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« on: November 08, 2019, 13:15 »
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Hello, I thought all of you might enjoy this https://youtu.be/Cpgu8UVrvaM   Would love to hear your opinions on this below! Thanks
« Last Edit: November 08, 2019, 16:54 by jjneff »


« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 14:54 »
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Offtopic,

never use viewed clip links, ending at ...&time=xxx,

only a clear link leads to the normal start of the clip :)

« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 17:15 »
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Thank-you so much! Fixed the link sorry about that!

« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 18:06 »
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Well done. I appreciated hearing what you had to say. I think you hit the mark on all the agencies.

« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2019, 02:41 »
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Love the video!

And I agree that Adobe is fantastic in the way they communicate with artists and the offer of getting a free creative cloud set for a year is very, very generous.

They do need to add better buyer tools. I think at this point buyers still cannot search my portfolio by keyword when they come to my site.

However my personal favorite is blackboxglobal.

It is really simple to just upload once and then let them distribute and they have a wonderfully alive and vibrant community in their facebook group.

The team spirit seems to be even stronger than what I remember from the old istock exclusive days.

I also think having a happily chirping producer community of 50 000 people creates a lot of positive vibes on the net. If they ever decide to also sell direct or maybe add a new stock media division with material for direct licensing, they are well set up to do that.

I hope Adobe improves the buying tools for their customers and then gets a lot more sales.

The more artist friendly sites should also be the most customer friendly sites. I believe that either you know how to be of service to people and can communicate well, or you cant.




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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 04:23 »
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Interesting. Will take a look at Vimeo.

Thanks for sharing!

« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 05:27 »
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Love the video!

However my personal favorite is blackboxglobal.

No one of professional stock contributors will throw away 15% of their commission to give it to black box.
If you use tools like stocksubmitter its same easy, but you have your 15% with you.
Bb only for nobrainers, because its easier.

« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 09:27 »
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I didnt realize that pond5 changed the exclusive rules again, so its back to all or nothing?


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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2019, 09:28 »
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Nice vid by the way, i love having access to info like that!


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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2019, 11:41 »
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Add me to the list of those saying Thank you! This was my first time to watch one of your videos. I enjoyed it and learned something too.

Nice to connect a name and static photo on MSG to an animated face and voice on YouTube. :)

« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2019, 20:55 »
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Thank-you for all the kind comments! I am just tryin to give people good information on this industry. No do do not have to be all Exclusive on Pond5, it started that way and then they changed it which only confused people and was a bod move. I will do my best to keep us all in the loop the best I can. I love BB as well and the 15% is a wash as you get a higher % from SS per download as you would on your own. Not for everyone but it is not a bad choice for stock in my opinion.  I did not include them as they are not a stock agency.

« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2019, 21:53 »
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Love the video!

However my personal favorite is blackboxglobal.

No one of professional stock contributors will throw away 15% of their commission to give it to black box.
If you use tools like stocksubmitter its same easy, but you have your 15% with you.
Bb only for nobrainers, because its easier.
This has been in my mind as well. Why pay that extra 15% for something that stock submitter does. Especially since it allows you to have control of your images.

Don't understand the bit about SS giving higher royalty through blackbox

« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2019, 02:05 »
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Love the video!

However my personal favorite is blackboxglobal.

No one of professional stock contributors will throw away 15% of their commission to give it to black box.
If you use tools like stocksubmitter its same easy, but you have your 15% with you.
Bb only for nobrainers, because its easier.
This has been in my mind as well. Why pay that extra 15% for something that stock submitter does. Especially since it allows you to have control of your images.

Don't understand the bit about SS giving higher royalty through blackbox

Still a newbie but except giving away an extra 15% for someone that might never heard and describe / keyword correct any local or folklore content I upload, I don't get how people are excited that their files are "submitted to all major agencies" without control after all those stories and threads I have read here about "how can I pull my content off {agency}" problems. I don't believe that I produce that high quality that any client will ever ask exclusive rights and I will have to pull a file out of a marketplace, I simply want to have control over my files.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2019, 06:43 »
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I love BB as well and the 15% is a wash as you get a higher % from SS per download as you would on your own.

