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« on: October 25, 2010, 12:06 »
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Good day to all!

I am a representative Swisstock Photo Bank - www.swisstock.com [nofollow]

We are pleased to announce the launch of the first phase of the new microstock agency -www.swisstock.com [nofollow]
At this stage, was a start only for contributors, which will increase the percentage of cash payments, by uploading their photos\illustrations.

Full launch of the project (store opening) is provided at the end of 2010.

More about our campaign can be found on the official website - www.swisstock.com [nofollow]

I would be grateful for your questions, comments and suggestions!

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,
Oliver Zag
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 12:19 by Swisstock.manager »


RT


« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 12:24 »
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I must admit the commission levels look interesting although I'd be concerned where you're getting the revenue to run and market the site when you're paying up to 70% in commission.

Without a decent marketing campaign how do you intend to get the sales, oh and I think it would be important to let people know how much the images are selling for as I couldn't find any info on the site.

Something I'll keep my eye on though.

« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 12:36 »
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Can you please explain the term " ...exclusive conditions of participation."? Thanks...jp

« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 12:41 »
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Can you please explain the term " ...exclusive conditions of participation."? Thanks...jp

I guess exclusive doesn't mean exclusive..! It is more like a really cool thing eheh :P

« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 12:47 »
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no office address, no phone number, no single person name on the site - and you are asking for a photocopy of my passport! Great start :D

« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 13:03 »
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 13:15 »
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oh yes, I thought I heard the name somewhere, so now I know why :)

« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 13:17 »
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Hallo Herr Zag,

gibt es in der Schweiz keine Impressumspflicht?

Gru
Tom

« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 13:53 »
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Anybody else having a deja vu?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/new-swiss-stock/25/ [nofollow]

 ???
A year ago we had a leak of information. It is a complete anti-advertising, to which we have no relationship, although it was about us.

« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 14:00 »
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no office address, no phone number, no single person name on the site - and you are asking for a photocopy of my passport! Great start :D
Hello. At the moment, we continue to fill the resource with all the necessary information, in the near future you will see all our contact addresses and telephone numbers of technical support, legal addresses and much more, so as not to mislead you. At this stage, the resource is in beta testing, it may take some time. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience.

« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 14:04 »
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Quote
...that grants the possibility of demonstration and promotion of creative works as photos, paintings, illustrations etc., made by billions of creative minds

Billions of creative minds...? So you expect the whole of mankind to become contributors? Well, at least you are thinking big!  :P

« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 14:05 »
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Hallo Herr Zag,

gibt es in der Schweiz keine Impressumspflicht?

Gru
Tom
Hallo. Natrlich gibt es. In naher Zukunft werden alle Formen und Regeln auf unserer Website verfgbar.

« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 14:36 »
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Hallo Herr Zag,

gibt es in der Schweiz keine Impressumspflicht?

Gru
Tom
Hallo. Natrlich gibt es. In naher Zukunft werden alle Formen und Regeln auf unserer Website verfgbar.

Gibt es dann auch Mitarbeiter die Deutsch als Muttersprache haben?

Just commenting that the sentence above wasnt written by a native German speaker.

Maybe you should soon disclose which company is driving this website and where it is located.  In Switzerland, like in Germany, all businesses have to have an "Impressum" page with company details, name of the Managing Director etc...as soon as they put up a website, even if it is a beta test. If you dont any competitor can sue you immediatly.

So - are you a Swiss company, based in Switzerland?

And why are you making the UK your legal base?

From your website:

"Applicable law
These terms and conditions and the content of this website are governed by English law whose courts shall have exclusive jurisdiction This Web site can be accessed from all territories of United Kingdom, as well as from other countries around the world. As each of these jurisdictions has laws that may differ from those of United Kingdom, by accessing this Web site, you acknowledge and agree that all matters relating to access to, or use of this Web site shall be governed by English law applicable therein (without reference to conflicts of laws principles).
You also agree that any claims or disputes whatsoever arising hereunder shall be submitted to the exclusive jurisdiction and venue of the courts of United Kingdom and acknowledge that you do so voluntarily."
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 14:43 by cobalt »

alias

« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 14:42 »
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What is the registered name of the company and where is it registered / incorporated ?

I am sure that you would agree that people would be best to not upload their pictures to you or provide you with copies of passport details, payments details etc until you have built your site and provided much more information.

- I see Cobalt has asked same question whilst I was writing that.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 14:50 »
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no office address, no phone number, no single person name on the site - and you are asking for a photocopy of my passport! Great start :D
Hello. At the moment, we continue to fill the resource with all the necessary information, in the near future you will see all our contact addresses and telephone numbers of technical support, legal addresses and much more, so as not to mislead you. At this stage, the resource is in beta testing, it may take some time. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience.

If the previous attempt was "premature," don't you think you should wait until you have something to offer before offering?

« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 15:30 »
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Just commenting that the sentence above wasnt written by a native German speaker.


Much of the website looks like it wasn't written by an English native speaker either.

« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 15:50 »
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It is incredibly ignorant to advertise a new microstock venture to this group without, apparently, doing your homework. Searching related topics here would have alerted you to the dangers of your asking for images without having any of the pertinent information. We are not a bunch of dummies here. We value our time.
If you are just unaware that these issues are important up front, I hope you didn't quit your day job.
There is no way to fix a rotten first impression. You dug yourself into a pretty deep hole.
To sum things up, no sale.


« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 16:20 »
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And the facebook page doesnt have a single "friend" in Switzerland or the UK...

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000082205361

« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 16:27 »
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Dear friends!

Thank you for your comments!

