don't you have some footage of that to sell?
Title: Re: Is there some kind of a holiday?
Post by: jonbull on June 08, 2017, 04:19
I am experiencing the same thing, I am uploading more and more and sell less, most of the photos sold are the old ones. I think with all this bulk pics it is also difficult to choose the best pics for a customer, I hope they will change something or we will ear just some coffee and enthusiam will die out, better doing something different.


it-s not about being happy...it-s about economy...if they give 40% every month more money, i don't care  they give me 15%...when they gave me 25 i have 50% half earning i had in may compared to may.
fotolia give me the maximum royalty but they not sell nothing,
dreamstime same.

in addiction i-m selling a lot of thinkstock so earning always 0,28 minimum as always similar to a sub to ss.
sure i prefer 25% royalty, but when stock was alone they not sell nothing like fotolia now.
with getty they have big exposure and sell are coming. if you look alexa index getty&istock is ranked higher than any other micro, that-s why they sell more in this moment.