Does Blackbox eliminate the $1.50 video downloads?  How does the SS return per download at Blackbox compare to uploading directly to SS (@ 30% royalty level)?
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 06:59 by trek »

« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2019, 07:33 »
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I love BB as well and the 15% is a wash as you get a higher % from SS per download as you would on your own.


Since Blackbox is in Canada. Do they disclose the 10% that the IRS withholds for Canadians on Film Royalties? or have they found away around that?

That seems to be more like  23.5% rather than 15%

and Does the CRA withhold another 10% when Blackbox pays out to US residents?
31.2% if that's the case.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 08:13 by martinrichard »

« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2019, 08:19 »
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I can't answer the tax questions, BB gets a higher % than you on your own and passes that along to you so you get more per sale on ShuttterStock. Now keep in mind this service is not for everyone! If you want full control over your work then do not use BB! It is a huge time saver and you need to factor that in as well as time is money. To each their own on this.

« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2019, 08:46 »
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I can't answer the tax questions, BB gets a higher % than you on your own and passes that along to you so you get more per sale on ShuttterStock. Now keep in mind this service is not for everyone! If you want full control over your work then do not use BB! It is a huge time saver and you need to factor that in as well as time is money. To each their own on this.

But how do they get higher percentage? Do they have a special contract with SS?


« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2019, 09:38 »
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Yes they have a different contract with them.

« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2019, 21:00 »
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I'm thinking of trying a test batch.  I like the revenue share (for co-productions) function.  Is there a payout minimum? 

« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2019, 21:01 »
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not sure if there is, might be $100

« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2019, 21:25 »
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I like the revenue share (for co-productions) function.  Is there a payout minimum?

The revenue sharing is the only reason I'd use BB. I wish agencies did this themselves.

And no, I got a $4.66 payout from them once.

« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2019, 21:43 »
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I like the revenue share (for co-productions) function.  Is there a payout minimum?

The revenue sharing is the only reason I'd use BB. I wish agencies did this themselves.

And no, I got a $4.66 payout from them once.

Thanks for the reply.  Another question:

Are there restrictions regarding removing existing material from the agencies and then re-uploading those clips to Blackbox? 
« Last Edit: November 10, 2019, 21:46 by trek »

« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2019, 01:26 »
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They want the material to be exclusive, so you can remove a series and give it to them, however they prefer new material  obviously. They do not  encourage you to give up or close other portfolios, the way pond5 did.

I treat bb as an additional agency.

With 167 of mostly editorial clips I earned 633 dollars in 16 months. I am 100% certain I would have earned less if I had distributed  myself. They are not stellar clips.

They dont just have their own royalty negotiations that an individual contributor cannot do, unless you are a stock machine, they also seem to get better rankings in search engines.

I often find my bb material before clips from my individual portfolio.

However, I will always also send to ny own ports.

For those who complain about the 15%...many of us in photos also work with distributors like cavan, eyeem, westend or even stocksy that distributes via adobe.

But there you anyway get just 50% and with distribution costs, I might just be getting 10% of what the buyer actually paid.

Also pond5 distributes via partners and they take 60%. On a distribution sale you have no idea what your real royalty is.

So distribution via bb is much cheaper than pond5 partner deals.

On vimeo I have clips via bb and also pond5. if both have the same royalty with vimeo then I will get a lot more with bb.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 01:32 by cobalt »

« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2019, 06:56 »
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Another issue I have with BB is when my clips get reviewed, it says "online" in my admin panel.  But, online where?  Which agencies took the clips?  Which agencies rejected any? 

And if some were rejected, what was the reason?  Perhaps it was something that could be fixed simply and resubmitted, but I don't know what the issue was or from where the rejection came from.

« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2019, 07:16 »
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I feel that is a problem and hope in the future it can be addressed, at least let us know what sites accepted our clips.


 

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