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Title: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: fintastique on July 31, 2008, 02:41
OK July is over so I post my final figures

SS (http://submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=60395) 46.3% BME
DT (http://www.dreamstime.com/resp129469) 16.0% BME*
FT (http://en.fotolia.com/partner/38701) 11.5% BM2008

StockXpert (http://www.stockxpert.com/browse.phtml?f=profile&l=fintastic&ref=fintastic) 6.8% BM2008
IS  (http://www.istockphoto.com/fintastique)   6.4%

123 (http://www.123rf.com/src_fintastique) 5.8%
BS (http://www.bigstockphoto.com/?refid=doyu49fkgQ)   4.6% WM2008

FP (http://www.featurepics.com/Authors/Images.aspx?id=390)   2.8% BME

CanStockPhoto 0.1%

overall BME for microstock

* Highest number of DLs at DT ever but lots of subscriptions.

BME best month ever
BM2008 best month 2008
WM2008 worst month of 2008

Strange how differently the sites performed on the last day of the month some sites virtually no sales but the busiest day of the month at others


Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: faber on August 01, 2008, 00:20
Overall revenue + 5% compared to last month

istock                          35,1%  (worst month of the year)
shutterstock                 23,9% (BME)
dreamstime                   10,1%
stockxpert                     8,6%
shotshop (german)          8,3%
fotolia                           6,5% (BME)
digitalstock (german)       5,1%
123rf                            1,5%

istock took a nosedive, revenue -20% compared to already bad month of June :(
Nice comeback of shutterstock :)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Kngkyle on August 01, 2008, 00:54
Well for the first time in awhile I uploaded some new stuff. So shutterstock got a big boost.

SS: 42% up
StockXpert: 15% up
FT: 12% up
DT: 12% down
IS: 11% up
123RF: 3% down
BigStock: 2% down
Other: 2% down

Overall up about 4.4% over last month, 3rd best this year.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: melastmohican on August 01, 2008, 01:13
Still I got mostly DL on SS:

SS   81.13% BME
StockXpert   7.88% BME
123RF   5.19% BME
DT   3.97% BME
CS   0.72%
FT   0.57%
IS   0.55%
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: DanP68 on August 01, 2008, 01:19
Great month.  After a very slow first 15 days, I uploaded constantly in the second half of the month and pulled out an overall record month.

Total:  $378 (BME)

SS 33%
IS 28%  BME
DT 18%  BME
BigStock 7%  BME
123RF 6%  BME
FT 4%
StockXpert 4%
Other 1%

iStock was quite slow for almost the entire month.  But they delivered me 2 EL's and a flurry of sales in the last 3 days of the month, and that put them into 2nd place with a BME.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: jsnover on August 01, 2008, 01:35
It was a good month, especially for summer, although only at some sites. Overall income this month was up 3% over June and 33% over last July (2007)

IS      29% (up slightly)
SS     26% (up 13% but had 2 ELs)
FT     14% (down 17% -  would have been down 44% were it not for 2 ELs this month)
DT     10% (flat - would have been down 25% without an EL)
StockXpert   10% (up 6%)
BigStock     8%
123     3% (down 41%)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: noam on August 01, 2008, 01:53
BME over all the sites, with 20% increase in overall income.

SS     49%
IS      22%
DT       9%
StockXpert     7%
FT       7%
RF123 3%
BigStock     3%



Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: nile on August 01, 2008, 02:19
My second month in microstock world.
increasing about 100% over the first month.
Mostly SS... I'm not in IS yet  >:(

SS   80,5%
StockXpert 13,3%
DT   4,7%
123 1,5%
FT    0%
FP    0%
YAY  0%
BS    0%


I don't understand the fame of FT... only 2 sales in 2 months.
And I'm waiting the day I will upload the last image to enter IS!!!!
I'll be there with my best seller in SS!!  :o
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: j2k on August 01, 2008, 03:20
Not a bad month, my second best (since March), would have been a lot better, but I uploaded only 10 new photos at the beginning of the month, and that shows especially on Shutterstock.

Shutterstock:  27.3% (down 27%)
IstockPhoto:   37.1% (up 27%) BME
Fotolia:           13.6% BME (thanks to 2 ELs)
Dreamstime:     8.7%  (this site is starting to be consistent for me)
StockXpert:      8.5 %
123RF:              3.2%
BigstockPhoto: 1.7% (no EL's this month, this one is really slow)

Time to upload something :)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: CofkoCof on August 01, 2008, 03:36
Down about 15%, mostly due to the fact that I only uploaded a few files at the beginning of the month (still second BME).

SS 44,84
IS 17,45 BME
StockXpert 13,18
DT 8,49 BME
FT 7,35
123RF 7,02
BigStock 1,68

Other observations:
- lack of uploads really show in SS earnings, down about 30%
- IS is really going in the right direction, love the vector sales
- pretty bad month at fotolia, I think the search engine was changed again
- even though July was first month that was not BME I'm still satisfied with earnings. With almost no work I earned quite a nice sum :D

Have to edit the holiday pics and finish some illustrations.

