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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: angelawaye on March 04, 2020, 07:56
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Please delete the topic. I had opted out of all image sales ...
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"opted out of all image sales"
So, you did stop selling images on Shutterstock?
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
I fully agree on most posts with you jonbull but not in this one.
What if I steal someone's photos from Flickr and make some pennies profit, perhaps he/she will probably never know about it.
When a model, even a family member signs, it is a contract between the content creator and the model.
If the terms change, the model must be aware and approve. Or delete content.
The real question is, does this sensitive use apply from now on or also on past sales?
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
"Model will never know about it...", that is really wrong. I would never want to betray a model's trust and think it's fine because they will never know about it.
I accidentally opted out of all image sales. I have opted back in but it takes 72 hours for my port to show up again unfortunately.
I'm just removing images with someone's face basically so I will still get some income with SS but definitely not as much.
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
I fully agree on most posts with you jonbull but not in this one.
What if I steal someone's photos from Flickr and make some pennies profit, perhaps he/she will probably never know about it.
When a model, even a family member signs, it is a contract between the content creator and the model.
If the terms change, the model must be aware and approve. Or delete content.
The real question is, does this sensitive use apply from now on or also on past sales?
maybe is good..i will not cancel anything...if something happens and they want damages i will contact ss and sue it...because it-s clear that in this case they are completely wrong...they have right rot change contract ok but i doubt they have the right to create problems to models after they accepted a release that clearly states defamatory and sensitive usage is not allowed...they are selling those images...they changed contract note...any court will never sue the photographer, there is no way. so they will take the pain of this not me.
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
"Model will never know about it...", that is really wrong. I would never want to betray a model's trust and think it's fine because they will never know about it.
I accidentally opted out of all image sales. I have opted back in but it takes 72 hours for my port to show up again unfortunately.
I'm just removing images with someone's face basically so I will still get some income with SS but definitely not as much.
yes for that reason when I shot models I never promised anything over and above a standard release. Once an image hits the internet realistically you can't guarantee to control its use.
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bah for me really you are making something so big actually is not...losing thousand of dollar for fears one image is sold as sensitive use,, considering that model will probably never know about it...bah.
"Model will never know about it...", that is really wrong. I would never want to betray a model's trust and think it's fine because they will never know about it.
I accidentally opted out of all image sales. I have opted back in but it takes 72 hours for my port to show up again unfortunately.
I'm just removing images with someone's face basically so I will still get some income with SS but definitely not as much.
Dang girl I feel for you!
There's so much sh.t going on in this industry lately that we start to get careless.
Hopefully your port will be up asap. It's already bad enough as it is.
Take care Angela and all the best!
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Jonbull I think you cannot claim damages or sue them as long as they informed you on the new contract changes and image uses. Perhaps I am wrong.
Here is sample that I think might can sue the image users advertising a dating site. Original image from Pinterest (i think).
image used: https://img.img-taboola.com/taboola/image/fetch/f_jpg%2Cq_auto%2Ch_174%2Cw_300%2Cc_fill%2Cg_faces:auto%2Ce_sharpen/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.taboola.com%2Flibtrc%2Fstatic%2Fthumbnails%2F0cc3a461f74c5db526abc160e00ac9b4.jpg (https://img.img-taboola.com/taboola/image/fetch/f_jpg%2Cq_auto%2Ch_174%2Cw_300%2Cc_fill%2Cg_faces:auto%2Ce_sharpen/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.taboola.com%2Flibtrc%2Fstatic%2Fthumbnails%2F0cc3a461f74c5db526abc160e00ac9b4.jpg)
Google reverse search: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310&q=jessica+clements+freckles&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESswIJoUB7kMyUwbMapwILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKPEPhx-EGo4asx_1tGqUajxDtD9Ea2zHfMZw84THmMdwxnjziMZs86DEaMDYJsDUqVcNPCVPLDZAgXLGtbR3yAc3biTCH23S0SV1Dk3NbSq3yVMeynuUHn-eV6iAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEvlD51wwLEJ3twQkanwEKFwoEZ2lybNqliPYDCwoJL20vMDVyNjU1CicKFHBvcnRyYWl0IHBob3RvZ3JhcGh52qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wY2htbDkKHAoJZXllIGxpbmVy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wZmcwMTkKHAoKYWRvbGVzY2VudNqliPYDCgoIL20vMGxkcHkKHwoLcGhvdG8gc2hvb3TapYj2AwwKCi9tLzAycWJsMW0M&fir=GySdUAcjjL0M6M%253A%252C2bwx5WCRcrP7eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQkzcTY2JBVbWSusPse-rxaPTFSuA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKlM74nYHoAhUCqYsKHRGMCTEQ9QEwAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=933#imgrc=GySdUAcjjL0M6M:&sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310 (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310&q=jessica+clements+freckles&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESswIJoUB7kMyUwbMapwILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKPEPhx-EGo4asx_1tGqUajxDtD9Ea2zHfMZw84THmMdwxnjziMZs86DEaMDYJsDUqVcNPCVPLDZAgXLGtbR3yAc3biTCH23S0SV1Dk3NbSq3yVMeynuUHn-eV6iAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEvlD51wwLEJ3twQkanwEKFwoEZ2lybNqliPYDCwoJL20vMDVyNjU1CicKFHBvcnRyYWl0IHBob3RvZ3JhcGh52qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wY2htbDkKHAoJZXllIGxpbmVy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wZmcwMTkKHAoKYWRvbGVzY2VudNqliPYDCgoIL20vMGxkcHkKHwoLcGhvdG8gc2hvb3TapYj2AwwKCi9tLzAycWJsMW0M&fir=GySdUAcjjL0M6M%253A%252C2bwx5WCRcrP7eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQkzcTY2JBVbWSusPse-rxaPTFSuA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKlM74nYHoAhUCqYsKHRGMCTEQ9QEwAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=933#imgrc=GySdUAcjjL0M6M:&sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310)
(https://i.imgur.com/YXTLUih.jpg)
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Jonbull I think you cannot claim damages or sue them as long as they informed you on the new contract changes and image uses. Perhaps I am wrong.
