Author Topic: Is this for real? (Read 8444 times)

Stu99 · « **on:** February 05, 2009, 11:16 »

I got the following message today through my facebook account and need some advice from the experienced folk on MSG:

Sincerely,

We found your photo ID 9713761 on Shutterstock, and we are very interested to buy it for our client for an TV commercial in Croatia, but only for us, like no one can use it in the world except us
for a year? And of curse, we would like to know how much it will cost us
in that case..

Please send me your answer quick as you can.

For any further questions please be free to contact me.

Thank you in advance, best
Ivana Sudar
Production and Event Account

Euro RSCG Zagreb / Unex Group
Ilica 26, 10000 Zagreb
T + 385 (0) 1 4888 800 [centrala]
T + 385 (0) 1 4888 825 [direktni]
F + 385 (0) 1 4888 890
M + 385 (0) 99 3177 594
E [email protected]
W www.unex.hr

Do you think this is for real and if I was to reply what $ would you suggest?

The image is nothing special however it has been for sale an multiple sites for nearly a year:

Thanks

Stu

Pixart · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:26 »

If it has been for sale for a year then you should be able to remove it then from BS and others?

I'd look into it, I would expect that you should make more on this image than you would on micro in the 12 months restriction period.

They appear to be quite a legit enterprize, look at their key accounts page.

dirkr · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:33 »

If it's been sold before under a RF licence you can't give them what they want - that nobody else can use that image within the next year.
Anyone having bought it before might use it.
If they accept that restriction, than go for it. No idea about the right price though, but don't go too low, if they go through the effort of contacting you personally than they probably do not care about a few dollars...

Stu99 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2009, 11:39 »

Thanks Dirkr and Pixart :-)

I sent them a note explaining that it has sold many times over the last year and I couldn't guarantee that it won't be used for a project later this year. Also, it may take several months to disappear off affiliated websites such as Photos.com through StockXpert.

I am surprised that they tracked me down using my name and found and contacted me on Facebook for what I consider a very un-unique image??

Which is why I am a bit suspicious

Stu

jayreilly · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2009, 14:15 »

if he wants an exclusive rate, better it give it to him. but you also gotta ask if the images was downloaded by anyone previous to this request...because if it has, then your out of luck.

tan510jomast · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2009, 14:26 »

usually, since it is a SS image, i would think they would contact you via SS.
however, if the contact infos, .........
Ivana Sudar
Production and Event Account Euro RSCG Zagreb / Unex Group
Ilica 26, 10000 Zagreb
T + 385 (0) 1 4888 800 [centrala]
T + 385 (0) 1 4888 825 [direktni]
F + 385 (0) 1 4888 890
M + 385 (0) 99 3177 594
E [email protected]
W www.unex.hr...............
are not readily available on their site, then i suppose you can say it is likely to be real. of course, you could try writing them at their official site to ask them if it was really them who wrote you.
i wish you all the best, and that the offer is not a facebook prank.

dbajurin · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2009, 14:36 »

It is marketing agency owned by biggest regional food company Agrokor aka Konzum. For them, priority is that you don't sell that image in future so that their competitors can't have the same image, and that is all. I am from croatia, and I think you should take a chance and make an offer. If they accept than remove your picture from stock agencies but make a notice to them that image has sold before as RF and that all.

EDIT: Yes, infos are correct. Name, Company, adress and your image will be probably use for Konzum (www.konzum.hr). Don't be to cheap when you send your offer. If they want to shoot such picture expenses will be around 400-500$.

leaf · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2009, 15:19 »

To give you an idea for price, you could go to alamy and click on a rights managed image and then price out what the cost of it would be for one year world wide exclusive.

Stu99 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2009, 15:35 »

Thanks guys this is really useful information.

tan510jomast, I hope this isn't a facebook prank, but it seems unlikely they would go to the effort of finding the owner of an image on SS probably through Google and then constructing an email of interest. Hopefully

Leaf - going through Alamy the price came out at $2,200 which I think is a little high because it would be cheaper to hire someone to take and edit such a simple shot.

As long as they are happy with the fact that it may pop up somewhere because of an old sale, but I think dbajurin makes a really good point about restricting use by competitors.

I guess they are taking this direct approach to avoid the 'middle man' expenses and getting an far cheaper than going through a RM agency. I was thinking about $400 max to remove this image from all sites and give them exclusivity for 12 months.

Thanks

Stu

Peter · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2009, 15:41 »

If I were you, I would screw them up. Sold image for big money, with promise that I will remove it from microstock, and when I get the money, I would continue to sell it, what can they do? Just dont sign any agreement. LOL!

(Just joking

)

dont give it under 200$

Stu99 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2009, 16:06 »

Quote from: Peter on February 05, 2009, 15:41

If I were you, I would screw them up. Sold image for big money, with promise that I will remove it from microstock, and when I get the money, I would continue to sell it, what can they do? Just dont sign any agreement. LOL!

(Just joking )

dont give it under 200$

Peter you are so bad

tan510jomast · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2009, 16:18 »

Quote from: Stu99 on February 05, 2009, 15:35

Thanks guys this is really useful information.

tan510jomast, I hope this isn't a facebook prank, but it seems unlikely they would go to the effort of finding the owner of an image on SS probably through Google and then constructing an email of interest. Hopefully

Leaf - going through Alamy the price came out at $2,200 which I think is a little high because it would be cheaper to hire someone to take and edit such a simple shot.

As long as they are happy with the fact that it may pop up somewhere because of an old sale, but I think dbajurin makes a really good point about restricting use by competitors.

I guess they are taking this direct approach to avoid the 'middle man' expenses and getting an far cheaper than going through a RM agency. I was thinking about $400 max to remove this image from all sites and give them exclusivity for 12 months.

Thanks

Stu

Stu, so far it looks legit. so i am glad for you.
and since it removes the middle man, you could ask for 50% less. and still get something worthwhile.
hope it all turns out fine for you.

dbajurin · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:29 »

Hi Stu,

I see that you make agreement for this image because there are your images on billboards all over the city. I hope you make a good deal

Btw, image is used for PIK food company as part of Agrokor (maybe they put your image on web www.pik-vrbovec.hr soon)

qwerty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:36 »

As it would be easy to reshoot I would offer a "new and better version" that hasn't been sold RF yet.

And you could write the cost of the steak off on your tax and enjoy a nice dinner.

borg · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:33 »

I am also from Croatia...

I think also that is "Agrokor company" or some of their daughter companies...

You should listen dbajurin's advice...

That is the biggest food company in this part of Europe...

Very honest in the businees...

If you have open account on DT,you could give them link where they can buy this picture with SR-EL right, then delete this picture from other sites...

Microbius · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:41 »

Quote from: dbajurin on February 14, 2009, 09:29

Hi Stu,

I see that you make agreement for this image because there are your images on billboards all over the city. I hope you make a good deal

Btw, image is used for PIK food company as part of Agrokor (maybe they put your image on web www.pik-vrbovec.hr soon)

wow that's cool. It would be great to find out what you agreed on in the end.

borg · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2009, 14:13 »

Yesterday I saw this picture on billboard and TV ADS.

PIK Vrbovec

Ssuper · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2009, 16:41 »

I have a similar image...should I submit to them also and see if they like mine better ?

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