PS: No earnings poll this month?
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: epixx on August 01, 2008, 04:00
Here are my figures, all compared to July 2007.

Total: Up 31%

SS 29% – down 15%
IS 15% – up 1%
DT 15% – up 82%
FT 14% – up 59%
StockXpert 7% – up 48%
FP 6% – no sales July last year  BME
123 5% – up 193%  BME
BS 4% – up 73%
Cre 2% – up 1600%
Scanstock 1% – up 100%
SV 1% – no sales July last year
Canstock 1% – up 0%

SS is very disappointing, particularly considering their recent increase in payouts. That means that the decline is actually much steeper, but this seems to be the long term trend. DT had a very good last half of July after a disappointing start with many subs. FT is also showing solid performance, but the real winners are 123rf and FP. Particularly FP is interesting, since the sales there have been spread out throughout the month.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Lukasphoto on August 01, 2008, 05:11
My 7th and surprisingly my best month.

SS   46% BME thanks to two EL and despite no new uploads
IS    45%  DLs down 2%, earnings up 12%
123  3.5% BME
StockXpert 3%
SV   2%
DT   0.5% WME
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: DanP68 on August 01, 2008, 05:24

PS: No earnings poll this month?


I just filled out the new earnings poll, and the RPI Statistics.  I don't think results start showing up for the RPI statistics until there are at least 10 entries for an agency.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Mellimage on August 01, 2008, 05:28
2nd worst month this year. However, by far not as bad as I expected. I only uploaded 5 files to SS and less than 10 to FT. Haven't uploaded to IS and DT since April. FT was again my best earner and the new month started with an EL.

Breakdown:
Overall:      -6%

FT: 42,3% (a bit down to June)
IS: 32,6% (down to June)
SS: 18,3% (up from June)
DT: 6,8% (bit down from June)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: CofkoCof on August 01, 2008, 05:37

PS: No earnings poll this month?



I just filled out the new earnings poll, and the RPI Statistics.  I don't think results start showing up for the RPI statistics until there are at least 10 entries for an agency.

I meant the poll about how much we made from stock in July, just like there was one for June:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php/topic,5148.0.html
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: stokfoto on August 01, 2008, 06:43
IS: 41%
FT: 22%
SS:13%
StockXpert:10%
DT:09%
BS:03%
123rf:03%

overall:summer slowdown was obviously there but not as bad as I thought.So I am quite happy with this.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: vphoto on August 01, 2008, 06:58

BME in total


SS    50%
IS     21%
DT    12% BME
FT      5%
123rf   5%
BigStock     4%
StockXpert     2%
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: PixelsAway on August 01, 2008, 12:19
My microstock numbers for July:
http://www.pixelsaway.com/C911796005/E20080801094202/index.html

I had 17% earnings growth in July, but also a major shift between main players: IS went down and SS went up and took the lead.

IS+SS are providing 78% of my income.

I took a week of vacations from microstock in July - paddling, racing and shooting just for fun.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: mwp1969 on August 01, 2008, 12:37
BME for Revenue and close to BME for downloads on a vacation month for myself so I am quite happy  ;D

SS      40%             
DT      25%     BME
FP      22%     BME
BigStock      5%     BME Tied
MP        3%   
123      2%            WME since my first DL there
FT         1%    BME  Tied
StockXpert      .5%


-Mark
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: jsolie on August 01, 2008, 17:37
IS 38.79% (almost a BME)
SS 29.10% (WME)
DT 14.28%
FT 10.58%
123 4.52% (WME)
StockXpert 3.64% (WME)
SV 2.78% (BME)
BigStock 2.14% (tied another WME month)
CS 1.43%
CanStockPhoto 1.07%
FP, MP, SR & YAY: 0.00%

Overall, sales in July were 19.7% lower than June.

thoughts:
SS dropped quite a bit, I'll attribute it to summer vacations.
Sales on StockXpert sank like a brick in a swimming pool. SV almost beat them...
Sales picked up a little bit on SV--hope this trend continues.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: travelstock on August 01, 2008, 17:43
SS: 46% - BME
IS: 38% - BME
DT: 9% - down 10% (but BME on DL's - June had more EL sales)
FT: 4%
BS: 1.8%

Overall BME by a big margin, and broke the $1k in a month mark for the first time :)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: bcnewell on August 02, 2008, 22:40
IS 27% (WM2008)
DT 19% (BME)
StockXpert 16% (BME)
SS 15%
FT 14%
123 6% (BME)
BS 2%

I  haven't uploaded many recently, and i have begun to realize that SS doesn't really do very well for the long term.  The BME's at StockXpert at DT (both quite a leap ahead of usual) were a nice surprise.

Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: graficallyminded on August 03, 2008, 07:57
BME.

1300-1500+ images approved on most sites.

