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Microstock Photography Forum - General => General Stock Discussion => Topic started by: stoker2014 on January 01, 2025, 04:48
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As of January 1st, they changed the way they calculated royalties, so there will be less money now.
>:( >:( >:(
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As of January 1st, they changed the way they calculated royalties, so there will be less money now.
>:( >:( >:(
"While this will mean higher earnings for some, it might also mean less for others." That is a big comic punchline !
"Please note that following this update, it may take 2 to 3 months for the earnings estimates on your dashboard to reflect accurate data again."
These guys are funny
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Yeah, received that as well. Better they could say that everyone will earn less money. No need to lie to people.
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As of January 1st, they changed the way they calculated royalties, so there will be less money now.
>:( >:( >:(
"While this will mean higher earnings for some, it will might also mean less for everyone others." That is a big comic punchline !
"Please note that following this update, it may take 2 to 3 months for the earnings estimates on your dashboard to reflect accurate data again."
These guys are funny
What they REALLY mean to say (see above)
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Yeah, received that as well. Better they could say that everyone will earn less money. No need to lie to people.
I think not everyone only creators, company will probobly make more :( long time my favorite company now I must change something with my strategies.
Many ,,great sneaky news,, in January.
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Yeah, received that as well. Better they could say that everyone will earn less money. No need to lie to people.
I think not everyone only creators, company will probobly make more :( long time my favorite company now I must change something with my strategies.
Many ,,great sneaky news,, in January.
I guess, will be better to sell stock on own website
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The owners of motionarray (an isralie company) seem to be about lying, and thieving. They "demanded" people agree to a new contract, "promising" more sales (but in essence were licensing content cheap, selling "ai" data), now they talk about stealing more money from people...
Den of thieves.
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The owners of motionarray (an isralie company) seem to be about lying, and thieving. They "demanded" people agree to a new contract, "promising" more sales (but in essence were licensing content cheap, selling "ai" data), now they talk about stealing more money from people...
Den of thieves.
So just like the majority of every other stock site who's done exactly the same? Apart from the promising more sales part... pretty sure none of them have ever done that.
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Maybe it’s time to revive the Stock Coalition. The FB group already has nearly 6,000 members, which is a solid starting point. There’s also a small community of Motion Array artists and another of Envato artists on Discord who would hopefully join in as well. Some of them have even expressed a willingness to take care of the website and its maintenance. We just need the most capable among us to step up and help get this initiative back on track, like before.
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As I understand it, they made it more difficult to move up to the next royalty level. Now you need to have more downloads.
And before there was only one level with a normal royalty percentage.
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EVen better than that ! I had $1081 yesterday for december earnings.
Today I have only $1118. The new commission rate is probably retroactive.
Ah! Ah! These guys are funny
#istocksyndrom #shitterstockstyleforever
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According to my calculations, my income will now be 40% less.
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The option to upload videos through the web interface disappeared. How do you upload videos now to MA?
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Submit a new product does not work. There is no option to select a category.
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The option to upload videos through the web interface disappeared. How do you upload videos now to MA?
If I am correct in email is written will be no possible upload up to January 6th or until is webpage updated
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Thanks. They just buried this info at the very bottom of a quite long email, so I didn't get to it.
Happy new year!
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Join the conversation and help spread the word! Let’s ensure clients understand the actual percentage creators are earning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/1hsgwvp/digital_feudalism_motion_array/?rdt=57574 (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/1hsgwvp/digital_feudalism_motion_array/?rdt=57574)
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It's beautiful.
I had around $80 earnings last night.
I was $75 this morning, and now it shows $63.
They will make negative revenues soon, it's coming, these guys are genius !
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It's beautiful.
I had around $80 earnings last night.
I was $75 this morning, and now it shows $63.
They will make negative revenues soon, it's coming, these guys are genius !
Do not panic, will take couple weeks or months until will be ,,leveled,, this is what is inside email from them.
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
They sent to the contributors a Happy New Year cut on 01.01.2025. Its the second cut in 3 years. The first one was when the new owners took over. We had a zoom call with the new owners then and they assured us that everything will be as before......well not really. After they took over they started calculating the earnings differently so it resulted in 30-50% down. Now on February 15 we will see what is the damage this time. In fact there is a nice discussion on reddit and linkedin that can shed light to your question. You can see part of that zoom call and what they say :).
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD)
Check the comments too.
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I’ll probably have to delete my account there.
January: 42 downloads -0$ earned. Robbing people
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Yes, bought out I believe it was by an Israeli company, and they keep seeing how they can nickle & dime people.
Right now - they sent out a message saying 'hey guys! for the next couple months are system is going to be screwy, so you won't know HOW much you make until we decide @ the end of the month! have fun!'... so sometimes you think you've made a few extra hundred $$$ - then it drops minus a couple hundred and you are thinking 'what'...?
