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THP Creative

  • THP Creative

« on: July 31, 2013, 20:46 »
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Couldn't see one yet...

July was a surprise to say the least - BME! Mostly thanks to a huge month at SS, helped by my 3 biggest SOD sales so far and a few ED's.

IS - Sales WAY up, but revenue DOWN. DO NOT LIKE this new pricing system.
FT - BME
PD - Great
BS - Great
DT - Average

The rest - average or below

But the REALLY EXCITING PART of my month was the site that came in as my 5th (6th if you count referral earnings) best earner...

http://thpstockphotos.com - My own Symbio site!


« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2013, 02:01 »
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Total revenue 10% down on June 2013 due to the IS price cut, all other sites similar to June.

« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2013, 02:38 »
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Had overall a great month, though individual agency performance varied!


SS - 61% (BME)
Stocksy - 19% (first month!!)
FT - 13% (average)
DT - 5% (WMY)
123rf - 2% (WMY)

So as you can see this month was made great by SS being a great earner (due to a special download and an EL mainly) - my RPD was second highest at SS this month, speaking for the impact on Demand, ELs and SODs have on my earnings.

Also, it was my first month at Stocksy and with a very small port, I was able to make sales and Stocksy became my second best earner overall, with best RPD and best RPI. This sets thinking in motion with regards to the value of my images and where to submit.
FT - RPD sinking (2nd lowest overall), RPI low
DT - number of downloads was stable, but it was mainly subs, so it became second lowest earner same extremely low RPI as 123rf.
123rf gets the price again for lowest RPD and lowest RPI - largely subs and small sales. Will make decision about kicking it by the end of the year.

Ron

« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 02:49 »
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Everything is down so it seems. A nice 80 dollar sale on FAA on the last day of July was a nice surprise. Sold my first RM license on Alamy for 10 dollar net. CanStockPhoto abysmal with 3 sales for $1.25 total. Got a canned response from their customer service about sales go up and sales go down, lol. One sale on my symbiostock site in the first month for 17.50 euro which makes them my 4th earner  :)

FAA - 1 sale for 80 dollar
Alamy - 1 sale for 10 dollar
123RF - good month (still peanuts)
Fotolia - bad month 50% down from June 2013
Istock  - Insignificant portfolio
Symbiostock - BME  :)
Canstockphoto - abysmal
Photodune - abysmal
Depositphotos - abysmal
Graphic Leftovers -  dead

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Shutterstock gets its own section - BME   :)
July 2013 stats - $$$
12% up from April 2013 BME
155% Up from July 2012
24% up from June 2013

July 2013 stats - DLs
4% down from June 2013 BME
202% up from July 2012
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July overall down by about 30%

« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2013, 02:56 »
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Worst month since January

Beppe Grillo

« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 04:27 »
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I was expecting the worst month, because a lot of customers should be in holiday in July (and August)
But surprisingly it has been my best month since January!

Best month ever on Shutterstock 70% more that June (Enhanced and S&O Downloads)
Best month ever on Fotolia 50% more than June
Worst month on iStock (but without the PP sales) 75% less than June
Best on BigStock, 123RF, Pond and YAY too, but still few sales
GL, CanStock, PhotoDune: They still exist??

« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 04:38 »
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Big drop in earnings from istock, nearly 40% less than in June although volume of sales was up by 15%.

All the new agencies together (including video) brought in 92 Dollars, most of the money came from SS and stocksy, then Fotolia, Deposit,Dreamstime.

The month started well, but then the summer slowdown hit me everywhere. My 7 day rank, which had gone up to 3200 on Fotolia has dropped down to 6240.

I still only have 200-500 images on the new agencies and will continue to upload slowly.

No video sales on Pond5 and only 1 video sale overall.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 07:17 »
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iS: For dls, worst since April 2007, (sic) my fourth full month on iS, and three months BEFORE I became exclusive.
     for $$, worst since December 2007.
     Compared to July 2012: $$ -51%; dls -33%

I see that over there, most people so far have reported buoyant figures for this month, so I guess that means the new collection is working for them and for iStock and there will be no changes, so I am sunk. When it started, I observed here in dismay that several old scans which had sold well at first, but which now have rivals, but still sold once or twice a month, had been promoted to S+ presumably on their overall sales numbers. None has sold once since the change. Given a choice, I'd probably have demoted some/all of them to Main.

OTOH, of my demoted sales, some editorials taken of annual events last July and August which hadn't sold, have sold in Main - but that was the pattern previously: sales would come in in the few weeks before the next year's event: so demoting them has just cost iS - and me - money.

Similarly a few demoted unique-in-iStock editorials (and unlikely to be anywhere else) have sold, which were in the low-demand, low supply category. I don't think dropping the price makes any difference to that sort of image. My consolation on these is that the most likely user would be a charity. If I thought that e.g. a commerical magazine was using them on their editorials for pennies, I'd be furious.

In addition, my RPD for July was down c25% on the average, again proof the the 'Collections' is working against me personally.

