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« on: August 24, 2018, 06:59 »
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dpimborough

« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 07:48 »
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Whats your point?  ???

Or are you Harsh Trivedi desparately trying to drum up sales for those poorly executed images?  ::)

« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 08:16 »
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Is this the road where SS will go ..?

Obviously not, no similar images to see, this contributor is niche.

PZF

« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 08:29 »
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If you mean the quality of images accepted then yes, I fear it has already gone there though I am not sure you should just pick on that particular person. There are many.
It used to be an achievement getting into SS. Now.......
:(

nobody

« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 08:58 »
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sadly, the road of where SS will go is already too late for us to turn around.  :-\

« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2018, 09:10 »
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New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject these pics is because they probably sell.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2018, 09:15 by alexandersr »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2018, 09:15 »
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New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...

« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 09:20 »
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New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we dont know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.

« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 16:14 »
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New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we dont know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.

I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2018, 19:46 »
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The only rejections now seem to be for editorial caption or a faulty model release.  I havent seen or heard of a single technical rejection of any image for a long time and looking at a lot of the people on the forum with "why arent my photos selling" who have awful ones i dont think they do.
Its possible they're using AI to review captions and maybe even releases but i can't see any sort of human intervention on images any more.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2018, 10:58 »
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I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)

« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2018, 01:01 »
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I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2018, 16:53 »
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I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..

When I started, I took some really nasty crapstock. Of course back then, Upload on Thursday, accepted by Tuesday, sales by the end of the week. Maybe I could upload them as Blurred Background?  ;)

I had most of them accepted at places like 123, BS, Panther, Lucky Oliver, the small sites, at which time I thought "OK I have an idea, I'll upload to FT, IS and SS"

Ha Ha, rejected, nearly all. I had to take the test again for SS, but passed once I realized sharp, good contrast, clean, focused. Plus (another back then) downsized and submitted a variety of shots and styles. Passed in a breeze.

The second part isn't about quality but content, and I don't need to waste time on filler, to make numbers, if they won't every sell. I have a good collection of those too.

So when I actually do find something old, if it might have potential, based on content, I'll consider that. If it's something that's destined to languish everywhere, never sell, because of a poor choice of subject, I let it die.  :)

Numbers don't mean anything anymore. Besides I used to only upload one or two of any idea, rarely more. There are some old timers who have 800 of the same shot, with different backgrounds. Oh boy, and wonder why sales per image aren't any good?

« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2018, 17:37 »
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I'm thinking so ... they used to reject a fair load of my stuff but, I'm thinking I should just dump my whole library on them and let them figure it out. lol.

Go through and see what of your old rejects might have some potential, upload them now. I did a small number, and one actually has sales. The rest  were so bad, they turned my stomach and I couldn't do that to make my portfolio more  embarrassing. LOL  :)
I did that but simply threw the lot against the wall to see what stuck 90% accepted and pretty reasonable sales..

When I started, I took some really nasty crapstock. Of course back then, Upload on Thursday, accepted by Tuesday, sales by the end of the week. Maybe I could upload them as Blurred Background?  ;)

I had most of them accepted at places like 123, BS, Panther, Lucky Oliver, the small sites, at which time I thought "OK I have an idea, I'll upload to FT, IS and SS"

Ha Ha, rejected, nearly all. I had to take the test again for SS, but passed once I realized sharp, good contrast, clean, focused. Plus (another back then) downsized and submitted a variety of shots and styles. Passed in a breeze.

The second part isn't about quality but content, and I don't need to waste time on filler, to make numbers, if they won't every sell. I have a good collection of those too.

So when I actually do find something old, if it might have potential, based on content, I'll consider that. If it's something that's destined to languish everywhere, never sell, because of a poor choice of subject, I let it die.  :)

Numbers don't mean anything anymore. Besides I used to only upload one or two of any idea, rarely more. There are some old timers who have 800 of the same shot, with different backgrounds. Oh boy, and wonder why sales per image aren't any good?
IS were really really tough but I learnt a huge amount from those frustrating rejections....people new to the game learn nothing now and just wonder why their images aren't selling even though the sites seem to welcome them with open arms and tales of how they will earn big money.

« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2018, 00:34 »
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I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 09:59 »
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I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.

Deposit Photo did that, ask most of the people who bought into the agency. There are a few who are making something and happy, many more who left.

Better yet, go read the Deposit Photos area here.

« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2018, 10:12 »
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I'm waiting for the next exciting thing : pay for upload.

Deposit Photo did that, ask most of the people who bought into the agency. There are a few who are making something and happy, many more who left.

Better yet, go read the Deposit Photos area here.

I was thinking about a kind of  premium access  which would promise better exposure in search results...

I let you imagine the newsletter we would read...full of  exciting  words.


« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2018, 09:22 »
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I havent seen or heard of a single technical rejection of any image for a long time

Just recently, I actually got an exposure rejection on SS. I couldn't believe my eyes!

derek

    This user is banned.
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2018, 09:39 »
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New contributor:

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/harshtrivedi298
Are you afraid because HarshTrivedi298 is a strong competitor for you?
In other hands, if SS control quality don't reject this pics is because they probably sell.
Or maybe the  OP has done an experiment to show that they're not controlling quality.
Or maybe they're making the point that if you pay peanuts, you'll get ...
I think the second one is the most accurate. Because we dont know the meaning of quality for SS. Their parameters of quality. Some people say they use AI for review pics, no human reviewers.


Exactly!!  poor imagery can sell as well as great images! and thats the platform SS i built upon!..fair enough I believe SS are losing serious contributors or simply not uploading anymore. I myself have removed more pics then todays port of just 2400 images and dont upload until I see new images selling.

The SS platform is built upon that contributors could be replaced within minutes, newbies applying all the time and thousands of them all thinking to get rich over night and free lunches.
As far as SS no one is infallible and everyone is expendible!  of course so is their company!

« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2018, 11:37 »
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I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

derek

    This user is banned.
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 13:39 »
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I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2018, 16:38 »
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I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)
« Last Edit: September 05, 2018, 16:45 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2018, 20:30 »
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For a long time, contributors on SS have been commenting that hardly any new images have been selling and it's mainly old photos that sell. My experiences weren't quite the same. I generally sell a mix of old and new. However recently, things have started to change a little for me. I'm starting to get less sales on new photos and more sales on old photos.

derek

    This user is banned.
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2018, 06:50 »
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I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

Maybe you know something we dont??? ;D ;D

Yep, he knows what sells and you don't. As simple as that!  :P

If it helps, here are my answers to the above points:
1. I DON'T
2. I DO
3. Not really
4. I DO (~86%)


Wow mate!!  got to hand it to you! youre in a different league to the rest of us ::)  youre not from Ukraine or Moldova by any chance are you?

angelawaye

  • Eat, Sleep, Keyword. Repeat

« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2018, 09:03 »
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I sometimes wonder if I am selling to a different SS than the rest of you whiners...?

1) I DO get rejections of submissions. Not a lot, but then I don't put up a lot of junk either.  My last batch of 126 images had 9 rejections today (all for "main subject not in focus" or "noise" -- a couple were a bit crunchy...).

2) I DO get sales on new images.  I uploaded a batch of Namibia photos last week of lions, elephants, and the like.  I had 21 sold from that batch just in the last 2 days.

3) My sales DO drop every summer. August is always bad for me. But then it roars back in September and is good the rest of the year.

4) I DO sell most of my portfolio.  Two months ago, I had 2500 images in my portfolio. According to MicroStokr Pro, 1729 of those images have had sales.  (I added another 1000+ in the last 2 months, as I went back and added stuff I had overlooked in my older stuff on my disk -- and yes, those are starting to sell too)

May I ask when you started? Are you in the .38 cent club?


 

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