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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2013, 00:57 »
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there are far too many self-appointed "artists" nowadays and very few serious buyers, the supply/demand ratio is incredibly unbalanced.

That summarizes it quite well.


« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2013, 05:02 »
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there are far too many self-appointed "artists" nowadays and very few serious buyers, the supply/demand ratio is incredibly unbalanced.

That summarizes it quite well.

well, buyers want value for money, but there's very little value in most of the stuff we see on FB, instagram, flickr, twitter ... no matter if the "artists" think otherwise.

if nobody is buying that cr-ap it means its value is zero and artists will make no money with that and therefore they're just hobbyists at best, that's the moral of the story.

they would be worthless snapshots even without all the filters and photoshopping, the same cr-ap was being shot when i was a kid with polaroids and no one ever dreamed it could have any market value.

for whatever silly reason now "retro" is fashionable but it's just a fad and it won't last long, i mean the only ones raving about it are the artists and the art galleries so there's an obvious conflict of interest.





« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2013, 05:24 »
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I do find it funny that I used a Lomo and Lubitel camera in the 80's, when they were dirt cheap but now they cost a lot and are still as bad as they were then.  I don't think its a fad though.  I've seen images in use that have that Lomo look for many years now.  Things like cross processing were being used for commercial work decades ago.  Can't get more retro than black and white and that's never really gone out of fashion.

« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2013, 21:17 »
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I do find it funny that I used a Lomo and Lubitel camera in the 80's, when they were dirt cheap but now they cost a lot and are still as bad as they were then.  I don't think its a fad though.  I've seen images in use that have that Lomo look for many years now.  Things like cross processing were being used for commercial work decades ago.  Can't get more retro than black and white and that's never really gone out of fashion.

the sad thing is that young people love Retro because they're too young to remember old cameras and old computers, for us old farts it's nothing exciting, romantic maybe, but nothing new at all.

and why using cr-appy old gear when you can easily simulate it with PS ?

yeah i know, the vintage feeling of having old gear in your hands, like playing a vintage synth instead of a plastic modern one with USB and all.

but in the end it's old and obsolete and their place is in museums.
it would make more sense to see young people switch to medium formats using film instead of Polaroids, just my opinion of course.

what's all the fuss with polaroid and iphones ? to me it just looks like sh-it honestly.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2013, 21:00 »
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Picfair launches July 2013. How's it going? Did anyone figure out the licensing or terms yet?  ???

It was like a wounded cow walking into the stream on another site, when someone announced they made their first sale for $16. My goodness, the piranhas are ready to take a bite of anything, they are so hungry.

So someone, anyone, Bueller... how's Picfair doing? You know it's the "Next Big Thing".

« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2013, 21:21 »
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had my 1st and only sale a few weeks ago, Benji is a down to earth cool guy, not much I can say beside that :)

Ron

« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2013, 02:26 »
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Picfair launches July 2013. How's it going? Did anyone figure out the licensing or terms yet?  ???

It was like a wounded cow walking into the stream on another site, when someone announced they made their first sale for $16. My goodness, the piranhas are ready to take a bite of anything, they are so hungry.

So someone, anyone, Bueller... how's Picfair doing? You know it's the "Next Big Thing".
One person congratulated him, and another, me, asked if there were more sales. I dont think it was anything like you said it was. Or I a missing something.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2013, 07:11 »
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Like the crowd around a patent medicine salesman pitching their wares. It breeds interest. Hey look, someone bought a bottle. Look it must work, someone made a sale. Wow, this could be the next big thing.

People bought into the site for the discount. Has anything gone live, including the Beta?

Sure he might be a very nice guy. This is about business, not being nice. Deliver the product, not promises.

Ever throw pieces of dried bread into a pond? What happens? A swarm of little fish peck away at it, all rushing for any tidbit they can grab, before the others. Do you see the big fish in that picture? Nope, they eat the little fish for lunch and can't be bothered chasing at every new little bit of food that falls into the water.

New Agency! The flags go up, the forums buzz, people rush to sign up and upload their collections.

So tell me, how's this place doing? Are they selling anything? Does it fulfill it's claims and promises?

For that matter, how's Scoopshot doing? Anyone Foaping? Is there some kind of trend here that should be educational? What did people make on Scoopt before it went dark?  LOL


Picfair launches July 2013. How's it going? Did anyone figure out the licensing or terms yet?  ???