There are some (usually east indians, but looks actually like some ukranians too) people who literally spam the sh*t out of it too - like 50 different 'yoga pose' angles of the same exact subject, same lighting, you just get a picture from the side of a woman, then underneath the woman, then a birdseye view of the woman, then a 45 degree angle of the woman, etc, etc... It's not even really unique at all - just spamming the "same" stuff - kind of like the east indian a few years ago who had like 40,000 "pictures "of the exact same "chair" on shutterstock (the exact same chair, just rotated 360 degrees by 1 degree increments on the horizontal axis, then tilting up 1 degree (going through 360 on the y axis) and another 360, then rotating the z axis 1 time, then going through the entire crapload again...
So you have some spammers spamming the sh*t out of it with 1000 "video clips" per day, so if you even get a few in, you don't necessarily see any increase in income. Then for the "templates" - again - they spam the sh*t out of those with slight variations - so again, if you do quality work, ur lucky if it does get seen/noticed - and then on top of that - any significant sales.
It "used" to be good for contributors when they did $3 asset/downloads - but then they got cheap and did "unlimited" downloads (in generally I think effectively cutting revenue by about 50% for contributors) - and now the latest games...
I'd say you're a bit late to the game if you want to try and making an income with them.
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
They sent to the contributors a Happy New Year cut on 01.01.2025. Its the second cut in 3 years. The first one was when the new owners took over. We had a zoom call with the new owners then and they assured us that everything will be as before......well not really. After they took over they started calculating the earnings differently so it resulted in 30-50% down. Now on February 15 we will see what is the damage this time. In fact there is a nice discussion on reddit and linkedin that can shed light to your question. You can see part of that zoom call and what they say :).
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD)
Check the comments too.
Interesting thread, thanks! Yes - the isralie company that acquired them seem to be liars, and instead focusing on stuffing their own pockets. I don't upload there any more because it is a waste of time.
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They also (last Oct) I think it was threatened contributors with a "Take it or leave it" new agreement - which basically expanded their "rights" for the assets. They made a big hoopla about "increased sales for contributors"... if there have been (there probably have) - it seems they've simply pocketed the difference with the expanded rights they granted themselves (i.e., so they can double/triple the price/etc they charge), and have not passed on any "increased sales" to contributors - at least none that I am aware of.
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
They sent to the contributors a Happy New Year cut on 01.01.2025. Its the second cut in 3 years. The first one was when the new owners took over. We had a zoom call with the new owners then and they assured us that everything will be as before......well not really. After they took over they started calculating the earnings differently so it resulted in 30-50% down. Now on February 15 we will see what is the damage this time. In fact there is a nice discussion on reddit and linkedin that can shed light to your question. You can see part of that zoom call and what they say :).
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD)
Check the comments too.
Interesting thread, thanks! Yes - the isralie company that acquired them seem to be liars, and instead focusing on stuffing their own pockets. I don't upload there any more because it is a waste of time.
Are you sure this is an Israeli company? I read that Artgrid bought them.
Did you upload videos or photos there?
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Artgrid is Israeli owned.
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Who's having what success? What's everyone's video upload limit?
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
They sent to the contributors a Happy New Year cut on 01.01.2025. Its the second cut in 3 years. The first one was when the new owners took over. We had a zoom call with the new owners then and they assured us that everything will be as before......well not really. After they took over they started calculating the earnings differently so it resulted in 30-50% down. Now on February 15 we will see what is the damage this time. In fact there is a nice discussion on reddit and linkedin that can shed light to your question. You can see part of that zoom call and what they say :).
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD)
Check the comments too.
Interesting thread, thanks! Yes - the isralie company that acquired them seem to be liars, and instead focusing on stuffing their own pockets. I don't upload there any more because it is a waste of time.
Are you sure this is an Israeli company? I read that Artgrid bought them.
Did you upload videos or photos there?
Yes, it's in their license agreement, + there have been some interviews with them - just saw one someone posted (don't recall if it was this thread or somewhere else)
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My income has dropped by 30%.
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Am I the only one with a decrease in income? ???
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Am I the only one with a decrease in income? ???
Nope.
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Am I the only one with a decrease in income? ???
Nope.
By what percentage has your income decreased? ;D
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Does anyone sell photos on this site? How is the income?
They sent to the contributors a Happy New Year cut on 01.01.2025. Its the second cut in 3 years. The first one was when the new owners took over. We had a zoom call with the new owners then and they assured us that everything will be as before......well not really. After they took over they started calculating the earnings differently so it resulted in 30-50% down. Now on February 15 we will see what is the damage this time. In fact there is a nice discussion on reddit and linkedin that can shed light to your question. You can see part of that zoom call and what they say :).
