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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2008, 17:24 »
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Reminds me of Through The Looking Glass.

As The Red Queen said to Alice: "You must run as fast as you possibly can to just stand still.  If you want to actually get somewhere, you'll need to run twice as fast."  Not a word-for-word quote, but close enough.

Same thing seems to apply to uploading images.


« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2008, 18:31 »
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I'm not convinved that there is an increasing 'bias towards exclusives'.  Yes, of course the exclusives are going to get preferential treatment, and they deserve to do so.

The 'disappointments' expressed by Yuri and Lisa and others, with stagnant or declining sales and income, is probably nothing other than 'dilution'.

Istock's library has increased in size by 100% over the past year.  Any photographer who has NOT increased their portfolio by the same percentage will be getting reduced exposure.

Lisa, you say you've increased your portfolio by 50%, so it's axiomatic that your exposure is diluted by 25% which is very close to your reduction in sales.  With 1 million new images being added each year, you are going to have to add 1,000 pictures in the coming year just to 'stand still'.

The same goes for all of us.  Of course it is easier to keep a small portfolio 'ahead of the game', but with a large portfolio it is possible to reach a point where sales and income simply cannot 'grow'.

This dilution effect defines the maximum revenue available to any contributor.

I follow Hidesy's portfolio with interest simply because I have met her and her advice prompted me to start contributing to microstock a year ago; her portfolio has increased from 7,000 images to 10,000 over the last year but her monthly downloads have not improved (and appear to be in decline), so even a black diamond exclusive will hit a ceiling eventually.

This, incidentally, is also probably why Yuri's income has stopped increasing.



I agree with your points here.  Exclusives can upload a lot more than non-exclusives, so there are probably lots more exclusive images on istock and it is no surprise that these come up in the search.

Does anyone know the ratio of exclusive to non-exclusive images on istock?

I wonder if some buyers will try and by from exclusives first out of loyalty to istock, or perhaps because they have more idea how many times an image has sold?

The dilution effect is probably greater with some common subjects, like business people photos, as there are so many of them and a lot of the poses are repeated many times.

The way to increase sales is to keep coming up with original and popular ideas.  This gets more difficult as a portfolio gets bigger.  I had lots of good ideas when my portfolio was 100 images but it is harder to think of new things with 1,000 images.

« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2008, 18:34 »
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Lower than most people think, sharpshot.  The last 'official' numbers I saw were that 28% of photographers are exclusive, and 40% of content.  In other words 60% of content is non-exclusive.

« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2008, 18:53 »
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With Getty for sale to the highest bidder, and in a bear market, it remains to be seen where their "vision" will be going in the future ....  I ..  think it is the worst possible time to be considering exclusivity there.

Exclusivity isn't some great all or nothing commitment. Uploading a single image to DT is a bigger commitment.

I upload Adobe 98 images to iStock using only CV root tags. But my collection exists simultaneously as psds and tiffs in the larger  ProPhoto gamut and tagged in the metadata using old fashioned (as many terms as you can think of) non cv keywording.

I estimate that it would take me a couple of weeks  after exclusivity ended to get the bulk of my slightly less than 2000 images uploaded to a handful of the copycat microstocks if anything ever went wrong at iStock. Outputting them as sRGB files keyworded the old fashioned way would be as simple as running a Photoshop action. Some of them would get rejected but the majority of my collection would be back online across the various me-too microstocks (if they even all still exist by then).

That said - I really like iStock and i hope that I never feel like wanting to not be exclusive again. If I ever do go - I expect that lots of the well known names will have gone well before I do.

« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2008, 22:14 »
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Exclusivity at iStock just does not make any sense, we triple our income by being on the othersites which give a much better commission than iStock. Featurepices for one can earn us as much as iStock with a 5th of the downloads as iStock. Lets face it until iStock is willing to give a min. 50% commission why bother.....


 

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