Please note, that at this stage there was a start ONLY for contributors! We are opened only in BETA VERSION by now, which will allow contributors to participate in an unique campaign in the project, till the full start.

Full launch of the project (store opening) is provided at the end of 2010.

Thank you for your questions, comments and suggestions!

« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 16:39 »
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Dear friends!

Thank you for your comments!

Please note, that at this stage there was a start ONLY for contributors! We are opened only in BETA VERSION by now, which will allow contributors to participate in an unique campaign in the project, till the full start.

Full launch of the project (store opening) is provided at the end of 2010.

Thank you for your questions, comments and suggestions!

Still, where is the Impressum if you claim to be "Swiss"? I did work on German and Swiss site launches, and that is the first thing that went up, whether Beta or not. The German managers were pretty firm about that

« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 17:02 »
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Info from whois:

Registrant:
   ock
   B.V.
   Bern,  268
   Switzerland

   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
   Domain Name: SWISSTOCK.COM
      Created on: 30-Jun-09
      Expires on: 30-Jun-11
      Last Updated on: 11-Oct-10

   Administrative Contact:
      (Global CH), Swisstock  [email protected]
      ock
      B.V.
      Bern,  268
      Switzerland
      +41.60961349      Fax --

   Technical Contact:
      (Global CH), Swisstock  [email protected]
      ock
      B.V.
      Bern,  268
      Switzerland
      +41.60961349      Fax --

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.SWISSTOCK.COM
      NS2.SWISSTOCK.COM

« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 17:20 »
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This is the address given to the domain registrar. It does not list a company as the owner or that the company is located in Switzerland.

In Germany there are very high fines for not adding an impressum immediatly. I know, because it happened to a friend of mine. He had to pay over 6000 euros in fines because the impressum was put up only ONE WEEK after the website went online. It also was a beta version they were still working on. The court didnt care. The law is the law. As soon as you operate a commercial website you have to have an Impressum page with all company details. And since they are signing up new business partners through this web site, they are a full commercial website under Swiss law (Swiss business laws are often more strict than those in Germany).

So either they are not based in Switzerland or if they are, they are extremely naive and have no business experience.

« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 18:10 »
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It's not important. lets see whats next !!!!!
I'm interested
 :-* :-* :-*

« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 18:20 »
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A year ago we had a leak of information. It is a complete anti-advertising, to which we have no relationship, although it was about us.
Yes it was, and it was by me. I just like to leak.  :P
You were hosted then in Moldavia, piggybacking on the fame of the "Swiss" brand name. You had hidden all your WHOIS info. There still is no real business info on your site but you made some progress hosting your site physically in Switzerland. To be trustworthy in business, more will be needed, alas, than changing the physical location of the server and putting Swiss flags all over the landing page.  ;)

« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 18:25 »
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so what % they give the author? ::) :o

« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2010, 18:27 »
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Site is now down (you under construction page only) :-)

« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2010, 18:36 »
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 ???
works well.
everything is fine ...
I posted my work


« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2010, 18:37 »
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I'm interested
 :-* :-* :-*
I prefer Agatha Christie for a good mystery story. At least you have to wait till the last pages to know who did it. ;)
PS - Do you work for them, Igor?  :P
« Last Edit: October 25, 2010, 18:42 by FD-regular »

« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2010, 18:39 »
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 :) :) ;) ;) ;)

RacePhoto

« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2010, 22:20 »
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no office address, no phone number, no single person name on the site - and you are asking for a photocopy of my passport! Great start :D

"Heigh protection of personal information;"  :D  ::)

Nothing personal with this site, but there are too many already. Too many headed for failure for me to waste my time joining.

If Look Magazine or Microsoft decided to jump into the market, I'd say the same thing. But a group who's trying to hide their identity and cover up their true origin and background? Not a chance.

« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2010, 00:02 »
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"Heigh protection of personal information;"  :D  ::)
Although my knowledge of the Swiss language degraded a bit lately, it doesn't sound like a typo a native Swiss speaker would make.  ;) In case of litigation, does anybody have experience with Moldovian lawyers? Could they be bribed with Swiss cheese made in Xi'ang?  :P
« Last Edit: October 26, 2010, 00:05 by FD-regular »

« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2010, 02:16 »
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so this is not a swiss company? the first page is a pictures flooded with swiss flags...?

« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2010, 05:03 »
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Highly dubious. Nobody in his/her sane mind would submit to such a site.

« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2010, 06:17 »
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i wonder any microstock related scam before? what kind of risk on contributors side? the portfolio will be used or shared for download in some sites?

« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2010, 07:30 »
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« Last Edit: October 26, 2010, 08:14 by Danicek »

« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2010, 07:49 »
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We already need a lot of trust, that all these agencies deal properly with the accounting and management of our images, and don't occasionally 'forget' to pay our commissions.

No need to deal with a company that can't even get a simple website set up properly and according to legal requirements. Why should I assume that they will do the much more complicated issues of accounting properly?

« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2010, 07:59 »
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the guy from the other thread (last year) is from moldavia.
some of the people from the facebook group are also from moldavia.
so the new stock site is clearly from moldavia, second try :).


« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2010, 16:00 »
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I posted my work on swisstock.com
All is well!

m@m

« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2010, 16:52 »
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GOOD FOR YOU!!! ::)

« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2010, 16:57 »
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Highly dubious. Nobody in his/her sane mind would submit to such a site.

Correct.

Poncke

« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2012, 05:43 »
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500 - Internal Server Error

« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2012, 07:40 »
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how much are you paying for uploads?

« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2012, 08:02 »
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OLD THREAD


 

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