Hard to know what to do. It's clearly not worth uploading there, and hasn't been for months, so the old mantra of "shoot, upload, repeat" or even "shoot better stuff" is currently totally irrelevant. Looking in almost anyone's port, their recent stuff is mostly unsold, even the top sellers whose files used to fly off the queue.

If things go on like this, I won't make the 30% target, which until the change I was comfortably over. RCs since the change have pulled that right down.

In other news:
FAA - nada: mostly my fault as I haven't shot anything special as I had intended. Life sometimes gets in the way of Art. Odd how I had two very early sales and nothing since. Very few views, though a relatively large number yesterday. Most of my views seem to be bots.

Alamy: 9 sales for so-so prices, but $$net c50% of iStock. I guess I need to focus there for the present, as they're showing growth after a poor start to the year.
Added 6 Aug: But in common with many others, I had a $75.33 (gross) sale refunded and resold for $30.74.  :'(
http://discussion.alamy.com/index.php?/topic/783-loadsa-refunds

Flickr: in surprise news, a magazine contacted me about a photo I have in Flickr, offered me 50 (>$75) for its use (RM) and it was used over the top of a double spread, along with two of my Alamy pics, this month. (The pic isn't on Alamy or iStock as it was a photo of a night festival, and I thought high ISO combined with the blurriness on some of the moving people would be rejected on both - but they told me they thought it was 'beautiful') I haven't actually got the money yet, but I emailled a contact who regularly writes articles for them who said they send the cheques at the end of the month, and has never had bother with them. The great thing about this is that I could at last appease my Dad who was always saying, "What's the use of you having photos published which I can't see?" If they'd only used the Alamy ones, I wouldn't have known where they were used. Also I wouldn't have been credited, as if they buy from agencies, they only use the agency name. If you're interested, most of their photos are from photo/words packages; the only agencies named are Thinkstock (grr), Getty and Alamy.

Getty: (June) 3 sales, lowish $$; still waiting for a fair few to be transferred.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2013, 21:03 by ShadySue »

« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 07:41 »
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Assuming steady PP earnings, whenever we eventually get them, I will be 2.6% down on July 2012. Istock's price change was to blame as earnings there were slashed by more than 50%. IS have now slipped to 3rd place in my earnings. Thankfully SS, and unusually FT due to a couple of big EL's, made up most of the difference.

Percentages of total earnings as follows (with 2012);

SS   50.8%  (41.6)
FT   13.7%  (12.1)
IS   12.4%  (25.4)
DT    9.7%  (9.9)
BigStock  4.4%  (3.1)




« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2013, 08:58 »
+3
BME on Shutterstock. Broke 1K there for the first time.

All the others almost seem like a waste of time. Bigstock is starting to move up though. Has overtaken all of the others but 123RF. Bigstock might improve if I could get to level 4 there like I am on 123.

Shutterstock: 73 percent
123RF: 7 percent
Bigstock: 6 percent
Dreamstime: 4 percent
Fotolia: 4 percent
Deposit photos: 3 percent
Canstock: 2 percent
Veer: 1 percent


« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2013, 11:41 »
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Is a loud fart noise descriptive enough for July earnings?

tab62

« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2013, 11:46 »
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overall, very average month. I did get promoted to Level 3 on 123RF thus a small milestone for me...

« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2013, 11:53 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:37 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2013, 12:36 »
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July was interesting - mostly in  a good way. SS had a great month, and for July, that surprised me; up 56% over 2012 (downloads up 17% so there was a real boost from SODs and ELs)

Alamy is hopeless - just one sale (not yet cleared, of course) "Usage: iQ sale: RF" where the maximum size sold. List price $315; actual sale price $45 (of which I get half). But it was hopeless in June too, for almost the same amount :). They really ought to change the "list" prices as all it can do is deter new customers - no one ever pays those numbers in my limited experience.

DT is hopeless - down 36% on 2012 in $$ while downloads were up 8%. In another indication of how their pricing and other policies are hurting them instead of helping them, in 2012, SS made me 256% of what DT made me for July. In 2013 SS earnings were 601% of DTs - SS was six times what DT was versus two and a half times last year.

I have virtually no images left at IS so there's no real comparisons to make, but in several of the last few months the PP is making more than IS (with fewer images as there are no editorial on the PP). There was a little blip in June, but it was before the price changes and was just the ability of a few sales to skew the results when your portfolio there is tiny (only 147 left). Lord knows when we'll get the July PP numbers :)

123rf was about 1% down on July 2012. CanStock was in the toilet but a $32.60 "print" distribution sale on the 31st made for a last minute save. PhotoDune putters along - regular earnings but not much. Veer was about the same as PD and CanStock - no ELs this  month which is what boosts earnings there. I have only ~800 images there and don't plan to upload more but it's nice to see something regular from the images already there.

« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2013, 15:51 »
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July 2012 was only a good month for me due to a large direct stock photo sale, and July 2013 was ok for the same reason, so I can't really complain, but I am concerned that stock sales are becoming more and more unpredictable.

