Author Topic: New stock agency - FAA / Pixels.com (Read 45287 times)

Ron · « **Reply #200 on:** March 27, 2014, 03:04 »

So its not ok to critique his work and website, but it is ok for YOU to attack me on a personal level, when I have never spoken or seen you before you chose to reply to my comment here? I call that hypocrite and wish you a good day.

WolfGallery · « **Reply #201 on:** March 27, 2014, 03:25 »

Quote from: Ron on March 27, 2014, 03:04

So its not ok to critique his work and website, but it is ok for YOU to attack me on a personal level, when I have never spoken or seen you before you chose to reply to my comment here? I call that hypocrite and wish you a good day.

Have you the trolling handbook because thats typical behavior to attack someone and then turn it around and play victim when called on your actions. There's a couple lessons for you to learn here; If you can't take criticism yourself then don't criticise others. Also you will attract more bees with honey instead of vinegar. Knocking competitors every chance you get will not work in your favor in a buyers eyes or in the eyes of your contemporaries... at least not the professional ones.
Have a good day.

DF_Studios · « **Reply #202 on:** March 27, 2014, 06:22 »

stockastic · « **Reply #203 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:34 »

Quote from: DF_Studios on March 27, 2014, 06:22

How did this thread get hijacked by Qtalk?

It started as criticism of FAA's licensing plan, moved on to criticism of content on FAA, from there to general ridicule of amateur art photography, and Q in particular.

The great thing is that unlike some of the work on FAA, successful stock photography is completely free of cliches, repetition and over-used techniques. :-)

DF_Studios · « **Reply #204 on:** March 27, 2014, 10:02 »

Stock is a such a great reality check. Either you have what the client needs or you don't. You're dealing with professional image buyers. No amount of "awesome", "most beautiful", "The greatest", "most unique" statements will change the outcome.

stockastic · « **Reply #205 on:** March 27, 2014, 12:57 »

I wouldn't say that stock marketing is totally free of hyperbole.

WolfGallery · « **Reply #206 on:** March 27, 2014, 13:22 »

LOL!!! Pretty funny baiting there guys. Sorry I'm not going to bite at the bait because its rather silly to argue stock vs. art because they are two different things but I must say you have given me a good laugh.

Now.....


The Muppet Show Singers - "Why Can't We Be Friends"

: D

Keep smiling and hopefully you're getting some nice spring weather now wherever you are.
Enjoy the day. : )

DF_Studios · « **Reply #207 on:** March 27, 2014, 13:25 »

I like this approach:

When asked how she built such a large Facebook following, Brooke says it all comes down to passion. “I have a philosophy that if I put what I do out there with passion, someone else will feel that passion, too,” she says. “Even on Facebook, you need to be sincere and put your best foot forward. Understand your unique voice, because everyone has one, and present it. Whether you have one follower or one million, the best thing to do is to train yourself to be grateful for each individual supporter and never let your ego interfere.”

"Find your confidence and present it to others humbly."

http://blog.photoshelter.com/2014/02/selling-fine-art-photography-tip-2-passion-secret-244k-facebook-followers-brooke-shaden/

WolfGallery · « **Reply #208 on:** March 27, 2014, 13:42 »

Now there ya go! Now you can see a big reason why I didn't bite the bait. Personally I don't feel the need to defend my own art and I don't feel the need to talk it up either. I just present it and it's up to the viewers if they like it or not. I don't care who you are, either the most known or the most unknown, it doesn't matter, there will be some who like what you do and some who won't. I don't worry about it and I get my joy while creating it...anything positive that comes from it after creating it is just a bonus. : )

I will jump to the defense of friends when they are under attack for no good reason, though. Regardless if some here agree or disagree with Gunter on some issues, he's a nice person and he simply has invited others to participate on his site ( which he pays for ) if they would like to at no cost to them. It's another place to show one's work if they want to and he's very generous in offering it and it's ridiculous to me that he would get attacked for that. He's put in a lot of work to promote his own work but in also promoting others work. Heck, he could just put all his efforts into promoting only his own so his support of other artists should be commended.

DF_Studios · « **Reply #209 on:** March 27, 2014, 14:07 »

I did a quick look at a couple of top fine art photographer's sites - Clyde Butcher and Peter Lik. Two artists whose brick and mortar galleries I've visited. I wanted to see if they used the same sort of language in their sales language. Nope. They list awards and accomplishments.