It was like a wounded cow walking into the stream on another site, when someone announced they made their first sale for $16. My goodness, the piranhas are ready to take a bite of anything, they are so hungry.

So someone, anyone, Bueller... how's Picfair doing? You know it's the "Next Big Thing".
One person congratulated him, and another, me, asked if there were more sales. I dont think it was anything like you said it was. Or I a missing something.

Dan

« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2013, 12:58 »
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I've  cashed  out  120.00.  Maybe  end  of  december  will  cash  out  again.  So  pretty  good  sales  (at  least  for  now).

« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2013, 13:00 »
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holy cow! for real? how many different pictures have you sold?

« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2013, 14:13 »
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I uploaded right after their announcement a few months ago about 100 images and priced them between 10-20.  Didn't get too much action first, then about 50 of them were "starred" which lead to higher view count and produced in total over 800 views, but still no sales.

Some images (not mine) that are offered there for a 1 or 2 show hundreds of views and maybe they sell,  but it seems to me that site visibility is still the main problem.



Ron

« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2013, 14:22 »
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I've  cashed  out  120.00.  Maybe  end  of  december  will  cash  out  again.  So  pretty  good  sales  (at  least  for  now).
How many images did you sell, at what price and which images from your portfolio if you dont mind me asking.

« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2013, 23:47 »
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Deleted. Sent email.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2013, 19:44 by PhotoGirl »

« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2013, 06:22 »
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write an email to Benji ([email protected]) I am sure he will reply quite fast

Dan

« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2013, 12:56 »
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Ron
Mostly  the  mailbox  and  butterfly  and  the  water sprays.  Each  were  just  a  couple  dollars.  So  about  70  sme  photos.

Ron

« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2013, 13:07 »
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Ron
Mostly  the  mailbox  and  butterfly  and  the  water sprays.  Each  were  just  a  couple  dollars.  So  about  70  sme  photos.
You sold 70 photos? Thats impressive.

« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2013, 08:23 »
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Is the $2.00 image price the success recipe?
Anybody else got any sales there? And at what price level?
« Last Edit: November 01, 2013, 08:38 by LesPalenik »


« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2013, 09:35 »
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I'm trying to figure out the license... Picfair's license is for one use only, not quite RF... does this mean I can upload my Alamy "L" images...

« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2013, 09:41 »
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Is the $2.00 image price the success recipe?
Anybody else got any sales there? And at what price level?

have mine at 5 pounds, 1 sale only!

Ron

« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2013, 09:44 »
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Is the $2.00 image price the success recipe?
Anybody else got any sales there? And at what price level?

have mine at 5 pounds, 1 sale only!
Your images are too good. You need cropped off subjects and tilted horizons to make sales there

« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2013, 09:46 »
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 ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2013, 15:05 »
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Is the $2.00 image price the success recipe?
Anybody else got any sales there? And at what price level?

have mine at 5 pounds, 1 sale only!
Your images are too good. You need cropped off subjects and tilted horizons to make sales there

Thanks for the tip, Ron! And I was worried that it was my own picture in the profile.
Just to see if the price is the main factor on this site, I'll add a set of different pics at lower prices, and will report next year the outcome.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2013, 18:23 by LesPalenik »

« Reply #72 on: November 02, 2013, 09:36 »
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I'm trying to figure out the license... Picfair's license is for one use only, not quite RF... does this mean I can upload my Alamy "L" images...

I was wondering about the license to and just emailed Benji asking if it was an issue uploading images that are RF on the other sites. What are you guys doing? Just uploading your normal microstock (RF) images? Regards, David.

Dan

« Reply #73 on: November 02, 2013, 10:21 »
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Ron
     Actually  it  was  78  pics  sold.  All  but  1  was  $1.00.  It  added  up  to  $120  since  they  started.  Was  gonna  let  it  run  till  last  of  year  but  needed  emergency  money.

« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2013, 06:53 »
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OK, well I signed up yesterday and now have twenty or so images up -all priced at 10 so I'll see how that goes. For anyone interested I wrote a blog post (link below -the photo one not the travel one!) about my initial experience with the site. There's some detailed comment from Benji at the end concerning the points I raised in my post. Worth mentioning here though is that it is not just Editorial licenses being offered (as some have said in this thread) -various commercial uses are also allowed, which I hadn't realised. Regards, David.


 

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