I did okay with my own direct stock photo sales and with FAA this month (echoes of last July), but micro sales were bizarre compared to the usual outcome. On the micro front, DT was my best, followed very closely by iStock (where I have 1/3rd as many images as on DT and SS), followed by a dismal SS (SS earned me nearly as much as the others, but that's about 50% of what I'd come to expect until this recent downturn, hence "dismal"). Fotolia and Bigstock aren't even worth mentioning. Alamy is starting to feel like a waste of time without a single sale higher than $29.00 since March 2013. I sure miss the old days. Of course, a couple big sales there and I'll be happy with them again. That's the upside of RM/trad RF.

I anticipated a downturn at DT due to continued sub sales eroding all my level 4 and 5s and at iStock since my best-selling photo+ images are now stuck in the Main collection, but sales at both grew this month.

Payouts from 3 of the micros plus FAA (which is always a nice thing). Just wish I'd waited for partner program sales and an extended license to come in at iS before putting in my payment request.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2013, 16:00 by wordplanet »

« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2013, 16:11 »
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slow month  down about 20% from this year's average.

good news is that my symbiostock site was  bunched with DT and pond in a near tie for 2nd best this month

EmberMike

« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2013, 19:42 »
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Is a loud fart noise descriptive enough for July earnings?

I'm hearing that same noise when I look at my spreadsheet. July was depressing.


dbvirago

« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2013, 20:01 »
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Better than average overall. All sites better than June except DT with the worst month if almost 6 years.

Total up 4% over June and 7% over July 2012
« Last Edit: August 02, 2013, 12:26 by dbvirago »

« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 22:24 »
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Overall for me July 2013 was...

up 10% from June 2013

up 1% from July 2012

After 5 years in microstock, it's looking like 2013 is on track to tie 2012 for total dollars earned.  On the one hand, it's great because 2012 was fantastic.  On the other hand, I've added a LOT of new pictures just to stay flat.

« Last Edit: August 01, 2013, 22:29 by stockmarketer »

lisafx

« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 23:10 »
+1
Was it July?  I could have sworn from my royalty totals that it was December.   :P

gillian vann

  • *Gillian*
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 23:37 »
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Flickr: in surprise news, a magazine contacted me about a photo I have in Flickr, offered me 50 (>$75) for its use (RM) and it was used over the top of a double spread, along with two of my Alamy pics, this month. (The pic isn't on Alamy or iStock as it was a photo of a night festival, and I thought high ISO combined with the blurriness on some of the moving people would be rejected on both - but they told me they thought it was 'beautiful')


you gotta love it when real world designers think your images that have "poor lighting, noise, poor composition, focus in the wrong spot etc" are appreciated and loved.

« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2013, 00:59 »
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 Overall down 10% compared to July 2012, mainly due to total disaster at IS (including PP!) : -60% !
SS and FT went down just a bit (-4%), which was covered by a GREAT month at DST (+26%).
I think it would've been worse if July had not had 1 working day more than July 2012, so as a good pessimist, I expect worse in August.
 
132rf did well, but July 2012 had lots of EL's, so it could not beat 2012.
Pond5 sold 3 clips, which is a BME for me (I only have 12 clips there!)

Rodeo sold zero, which is normal for Rodeo in summertime.  Since the launch of their new site it is great to be able to read some of it in English.  It is also possible to upload directly now ... only they don't review ANYTHING of what you upload  (I have a backlog there of over 500 images!).

« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2013, 12:45 »
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Flat as a pancake despite few hundred uploads to various sites in past year.  The new uploads, and new income effectively countered by drop in royalty rates by so many sites!  SS hung in just about to July last year, ok on FT and PD, lacklustre performances on 123rf, Bigstock, poor on Canstock, DISMAL alamy over past two months - dont feel like uploading there anymore unless smthng changes there quickly - however DT came in with a BME recouping a good deal of the month.  IS low but I have removed a fair bit of content there.  GL continues with non-existent sales.

lisafx

« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2013, 11:43 »
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Finally got around to doing my totals.  Even worse than I had imagined.  Assuming average PP sales, I am down 12% on last month, and 21% on last year.  Continuing my trend of being 20% down on the same month the prior year, that has been going on for over a year now. 

Dollars are way worse than last December after all.  Haven't made so little in any month since 2006.  Un-F#@%king believable. 

Best of all, on most of the major sites, my downloads are actually up significantly.  Only $ are down.  Really shows how their policies are F#@%king us. 

I just spent three days doing a huge photo shoot covering a wide variety of concepts.  Biggest I have ever undertaken.  I just can't see throwing the best of them into the microstock void.  Looks like I'm going to finally be uploading to Stocksy. 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2013, 12:03 by lisafx »

Ron

« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2013, 11:48 »
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^^^ Sorry to hear Lisa. Thats a worrying development. Do you have sales from your own site?


 

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