I did find an interesting similarity in the bios - both are from "humble beginnings" - this made me look further low and behold! There is a paper online that discusses this common mythology created around artists:

Quote

To summarize the basic points of the heroic artist's biography:

- the hero demonstrates talent at an early age

- often poor from a lower social class

- undergoes a turning point through meeting a helper, advisor, teacher (this provides a bipolarity to the biography whereby the artist's personality is allowed to rise out of his humble beginnings and the raising up is carried out by the helper)

- premonitions and the helper/guide is present at the beginning of all biographies.

It is through these elements that we are convinced that the artist is not like other ordinary people, and, after all, the artist in any society can allow himself something more than others can. In this way the hero motif is connected to the artist myth.

http://www.folklore.ee/folklore/vol15/myth.htm

WolfGallery · « **Reply #210 on:** March 27, 2014, 14:59 »

There isn't any advertising anywhere that I've ever seen the doesn't have some aspect of hype to it. His advertising doesn't "invite" criticism....it's just the highly critical who would complain about something like that. I've owned my own brick and mortar gallery and so does Greg who helps run the Q site. Advertising at a physical gallery and an online gallery is too different things although with both one has to grab peoples attention in some way. If they are walking by then the art in the window alone may work but one has to draw those in who are not walking by in way of advertising in the newspaper, etc. Also even news articles try to grab peoples attention with their headlines and so do TV shows, etc., etc., etc. So although I don't talk myself up, I'm thinking maybe I should a little more at least to some extent. Gunter is doing nothing different than all those and more that I've mentioned and I don't see how that makes him a bad guy especially when I know for a fact he will readily admit mistakes and doesn't claim to be perfect ( except in jest lol! ).

Hey, Instead of worrying about how Gunter advertises his site...you should be asking yourself what have you done for others lately? Do you try to help promote others work or only your own?
And ask yourself, how in the world does Gunter's advertising hurt you in any way shape or form? Does it even affect you at all in any way? No, it doesn't. There are many more important things you could be concerned about thats going on in the world...or even in the stock world as I see many issues on this forum that are being discussed. Spending time complaining about how one person advertises their website seems rather petty and insignificant to be spending your time on especially when it's doing no harm to you or anyone else.

My advice to you would be to concern yourself with the big stuff thats harmful to you and others and don't sweat the small stuff that doesn't harm you or anyone else at all. ; ) Now although I'm sure you will still be vying for attention, sorry , gotta go, I've got something going on this weekend and I have a lot to get done beforehand, so stay frosty if you must, peace out! : )

DF_Studios · « **Reply #211 on:** March 27, 2014, 15:10 »

I'm just pointing out what the source of ridicule might be. \

Ron · « **Reply #212 on:** March 27, 2014, 15:42 »

No one attacked Gunter, no one called him a bad guy. His website and his work ethics got criticism and that is not a personal attack. If it is perceived as such, I am sorry. Stop being a Calimero.

Mantis · « **Reply #213 on:** March 27, 2014, 16:52 »

" Can't we all just get along?" Famous quote from Rodney King. He's dead now.

WolfGallery · « **Reply #214 on:** March 27, 2014, 18:44 »

Okay, okay...since y'all are calling for an encore, I'm appearing one last time before I go.

1.) Anyone can review this thread and see who started what and when so I hate to break it to ya but you are only fooling yourself.

2. ) What the heck is a Calimero?? You mean this?.....


Calimero ^^

Well I had to look it up and I don't think you are being too kind to yourself likening yourself to a rat.
And, I don't understand the language. I'm American so I think you should liken me to Bugs Bunny instead.....and I have to say, you do resemble Yosemite Sam, Semmick! LOL! ; )


Classic Yosemite Sam vs Bugs

3. ) Congratulations! Y'all have finally convinced me that QTalk IS awesome! Gunter and all participants on QTalk are awesome it's full of awesome art and I'm pretty awesome too! : D

All other awesome folks are welcome to join!
Trolls need not apply ( sorry guys )

http://qthecollection.com/qtalk/index.php

Now thats it, thats all you get here. If you want more entertainment from me I'll be performing exclusively at the totally AWESOME QTalk stage! Adios! : )

Mantis · « **Reply #215 on:** March 27, 2014, 18:47 »

Quote from: WolfGallery on March 27, 2014, 18:44

Okay, okay...since y'all are calling for an encore, I'm appearing one last time before I go.

1.) Anyone can review this thread and see who started what and when so I hate to break it to ya but you are only fooling yourself.

2. ) What the heck is a Calimero?? You mean this?.....

