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Leo Blanchette

« on: June 05, 2008, 11:31 »
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Lets suppose this business of microstock ends up being a like a neutron star and gets so big and fat that it collapses under its own size. You know -- like sets suppose, just for the fun of it, that if you slice a pie into ten thousand pieces among 1000 people, nobody wants the pie anymore. Lets suppose that your a beanie baby and the microstock business is ebay? Ebay is gonna do fine, but pretty soon your not even going to sell at yard sale.

Any of you have a fall-back plan? You guys that are making a living in this?

For sure, things are going to change. Its just hard to predict how. But forget trying to learn how to use the crystal ball -- we've all learned a lot in this biz.

How are you going to put your skills to work if you need a plan B?

Just for fun of course, cuz we all know that this business knows exactly where its going and everything is going to be fine. :D

PS - I have nothing against beanie babies.


« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2008, 12:04 »
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Uhu , I dont care too much about that , I have few backups.

Few times a came just after  999 999 visitor on a site and I have won few millions on that , so I could pick up that cash if I need it.

Some girl from Africa that apparently knows me ,was a princess , her father died , I forgot what happened then , but she only needs 10 000 $ from me so she can pick up few millions that will share with me later.

I can easilly buy a diploma , a maybe start building houses , be a doctor , or whatever comes on my mind.

The new deodorant that I use apparently attracts women very much , so that all of them want to go in bed with me , so I could start to charge that If i want to.

Or I can just ask Miz if I can live with him in the future , he is smart , so he will surely come up with a plan for the two of us . 

   

 

« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 12:19 »
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Since microstock brings food on my table while I am student, in next few years plan B is to die from starvation for me. lol.

« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 12:26 »
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well i actually think microstock will be here for a while longer.  I am currently earning my full time wage from it. 

Some people like to fret about what will happen when microstock dies, like it is going to die over night.  Microstock may die, or change, but it isnt going to happen overnight, which happens to be the speed at which you could loose a regular day job with the company going under, layoffs etc. etc.  I feel that microstock IS a good a viable business venture now so i am enjoying it while it lasts.

So I actually feel that microstock is more secure than a regular day job.  But, just suppose, as you say, that microstock does go under or for some reason it is not possible to make a living with microstock what I would do?

Well, firstly I am a photographer, secondly i am a microstock photographer, so I would pursue another photographic venue such as midstock or macrostock, wedding photos (i have done this a bit before moving 100% into stock), real estate photography.. etc.. etc.. there are quite a few options as a photographer if you want to make it work.

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 13:06 »
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LIZARD! Too funny man! Add 'comedian' to your list of back up plans -- you got it made

Chode -- Add wilderness survival to your education -- then you can bring photography to the wild and get some cool shots of the last remaining tribe uncontacted by man, proving the last one to be a mistake or hoax. You will also not starve because of your newfound skills in foraging, even if that venture doesn't work.

Leaf -- thats  a very good and educated reply. I never thought of it that way actually. It is more stable than a big corporate job (or even a small one) because the storm won't come on all at once.

Please, post all of your doom and gloom and microstock conspiracy theories in this thread. No thread I've ever started remained serious and down to earth for very long.

« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 13:10 »
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Actually microstock is my "life after" plan B :-) Shall I look for plan C???

helix7

« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 13:23 »
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Wow.. lots of doom-and-gloom going on about microstock lately. :)

I've started many a post like this, and I'll start this one the same way: "I'm not worried."

Sure microstock is young, there's lots of growing to do and who knows where that growth will lead. But how is that any worse than what's out there in the regular job market? Think about how many of your friends or family have lost jobs in the last year or two. How many thought they had a good thing going and then the rug was yanked out from under them? It can happen any time, any where, for any reason regardless of whether you're talking about microstock, car sales, flipping burgers, building houses, answering a phone, whatever.

The nice thing is that with microstock, if such a thing happens it can't and won't be overnight. It will be more gradual. If the market gets oversaturated, we will feel the effects slowly over time. And even if that happens, we'll still have time to continue making some money at this while looking for the next thing. Any one of us could walk away today, just stop uploading and leave your images where they are, and those images already online would continue making money for months to come. In this scenario, it would be far less money than we're used to, but it would be something.

Microstock isn't going anywhere, and while oversaturation is a possible problem, it's better than being in a market where demand is shrinking. Demand for affordable images will always be there, and so we'll always be able to make some kind of money at this.



lisafx

« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 13:36 »
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Leaf and Helix both make excellent points. I agree that when/if microstock winds down it will be gradual.  Also agree that there will be plenty more we can do with the photographic skills we have picked up. 

I was doing photography for quite awhile before I discovered microstock and thought I had a good skill set.  But I have to admit my skill set has grown exponentially over the three years I have been doing microstock.  So has my confidence.  I no longer have to guess at lighting, nor do I worry my pictures won't turn out. I am sure most other FT or advanced PT microstockers can say the same. 

I have to admit I have given some thought to investing some of the extra income.   Not too fond of the stock market, but real-estate prices are low right now. 

Mainly I try to be philosophical and remember that when a door shuts a window opens.  I honestly believe that. 

« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 13:48 »
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I'm not worried and have no plan B.

« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 13:54 »
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Microstock is fine & well - but other than that, I think we all have photographic skills.  The people who are full time at this are graphic artists, designers, photographers, illustrators - there is no shortage of work for talented portrait photographers or graphic designers who have 5 years experience.  we're all self employed, we're all marketable, and heck if things go bad, I go back to shooting weddings full time. :D

CofkoCof

« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 14:01 »
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I don't think it'll go down that soon. But if it would go down then I'd probably find another addiction. I always do :D Wouldn't be much of a problem since my regular job easily covers my expenses atm.

« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 16:49 »
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Wedding singer:)

DanP68

« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 16:55 »
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Well, my porn name is James Sunset.  So keep your eyes open.

DanP68

« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 17:06 »
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I have to admit I have given some thought to investing some of the extra income.   Not too fond of the stock market, but real-estate prices are low right now. 



Diversify Lisa. 

If you know someone who can mentor you in real estate, find out as much as you can and buy when property prices in your area are depressed and the deal will give you positive cash flow. 

I cannot imagine not being in the stock market, even as weird as the last 10 years have been. But if you aren't comfortable just parking money in a Vanguard index fund, consider an income fund which pays you a reliable dividend, insulating you somewhat from price movement.  Bonds are another diversification tool.  Just stay away from trendy stuff like gold and what not, that over time tends to return little to nothing.

Whatever you do, learn enough to invest when what you want to buy is cheap, and out of favor.  The public will think you are an idiot.  10 years later, you will be much richer, and they will be buying at the top again.

« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2008, 19:57 »
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Gladly stock photography is just a way to justify spending so much money in photography equipment. ;)

Frankly, I don't live on that and a very small part of my income comes from it, but it is good to see that the DSLR I bought last year plus the extras was basically covered by stock earnings.

Regards,
Adelaide

Roadrunner

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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 10:18 »
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Well put Adelaide!  I hope to make enough to buy the Bride a Big Mac and may be get myself a ne Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 HMS II for Christmas.  Who knows; could be I make enough to get me a Big Mac too.  ;D

Roadrunner

lisafx

« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 10:25 »
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Diversify Lisa. 

If you know someone who can mentor you in real estate, find out as much as you can and buy when property prices in your area are depressed and the deal will give you positive cash flow. 

I cannot imagine not being in the stock market, even as weird as the last 10 years have been. But if you aren't comfortable just parking money in a Vanguard index fund, consider an income fund which pays you a reliable dividend, insulating you somewhat from price movement.  Bonds are another diversification tool.  Just stay away from trendy stuff like gold and what not, that over time tends to return little to nothing.

Whatever you do, learn enough to invest when what you want to buy is cheap, and out of favor.  The public will think you are an idiot.  10 years later, you will be much richer, and they will be buying at the top again.

All very, very good advice Dan.  I really appreciate the tips :-D

Honestly, it seems crazy not to invest in something reliable while we do have some disposable income. 

I am embarassed to admit that right now we have earmarked the next few thousand for a kitchen remodel.... But on the up side, it will be so modern and gorgeous we can definitely use it for some pictures ;-)


DanP68

« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 10:30 »
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I am embarassed to admit that right now we have earmarked the next few thousand for a kitchen remodel.... But on the up side, it will be so modern and gorgeous we can definitely use it for some pictures ;-)

We did the kitchen remodel last spring/summer.  It was expensive, but it was worth it.  The kitchen is a lot more functional, besides that it looks really nice.

And now I am wondering why I haven't used it for pictures yet?   ???


lisafx

« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 10:34 »
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LOL!  Sorry I gave you the idea!

OTOH I guess I owe you for the financial advice ;)

jsnover

« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 10:50 »
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I am embarassed to admit that right now we have earmarked the next few thousand for a kitchen remodel.... But on the up side, it will be so modern and gorgeous we can definitely use it for some pictures ;-)

Think about the "during" pictures, not just the gorgeous new results. We did remodeling in 2001, before I did stock and before I had a digital camera, but I cleaned up the scans of a few of the shots that I thought were stock worthy (and all those *^#% logos on the ladders and tools) and they sell quite nicely. Home remodeling is big business.

lisafx

« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2008, 12:14 »
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Think about the "during" pictures, not just the gorgeous new results. We did remodeling in 2001, before I did stock and before I had a digital camera, but I cleaned up the scans of a few of the shots that I thought were stock worthy (and all those *^#% logos on the ladders and tools) and they sell quite nicely. Home remodeling is big business.

Yes, there is that.  Not sure if the guys doing it will be willing to sign releases though...

jsnover

« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2008, 12:17 »
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Even if the guys don't sign releases, there's tons of shots of the place itself in various states of destruction/framing/plumbing/wiring, etc. that can be very useful. And there's always that handsome hunk of a husband of yours who can stand in if needed :)

Once the crew knocked off at 4pm I'd get out the camera as I didn't want them to charge me extra for getting in the way...

« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2008, 12:27 »
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Yes, there is that.  Not sure if the guys doing it will be willing to sign releases though...
From what I've seen of your work, hubbie should be able to easily step in as a worker after the real ones have left for the day.

As far as the real workers are concerned, you may want to approach them from a "I'll give you the images for free if you sign model releases so I can use them in my business" standpoint. I'm sure anything you shoot could be made into a nice brochure for them.

lisafx

« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2008, 13:04 »
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...And there's always that handsome hunk of a husband of yours who can stand in if needed :)


He's gonna be IMPOSSIBLE to live with if he reads this!

Thanks for the suggestions guys.  Now I wonder how much of this I can write off under props and locations...? ;)

« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2008, 18:01 »
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If microstock went belly up tomorrow, my life (well my income) wouldn't be affected since I make very little with it.  My life would definitely be affected because I would have lots more spare time! :D 

My plan is to always keep my day job that pays well until I can retire (hopefully not more than 10 more years).  If microstock and stock in general survives, it will be a nice extra retirement income.


 

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