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD (https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/s/dhZz4Zr0kD)
Check the comments too.
I read it. What are the alternatives?
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If I remember correctly, the Motionarray agency was created by ordinary stockers. And in a few years, this agency began to bring in good income. Stockers need to create another agency like this.
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If I remember correctly, the Motionarray agency was created by ordinary stockers. And in a few years, this agency began to bring in good income. Stockers need to create another agency like this.
We need an Union. Till then we can only guess which agency is next to bring us the "exiting news".
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Am I the only one with a decrease in income? ???
Nope.
By what percentage has your income decreased? ;D
Actually since the "good news" e-mail where they were promising more sales (maybe just to themselves) - about 20-30% less as well.
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Am I the only one with a decrease in income? ???
Nope.
By what percentage has your income decreased? ;D
Actually since the "good news" e-mail where they were promising more sales (maybe just to themselves) - about 20-30% less as well.
What are your plans? Will you upload more content to this stock?
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For 10 days in March I have seen a very strong decrease in the number of downloads of my videos. What statistics does anyone have for this period?
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Is there anyone here who sells videos on Motionarray. What are your statistics on the number of downloads in March? Worse than in February and January or not?
From my portfolio, I can say that Motionarray somehow artificially reduces the number of downloads, because this has never happened before.
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My PDF statements and the amounts on my insight dashboard aren't matching up this year. Seems like they're fiddling with stuff, but didn't they say it would take a few months to work out the new system?
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My PDF statements and the amounts on my insight dashboard aren't matching up this year. Seems like they're fiddling with stuff, but didn't they say it would take a few months to work out the new system?
Yes, they said that. But it worries me. You see the number of downloads of your videos for 13 days in March, in your opinion is this the usual number of downloads for this period for you or less than before?
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You see the number of downloads of your videos for 13 days in March, in your opinion is this the usual number of downloads for this period for you or less than before?
1.111 downloads as of 12 March. 3.347 downloads in February. Mine seems on-track.
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479 downloads so far... 1,173 last month. Estimated downloads for March based on current figures... pretty much exactly the same as February.
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Compared to January and February, my downloads have decreased by 25%. But in January and February, the downloads were higher than in most months of 2024. In general, it depends on which month you compare with. Compared to March 2024, the downloads have not decreased.
True, I have now stopped uploading videos to Motionarray, maybe this has some effect.
In any case, their new royalty scale greatly reduces the income of authors. To get a royalty of 30%, you need to have 4500 downloads, I doubt that there are authors who have so many downloads at least in the middle of the month.
They also promised to pay money for the video if it is in the top, maybe someone received this money.
At the moment I don't want to upload a new video to this stock, it's like working for free. But maybe this leads to a drop in downloads for me.
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Maybe it’s time to revive the Stock Coalition. The FB group already has nearly 6,000 members, which is a solid starting point. There’s also a small community of Motion Array artists and another of Envato artists on Discord who would hopefully join in as well. Some of them have even expressed a willingness to take care of the website and its maintenance. We just need the most capable among us to step up and help get this initiative back on track, like before.
Hello my friend! Tell me the link to the discord I would like to join the Authors.
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Today I saw that the income for April has decreased significantly. Although yesterday it would have been twice as much. Check your statistics.
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Today I saw that the income for April has decreased significantly. Although yesterday it would have been twice as much. Check your statistics.
Same. But I've also had months where my payment was higher than what was reported, so maybe this will work itself out by payday, or maybe they caught their mistake and are taking it out of this month.
They did say last year that they're re-working their commission structure and that it would take a few months to shake out, so things still might be in flux.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst. That's been my philosophy in this business as of late.
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How much do you get from 1 video download and from 1 image download ? Thousands of downloads that you report seem very positive.
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How much do you get from 1 video download and from 1 image download ? Thousands of downloads that you report seem very positive.
Based on my numbers (& estimating a little bit, because I'd have to do some extra math assuming their calculations are right, and I don't feel like doing that right now) - I'd guess between $0.15 and $0.25
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How much do you get from 1 video download and from 1 image download ? Thousands of downloads that you report seem very positive.
50 cents per video.
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Thanks for the info. Does sending images make sense or are they specialized in video mostly ?
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Historically, it worked out to about 50 cents per download for videos. Now they've finalised their exciting updates to how they calculate payouts... it seems more like 10 to 15 cents.
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Historically, it worked out to about 50 cents per download for videos. Now they've finalised their exciting updates to how they calculate payouts... it seems more like 10 to 15 cents.
As I understand it, the final amounts are known only at the time of payment.
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Yeah, I'm on about the past few months... probably less than $0.10 to $0.15 when May and June are all wrapped up.