Here is sample that I think might can sue the image users advertising a dating site. Original image from Pinterest (i think).
image used: https://img.img-taboola.com/taboola/image/fetch/f_jpg%2Cq_auto%2Ch_174%2Cw_300%2Cc_fill%2Cg_faces:auto%2Ce_sharpen/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.taboola.com%2Flibtrc%2Fstatic%2Fthumbnails%2F0cc3a461f74c5db526abc160e00ac9b4.jpg (https://img.img-taboola.com/taboola/image/fetch/f_jpg%2Cq_auto%2Ch_174%2Cw_300%2Cc_fill%2Cg_faces:auto%2Ce_sharpen/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.taboola.com%2Flibtrc%2Fstatic%2Fthumbnails%2F0cc3a461f74c5db526abc160e00ac9b4.jpg)
Google reverse search: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310&q=jessica+clements+freckles&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESswIJoUB7kMyUwbMapwILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKPEPhx-EGo4asx_1tGqUajxDtD9Ea2zHfMZw84THmMdwxnjziMZs86DEaMDYJsDUqVcNPCVPLDZAgXLGtbR3yAc3biTCH23S0SV1Dk3NbSq3yVMeynuUHn-eV6iAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEvlD51wwLEJ3twQkanwEKFwoEZ2lybNqliPYDCwoJL20vMDVyNjU1CicKFHBvcnRyYWl0IHBob3RvZ3JhcGh52qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wY2htbDkKHAoJZXllIGxpbmVy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wZmcwMTkKHAoKYWRvbGVzY2VudNqliPYDCgoIL20vMGxkcHkKHwoLcGhvdG8gc2hvb3TapYj2AwwKCi9tLzAycWJsMW0M&fir=GySdUAcjjL0M6M%253A%252C2bwx5WCRcrP7eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQkzcTY2JBVbWSusPse-rxaPTFSuA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKlM74nYHoAhUCqYsKHRGMCTEQ9QEwAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=933#imgrc=GySdUAcjjL0M6M:&sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310 (https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310&q=jessica+clements+freckles&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&tbs=simg:CAESswIJoUB7kMyUwbMapwILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKPEPhx-EGo4asx_1tGqUajxDtD9Ea2zHfMZw84THmMdwxnjziMZs86DEaMDYJsDUqVcNPCVPLDZAgXLGtbR3yAc3biTCH23S0SV1Dk3NbSq3yVMeynuUHn-eV6iAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEvlD51wwLEJ3twQkanwEKFwoEZ2lybNqliPYDCwoJL20vMDVyNjU1CicKFHBvcnRyYWl0IHBob3RvZ3JhcGh52qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wY2htbDkKHAoJZXllIGxpbmVy2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wZmcwMTkKHAoKYWRvbGVzY2VudNqliPYDCgoIL20vMGxkcHkKHwoLcGhvdG8gc2hvb3TapYj2AwwKCi9tLzAycWJsMW0M&fir=GySdUAcjjL0M6M%253A%252C2bwx5WCRcrP7eM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQkzcTY2JBVbWSusPse-rxaPTFSuA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKlM74nYHoAhUCqYsKHRGMCTEQ9QEwAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=933#imgrc=GySdUAcjjL0M6M:&sxsrf=ALeKk01qFCsC76RIekUalDNWYOAr4ttIvw:1583339141310)
(https://i.imgur.com/YXTLUih.jpg)
well dating site use image from ss from years...i dont0 see a sensitive case...model of stock know this...clealry amateur maybe not that's why i not use amateur.
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If you work with professional models then you know the game.
you declare the included usage first step.
Could you enlighten the readers please
what a PROFESSIONAL model charges per half day whith these terms covered?
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If you work with professional models then you know the game.
you declare the included usage first step.
Could you enlighten the readers please
what a PROFESSIONAL model charges per half day whith these terms covered?
i only shoot in country like russia ukraine where models don't care a dime of this and take 50 to 100 dollar half day..like all other contributors from this country...i stopped using model in western world country where cost are skyrocketing and profit falling down...i repeat ss accepted a release with clearly the terms well defined the change all and that's their problemm....not mine. i bet what you want that a court will sue ss not me..
if this is how you said ss should practically clean the database of all models foto, and even photographer should cancel their account...i doubt they did this with this purpose.
personally all model i have ever used never asked me clarification of model release terms and all...thye just signed.