Calimero ^^

Well I had to look it up and I don't think you are being too kind to yourself likening yourself to a rat.
And, I don't understand the language. I'm American so I think you should liken me to Bugs Bunny instead.....and I have to say, you do resemble Yosemite Sam, Semmick! LOL! ; )

Classic Yosemite Sam vs Bugs

3. ) Congratulations! Y'all have finally convinced me that QTalk IS awesome! Gunter and all participants on QTalk are awesome it's full of awesome art and I'm pretty awesome too! : D

All other awesome folks are welcome to join!
Trolls need not apply ( sorry guys )

http://qthecollection.com/qtalk/index.php

Now thats it, thats all you get here. If you want more entertainment from me I'll be performing exclusively at the totally AWESOME QTalk stage! Adios! : )

AWESOME!

WolfGallery · « **Reply #216 on:** March 27, 2014, 18:56 »

Awww, shucks, ya got me blushing ...but thanks!

luissantos84 · « **Reply #217 on:** March 27, 2014, 19:12 »

guess you missed the "bolded" Adios!

rimglow · « **Reply #218 on:** March 27, 2014, 19:54 »

Quote from: WolfGallery on March 27, 2014, 18:56

Awww, shucks, ya got me blushing ...but thanks!

"How can I miss you when you won't go away?
Keep telling you day after day
But you won't listen, you always stay and stay
How can I miss you when you won't go away?"

- Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks

DF_Studios · « **Reply #219 on:** March 28, 2014, 16:14 »

So one of the regulars on FAA posted a nice, helpful account of a recent licensing deal. The whole thing happened with email negotiation. Potential buyer sees an image they like, send the contributor an email, details go back and forth. Deal done.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #220 on:** March 28, 2014, 16:42 »

And apparently for a much higher price than FAA recommended stock price.

WolfGallery · « **Reply #221 on:** March 29, 2014, 18:49 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on March 27, 2014, 19:12

guess you missed the "bolded" Adios!

No, you missed the sarcastic wit and purposely over-the-top attitude of Bugs Bunny that I instilled in the #3 part of my previous post and you also missed that the last thank you response was also said in the way of how Bugs would often respond to Yosemite Sam by simply ignoring his hater attitude and mean spirited remarks and then replying to him in a pleasant but mocking fashion which would just infuriate Sam further when he did on occasion finally realize he was really just being mocked.

WolfGallery · « **Reply #222 on:** March 29, 2014, 18:52 »

Quote from: rimglow on March 27, 2014, 19:54

Quote from: WolfGallery on March 27, 2014, 18:56
Awww, shucks, ya got me blushing ...but thanks!

"How can I miss you when you won't go away?
Keep telling you day after day
But you won't listen, you always stay and stay
How can I miss you when you won't go away?"

- Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks

Well, I don't want you to miss me so I'm back.

How nice though...a song dedication.

Here is one for you in return....


Bon Jovi - Have A Nice Day

So whoever you are..... have a nice day!

WolfGallery · « **Reply #223 on:** March 29, 2014, 19:16 »

Quote from: DF_Studios on March 28, 2014, 16:14

So one of the regulars on FAA posted a nice, helpful account of a recent licensing deal. The whole thing happened with email negotiation. Potential buyer sees an image they like, send the contributor an email, details go back and forth. Deal done. Where is it that FAA justifies a commission?

Pixels/FAA will more than likely will be flooded with tons more stock images when this program starts but I don't see it benefiting standard stock picture takers since they will put up their prices higher than what they get on stock sites and with the additional 40% markup I don't see why any buyers of stock would go to Pixels to buy them when they can get the same things at stock sites for far, far less.

I do see that this could be beneficial for fine artists and buyers who are looking for something more unique and who have a purpose for licensing an artistic image that is different than what stock images calls for. Although as it is now anyone wanting to license fine art can and do just contact the artist directly, some artists might not want to haggle back and forth over a contract so they might prefer to just use something like Sean plans to do on Pixels. Setting the licensing up also advertises that the artist offers licenses without anyone needing to ask.

But with that said, I agree with others and said when this was announced that I would like to know exactly how that 40% markup is justified, i.e. earned, since those that want to license something can simply contact the artist without going through a middleman and paying their markup. 40% is pretty high to add to the cost for just convenience and there is no marketing done for the artists. It's seems especially ridiculous if artists are expected to market themselves just as they are now expected to do on FAA. If one has to do all the marketing anyway why should they gain buyers and then go through Pixels for their licensing at all? But... Sean said he will explain the program fully when he starts it up in April, so hopefully that question and others will be answered when the time comes.

DF_Studios · « **Reply #224 on:** March 30, 2014, 13:11 »

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