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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2012, 17:55 »
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 :) IS Exclusive, BME, last BME was May 2010.

$ +40% over Jan 2011

ETA: January has never been one of my best months. At best, it has usually been an average to below average month each year. This has me excited for the rest of the year.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 17:58 by adamkaz »


lisafx

« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2012, 18:02 »
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Not trying to persuade you to become exclusive


Well thank God for that! ;)

« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2012, 18:39 »
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I really don't understand why I have to go over this every month with some exclusive or other, trying to persuade me to go exclusive with Istock. ???

I have to say, I was tempted to start a facetious thread congratulating you on your decision to finally go exclusive after many years on the fence. Maybe, next month. ;D 

« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2012, 19:16 »
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Revenue up 24% over January, 2011. Up 14% over December, 2011. BMEs at SS and 123RF.
(Where I'm coming from: I do illustrations. I submit to 13 sites. Have been submitting about 40% less than in the same quarter last year.)

« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2012, 19:49 »
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01.201201.2011RPD 01.2012RPD 01.2011
fotolia 30% 21% +9 1,42$ 1,79$ -0,37$
shutterstock 26% 25% +1 0,55$ 0,57$ -0,02$
dreamstime 17% 13% +4 2,59$ 2,46$ +0,13$
istock 9% 28% -19 2,42$ 2,82$ -0,40$
canstock 8% 8% +0 2,10$ 2,37$ -0,27$
bigstock 5% 2% +3 2,03$ 1,47$ +0,56$
123rf 3% 1% +2 0,75$ 0,70$ +0,05$
glstock 1% 3,81$
yay 1% 1% +0 6,36$ 3,23$ +3,14$
veer 1% 2% -1 0,63$ 2,45$ -1,82$
alltogether1,12$1,30$-0,18$

In January 2012 I had nearly the same download numbers as January 2011.
Cause of big comission cut at fotolia and istock, I got 14% less money in microstock.
But ok, I made not more than a handful of illustrations for stock in 2011 and can pay my bills.
I am an independent illustrator! and sold yesterday a non-stock-license!
So my totally January "RPD" was much better !  ;D

RacePhoto

« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2012, 06:22 »
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^^^ Are you serious?



I think that covered it perfectly. The rest of the reasons were just frosting on that cake... 

« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2012, 07:13 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2012, 07:38 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2012, 07:53 »
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Lisa FWIW I'm also not trying to convert you - although I have often looked at the stats and wondered how much the decision to remain independent has cost in $$ over the years. None of us really know what the future holds, and the problem with this system is that there's no way of knowing which way is the better until after you've taken a very serious decision. Even then a few shifts in the best match and it can make a massive difference to the end result.  

So an approximation of my stats for the month (based on TS & Getty income being equal to December)

Compared to Dec 2011:
$$ -7%
DLs  -1%
 
Compared to Jan 2011:
$$ +138%
Dls + 71%
(portfolio +106%)

I also had 2 footage sales this month on each of Pond 5 and SS, so its nice that those are starting to tick over a little bit.

« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2012, 09:56 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011.  The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud.   So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers". 

I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives. 

lisafx

« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2012, 09:57 »
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I really don't understand why I have to go over this every month with some exclusive or other, trying to persuade me to go exclusive with Istock. ???

I have to say, I was tempted to start a facetious thread congratulating you on your decision to finally go exclusive after many years on the fence. Maybe, next month. ;D 

ROFL!!  Thanks for starting my day off with a great laugh Cory :D

« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2012, 10:35 »
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Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011.  The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud.   So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers". 

I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives. 


That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=286152&page=1

When Istock had '70% market share' exclusivity didn't exist as an option (as Shutterstock hadn't opened it's doors) and everyone was on 20%. When they did introduce it and you had sold 25K licenses to qualify for 40% commissions then Istock's share of most independents' earnings was very much lower (35% in my case in June 2007). Thankfully exclusivity was never quite attractive enough financially.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2012, 10:54 »
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When Istock had '70% market share' exclusivity didn't exist as an option (as Shutterstock hadn't opened it's doors) and everyone was on 20%. When they did introduce it and you had sold 25K licenses to qualify for 40% commissions then Istock's share of most independents' earnings was very much lower (35% in my case in June 2007).

Can you run that arithmetic past me again?
Are you saying that as an indy, you were getting 65% in June 2007? (from ..."IStock's share of most indies earnings was much lower, 35% in my case...")

« Reply #63 on: February 02, 2012, 11:03 »
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;

It's applicable to me.  I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.

« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2012, 11:05 »
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;

It's applicable to me.  I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.

How many in December?

« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2012, 11:12 »
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153.

wut

« Reply #66 on: February 02, 2012, 11:13 »
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That's because the fraud issue mostly 'jacked up' the stat's for December, not January, whilst Istock's HQ was shut down for Xmas. See here;

It's applicable to me.  I had almost 500 fraudulent downloads in January 2011.

That's an unimaginable rip off :o

BTW has anyone ever heard of a refund at SS? Of course no one in his right mind would demand it for a sub DL, I had ODs, SODs and ELs in mind


« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2012, 11:33 »
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153.

You're right. I only had about 20 all of which were in January. It was only about 2% of my sales and 3% of my earnings over the month though. In the context of the spectacular crash since it hardly registers as a blip.

« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2012, 12:16 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

Its also funny how only Sean reminded people of the huge fraud that jacked up stats for jan 2011.  The bigger the contributor the bigger the fraud.   So, you can knock of a good % reported as decline as what it really was "inflated numbers". 

I am staggered that some indies never went exclusive when IS held 70% market share and paid out double to exclusives. 

My figures are correct.

Most of my fraud took place on Boxing Day ($2.5k!!) and over the Xmas holiday period before January.

« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2012, 12:19 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.

It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.

Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.

michealo

« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2012, 12:25 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.

It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.

Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.

might be worth asking any one can they do something programmatically through the API

providing an xml file with the file id, title, description and keywords

lagereek

« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2012, 12:35 »
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And we think us microstockers earns money?  get this then,  cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?

« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2012, 12:44 »
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iStock exclusive.

Compared to January 2011:

DL -42.2%
$ -19.8%

Compared to January 2010:

DL -57.8%
$ -11.7%

I don't track how many images I create each year, but I guess it's about 1500 to 2000. Current portfolio size 8000.

^^^ I'm staggered how many contributors with mature portfolios, both exclusive and independent, are reporting a decline in sales of 40-50% over the year. That's huge and it's difficult to believe that the slack is all being taken up by newbies with growing portfolios. If that pattern continues for much longer ... it really will be unsustainable.

Have you made a decision at what point you will pull the plug on exclusivity?

Probably long after I should have, desperately hoping someone at iStock will see sense and make it worthwhile to remain.

It's a big job adding all the metadata to my portfolio but I've started it.

Assuming I'll pretty much destroy my income for a year when I'm forced to jump means I have to save up enough to cover that period.

might be worth asking any one can they do something programmatically through the API

providing an xml file with the file id, title, description and keywords

I did think of that and you don't need access to the api since all the data is in DeepMeta which can export a CSV.

Unfortunately the flaw in that plan is that my images aren't tagged with the iStock image number or exactly the same title so you can't automate the process. That'll learn me for not adding the metadata in LR at creation time.

« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2012, 13:53 »
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And we think us microstockers earns money?  get this then,  cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?

Macro RM ?

lagereek

« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2012, 14:47 »
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And we think us microstockers earns money?  get this then,  cant mention his name but this guy during january earned himself a cool, 28K and apparently he does that every month of the year. not bad hey?

Macro RM ?

Yep!


 

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