BigStock - down 50% from last month
StockXpert - a few dollars below last month
Alamy - 1 RF sale more $$ than a lot of my micros make per month
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on August 03, 2008, 19:06
If the stats here are any good, the following should be within 5% of your micro stock earnings last month.

melastmohican $2,462
Danp68            $386
Jsnover            $2,307
noam            $716
Epixx             $1,157
Mwp1969            $61
Jsolie            $410
Holgs            $2,299
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: vphoto on August 03, 2008, 19:24
are you clairvoyant enough to guess mine ?
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: cdwheatley on August 03, 2008, 19:31
IS  51%   down
SS  22%   down
FT  12%   BME
STX  6%   down
DT   5%    down
123  3%   BME
BigStock   1%   down
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Talanis on August 03, 2008, 19:54
SS     49%   up  (BME)
DT     26%   up  (BME)
iS      9%     up  (BME)
StockXpert   8%     down
FT     5%     up  (BME)
123   2%    down
MostPhoto = no sales in july

July is my BME so far but barely better than june.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on August 03, 2008, 20:56
are you clairvoyant enough to guess mine ?

Analysis vs. clairvoyancy

Put the link to your DT profile up and I will have a go.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: vphoto on August 03, 2008, 21:04
not even a fingerprint, until I see people thanking you for your free accounting.






Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on August 03, 2008, 22:20
ha ha ...

It is interesting ...

Been keeping tracks of about a thousand people on DT. Since it has stats like how many in a portfolio, how many sold. Each month I do an evaluation of how things went.

This 0.17 per image online at DT is an interesting equation though.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: melastmohican on August 04, 2008, 12:16
litifeta that is good one. I wonder what is a formula for your calculations? You are so much off :-)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: kgtoh on August 04, 2008, 14:41
SS BME
DT BME
IS Massive decline

Everything else about the same
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: travelstock on August 07, 2008, 00:14
If the stats here are any good, the following should be within 5% of your micro stock earnings last month.

melastmohican $2,462
Danp68            $386
Jsnover            $2,307
noam            $716
Epixx             $1,157
Mwp1969            $61
Jsolie            $410
Holgs            $2,299


How I wish you were right... I did say I only just broke the $1K mark for the first time though! I don't think average RPI is a good indication of individual portfolios - it will vary considerably for individual contributors. On DT other factors such as acceptance ratios, time on the site and how long images have been on the site, not to mention whatever else goes into their secret sauce come into play.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: noam on August 07, 2008, 00:42
If the stats here are any good, the following should be within 5% of your micro stock earnings last month.

melastmohican $2,462
Danp68            $386
Jsnover            $2,307
noam            $716
Epixx             $1,157
Mwp1969            $61
Jsolie            $410
Holgs            $2,299


I'm sorry to tell you, you are wrong about me too - My total was about double that figure - hope it will help you next time.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: kgtoh on August 07, 2008, 01:53
No offence, Litifeta, but as evidenced in your other posts, math is not your strongest suite.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: lobby on August 07, 2008, 19:20
are you clairvoyant enough to guess mine ?

164 usd
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: vphoto on August 07, 2008, 20:13
are you clairvoyant enough to guess mine ?

164 usd

if police hire you they may jail a wrong person :)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on August 07, 2008, 20:54
No offence, Litifeta, but as evidenced in your other posts, math is not your strongest suite.

They are your figures. No mathematics involved, other than times and divide.

All I did was your percentage figures, then went to the DT site and times your portfolio by 17 cents ... which over >>>> in the right you all reckon is the average.

I never supplied these figures, you guys did.

IF you read my post CORRECTLY you see I said: If the stats here are any good ...

So maybe kgtoh - maths may not be my strongest, but English is not yours. BTW, the correct term is "strongest suit". drop the 'e'.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: sharply_done on August 07, 2008, 23:10
I think you've just found out how meaningless average/mean is when used without stating a standard deviation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation) and/or confidence level/interval (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval).
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: DanP68 on August 08, 2008, 00:32
If the stats here are any good, the following should be within 5% of your micro stock earnings last month.

melastmohican $2,462
Danp68            $386
Jsnover            $2,307
noam            $716
Epixx             $1,157
Mwp1969            $61
Jsolie            $410
Holgs            $2,299



You cheated.  I already listed mine above at $379.   :)
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: kgtoh on August 08, 2008, 01:03
Thanks for correcting my English.

revised version:

Math is not your strongest Suit and that seems to include simple multiplication and division, possibly also addition, subtraction and counting.

:)

Also, FYI, correcting people's spelling mistakes on an informal forum in order to create some sort of comeback is the lowest of the low. Oh, the shame. tsk tsk.
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: litifeta on August 08, 2008, 18:15
Don't take cheap shots at others if you cannot take it yourself Toh.

BTW, if you are going to dabble in an intercourse in English, at least learn the basics. It is culturally offensive to us with it as our first language seeing it mish-mashed and flogged about.

Also, you are in no position to determine what is the "lowest of low".
Title: Re: July 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: leaf on August 08, 2008, 19:02
ok.. i guess we are done talking about your july earnings.