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Title: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on March 16, 2017, 06:44
Posted in another section but wanted to get everyones opinion on it:

So I got invited to register as a contributor to this website, I wondered if anyone has tried it?
here's a link I was sent by one of their staff: http://www.flashstock.com/kit (http://www.flashstock.com/kit)


I don't usually take on paid assignments from clients like this. It looks like they send you briefs to shoot for brands social media accounts, and your images are used on their instagram etc. Looks like they have some big names signed up which is cool, some food and drinks brands and airlines, and looks like you are guaranteed the fee which is nice.


An extra money maker on top of shooting stock? or is this the future and will we see traditional stock decline?

It seems legit, but I don't think it will be popular with traditional stock photographers as you need to be quite flexible to shoot this, and you have to have a broad skillset.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: skyfish on March 16, 2017, 08:43
IMHO mostly it is not about skillset, but about all types of expenses behind the work which you, photographer, can throw in hope that something will be "approved". Only photographer is a loser in such chain, not paid models, stylists, equipment suppliers, location, middleman etc etc etc. Only a photographer.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Pauws99 on March 16, 2017, 09:16
IMHO mostly it is not about skillset, but about all types of expenses behind the work which you, photographer, can throw in hope that something will be "approved". Only photographer is a loser in such chain, not paid models, stylists, equipment suppliers, location, middleman etc etc etc. Only a photographer.
Yes it does appear the photographer bears all the risk if the photos are not used and as I read it the "brief" is sent to a number of photographers. I suppose in the same way stock  is a speculative shoot   but it depends if the shoot might be generic enough to repackage and what you are entitled to sell if say only one of your 100 pics are "approved".
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: skyfish on March 16, 2017, 09:22
If it was clearly shot for a brand, then recovery of expenses by selling photos depends from their good will. If they don't state that clearly, then you are in a situation.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on March 21, 2017, 13:18
I've taken the plunge and signed up, I think you are wrong though from what I have gathered from the site they set you a specific number of images they want you to shoot and then you have to deliver those images, I would be surprised if they rejected all your images as then they would not have anything to send to the client, I guess if your photos are bad they would reject them.

As Pauws99 mentioned, its just the same risk as stock photography except here at least you have a buyer ready to purchase them,

I am starting to warm to the concept
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 21, 2017, 16:54
Not enough details, and I'm not giving my info to see a demo video.  Sounds like imageBrief though.  I don't see anything that doesn't say they don't give the brief to a hundred people.  Then they "curate" it.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on March 22, 2017, 05:36
Not enough details, and I'm not giving my info to see a demo video.  Sounds like imageBrief though.  I don't see anything that doesn't say they don't give the brief to a hundred people.  Then they "curate" it.

I think the demo is for clients Sean, not photographers,  :-\  I'm signed up so I'll let you know how my first job goes

Do you use Imagebrief? have you ever sold anything through imagebrief?
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 22, 2017, 06:18
Well the link to the demo is on the contributor page, so I assumed it would be of some use.

After a few attempts at imageBrief, I realized it wasn't worth the effort, as did pretty much everyone here.  Briefs don't close, clients go in a completely different direction despite detailed initial request, etc.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: namussi on March 23, 2017, 09:20
Is this website the future of branded Stock?

I quote the journalist Andrew Marr:

If the headline asks a question, try answering 'no'. Is This the True Face of Britain's Young? (Sensible reader: No.) Have We Found the Cure for AIDS? (No; or you wouldn't have put the question mark in.) Does This Map Provide the Key for Peace? (Probably not.) A headline with a question mark at the end means, in the vast majority of cases, that the story is tendentious or over-sold. It is often a scare story, or an attempt to elevate some run-of-the-mill piece of reporting into a national controversy and, preferably, a national panic. To a busy journalist hunting for real information a question mark means 'don't bother reading this bit'.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on March 28, 2017, 12:04
Ha, nice quote, love Andrew Marr, my journalism days are over, I wonder if I saw a similar headline and it was an unconscious thing



Is this website the future of branded Stock?

I quote the journalist Andrew Marr:

If the headline asks a question, try answering 'no'. Is This the True Face of Britain's Young? (Sensible reader: No.) Have We Found the Cure for AIDS? (No; or you wouldn't have put the question mark in.) Does This Map Provide the Key for Peace? (Probably not.) A headline with a question mark at the end means, in the vast majority of cases, that the story is tendentious or over-sold. It is often a scare story, or an attempt to elevate some run-of-the-mill piece of reporting into a national controversy and, preferably, a national panic. To a busy journalist hunting for real information a question mark means 'don't bother reading this bit'.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on March 28, 2017, 12:06
Ok so I signed up and have been sent a couple of tasks, doing a shoot for Absolut vodka for them this weekend, and have put myself forward for a Listerine GIF, not created a GIF before but it looks easy, I guess.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 28, 2017, 12:11
Ok so I signed up and have been sent a couple of tasks, doing a shoot for Absolut vodka for them this weekend, and have put myself forward for a Listerine GIF, not created a GIF before but it looks easy, I guess.

Are you actually "doing a shoot for Absolut", or are you one of many doing a spec shoot that includes Absolut?
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Deformat on April 04, 2017, 08:08
Ok so I signed up and have been sent a couple of tasks, doing a shoot for Absolut vodka for them this weekend, and have put myself forward for a Listerine GIF, not created a GIF before but it looks easy, I guess.

Are you actually "doing a shoot for Absolut", or are you one of many doing a spec shoot that includes Absolut?

Yep, I was one of four photographers hired to shoot for absolut, contract in place and agreed fee and expenses before I shot anything, they posted the product to my studio, I just needed to organise it and make sure my shots we're good. This site has changed my view on things.

Borrowed a friend's apartment to do the shoot and paid a few friends from the budget to come over and pretend it was a party atmosphere. took about 2hours to shoot and we all had a drink at the end. Getting paid end of the week.

Enjoyed the challenge and I used to do similar stuff for stock, except it would then take 12 months to recoup the costs, was pretty cool shooting for a big brand and getting my name out there, and all the free vodka was a bonus  ;).

Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on April 04, 2017, 09:55
Interesting.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: S. on May 08, 2017, 20:04
Just got accepted in their "preferred tier of contributors", whatever it means.
Let's see how it goes. It definitely looks interesting.
Title: Re: Is this website the future of branded Stock? (flashstock.com)
Post by: angelawaye on May 09, 2017, 12:53
That is awesome! Good for you and well deserved :)