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tab62

« on: May 21, 2012, 12:15 »
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Hi MSG Folks,

I am considering getting into the Macro world as well and wanted to know if "Macro" has good sales potential for the Microstock World? So far, I've been using a 50mm prime (non macro) for food and object shots along with my 24-70 and 17-40 thus looking into getting a 100mm Macro lens to have a broad base of coverage. I know bugs don't sell and my friends tell me that macro is only for bugs life thus holding off until now...

Thanks.


Tom


lagereek

« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 12:19 »
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Last year I earned almost, 200K, in macro, RM, it should speak for itself,  go for it, especially RM. :)

tab62

« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 13:36 »
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Wow! If I made 1/10 of that I would be doing cart wheels!  Is the 100mm with stabilizer one of your lens? 

ShadySue

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 13:38 »
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Wow! If I made 1/10 of that I would be doing cart wheels!  Is the 100mm with stabilizer one of your lens? 
He's teasing you!
He's talking about selling as Macro, not micro; not shooting with a macro lens!

tab62

« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 13:58 »
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he got me- I was heading out the door to purchase a new lens... ;D

lagereek

« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2012, 15:20 »
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Sue is right!  I was talking RM, etc :)  however, talking about macro-photography, the Canon, 100.2.8L.IS, the new one that is,  is one of the sharpest lenses I have ever had.

« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 17:38 »
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Seriously, forget it unless you have very advanced skills and can, perhaps, sell directly into  a specialist RM library. If you look at the stuff tagged "macro" in the microstock agencies you'll find that there is scarcely anything selling well that is a true macro.

« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 17:41 »
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Seriously, forget it unless you have very advanced skills and can, perhaps, sell directly into  a specialist RM library. If you look at the stuff tagged "macro" in the microstock agencies you'll find that there is scarcely anything selling well that is a true macro.

This statement is accurate based on my experience.  I consider myself an expert in macro photography and it doesn't sell too well.  You really have to be a specialist and market that kind of work through RM cuz you'll make more doe (more than a few bucks a download like MS).

« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 17:47 »
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are you willing to shoot very small objects, etc? if so go for it, if not dont.. if you have a 24 70 I dont really think you need another lens to do stock

tab62

« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2012, 18:23 »
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That works for me since I prefer to use the 24-70 most of the time. Thanks.

Tom

lagereek

« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 01:01 »
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Seriously, forget it unless you have very advanced skills and can, perhaps, sell directly into  a specialist RM library. If you look at the stuff tagged "macro" in the microstock agencies you'll find that there is scarcely anything selling well that is a true macro.

True! close-ups, macro, etc, isnt exactly the micro stronghold.

« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 01:12 »
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I take macro photos, and I sell macro photos.
Its all about what is the frame.
Go do a louse in a stacked macro, or a mosquitto...
It will sell well.

Half bees with shallow dof does not sell.

« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 02:23 »
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I take macro photos, and I sell macro photos.
Its all about what is the frame.
Go do a louse in a stacked macro, or a mosquitto...
It will sell well.

Half bees with shallow dof does not sell.

Do you use Zerene? Just curious.

« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 04:15 »
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I take macro photos, and I sell macro photos.
Its all about what is the frame.
Go do a louse in a stacked macro, or a mosquitto...
It will sell well.

Half bees with shallow dof does not sell.

+1... .

« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 05:34 »
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I take macro photos, and I sell macro photos.
Its all about what is the frame.
Go do a louse in a stacked macro, or a mosquitto...
It will sell well.

Half bees with shallow dof does not sell.

I'd call a stacked macro of a mosquito an advanced technique. I guess you could get away with a 24-70 and some tubes on a motorised focusing rail, but it wouldn't be ideal. The 65mm 1-5x MP-E would be much better.

But perhaps tab62 just means general close-up shots of things, which do sell all the time. People use the word "macro" very loosely. To me a macro is a shot in which the object is recorded at actual size or larger on the sensor or film that is recording it but I've seen people claim that if the object appears at life size on a 10x8" print then that is macro, though the image would be only about an eighth of life size on the sensor. Obviously, the difference in detail and DoF between 1/8 life-size and actual size is enormous.

tab62

« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 09:41 »
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All good points- My example would be say a drop of water on a leaf or the date on a coin with some blur on the outside of the coin. I've been told that a lot of the stock companies want the entire area in focus and no more soft focus thus not sure if a 100mm Macro lens would be useful for the MS world.

Thanks

Tom

Ed

« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 09:55 »
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All good points- My example would be say a drop of water on a leaf or the date on a coin with some blur on the outside of the coin. I've been told that a lot of the stock companies want the entire area in focus and no more soft focus thus not sure if a 100mm Macro lens would be useful for the MS world.

Thanks

Tom

I have some non-macro images shot with the 100mm macro.  I don't have the image stabilized version of the lens. The images are tack sharp - portraits especially.  The danger you run into is just as you describe.  Just playing around, I tried to shoot some of the cliched eye close up images.  The contact lens was in focus but as you move outward the image does get out of focus fairly quickly.

Some stock agencies will accept "soft focus" and I think it depends on the technique.  I have submitted some soft focus portraits that have been accepted (the one image I did decide to keep of the eye was uploaded to traditional agencies under an RF license - no sales yet, but it's only been about a month if that).

Flower macros don't sell.


tab62

« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 10:01 »
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A lot of shots would be plants and coins and both are of low selling value thus attempting to use 'ROI' for my lens would not fly with my business partner (IRS)...

lagereek

« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 10:48 »
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All good points- My example would be say a drop of water on a leaf or the date on a coin with some blur on the outside of the coin. I've been told that a lot of the stock companies want the entire area in focus and no more soft focus thus not sure if a 100mm Macro lens would be useful for the MS world.

Thanks

Tom

I dont understand you really. If you are into Macro photography, surely you must realize you will sooner or later need a proper Macro lens, goes without saying, doesnt it. I mean you would not do architecture, professionally without tilt/shift, right.
Canon does have extremly good macro optics, the 100L.IS and the 180 mil. macro. This is an investment you will simply have to deal with, if remaining in the macro world.

« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 18:21 »
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I love that Canon MPE lens. It's the only reason I bought a Canon.

@tab62 Water drop on a leaf - wow that's original. There are how many gajillions of them?

« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 06:14 »
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ja, I consider buying a canon to get that lens.
I dont know what Zerene is?
True macro, as they say, is 1:1, and that means working at the closest range of the lens, and that is difficult.
So we bend the term a bit and say... that when we are really close, then its macro.

And such. A macro lens and a wide angle lens... Same story.
They are special tools, that open special oppertunities, that the photographer needs to frame.
Get something salesworthy in the frame of either lens, and it will sell.

Could be Zeppenliner or an ant. It will sell when its well done and relevant to the customer.
Just like other pictures.
Computer problems, not stacked.

Stack on stack. Aphids:
« Last Edit: May 23, 2012, 06:26 by JPSDK »

« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 09:05 »
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I love that Canon MPE lens. It's the only reason I bought a Canon.


It's a great lens but it takes some skill/practice to get the best from it. I've got one but I've not used it much. I ought to work up some more projects for it, really.
On the 5D Mk2 I find it not only needs to be on a tripod, it needs mirror lock-up and the delayed exposure timer to get the sharpest results (together with standing still to avoid shaking the room or setting up air currents) - and that's using flash. At 5x the DoF is of the same order as the thickness of a plant cell wall.


 

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