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« on: February 13, 2019, 12:44 »
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Just got a new toy that is really fun. Removu K1 gimbal 4k video camera. B&H had it at 50% off ,which was $ 199.00. What is cool about it is that you can put it in you shirt/coat pocket. Quality is quit good for a small image size video. The gimbal is flawless with very steady images. Sometimes a new toy will get you out to take photos. 


« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 09:45 »
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Yep, I liked that toy!

I had returned it, waiting for the new osmo, but thinking I might go back and get it - because the osmo has lots of 'focus pumping' (which ruins shots), whereas I very rarely noticed that with the RemovU! Only thing is 4K video quality wasn't that great for the removu.

« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 10:53 »
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What I have seen  with the Removu  is if you are outdoors the video is pretty good. Clearly good enough for Stock. The few clips I have uploaded have been accepted. If you are in a indoors in a low light area it has a lot of noise and poor saturation. Just the fact you can carry it around and not have the look of a big camera is cool.

« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 11:10 »
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What I have seen  with the Removu  is if you are outdoors the video is pretty good. Clearly good enough for Stock. The few clips I have uploaded have been accepted. If you are in a indoors in a low light area it has a lot of noise and poor saturation. Just the fact you can carry it around and not have the look of a big camera is cool.

Yes, I agree - I found I need to have very bright light conditions. Anything less had lots of noise. And although you could 'edit' that noise out through post processing, that's a really time consuming process. I found I did get a lot of 'curious' glances as to what I was holding though, which was kind of fun!

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2019, 16:57 »
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Yep, I liked that toy!

I had returned it, waiting for the new osmo, but thinking I might go back and get it - because the osmo has lots of 'focus pumping' (which ruins shots), whereas I very rarely noticed that with the RemovU! Only thing is 4K video quality wasn't that great for the removu.

Oh thanks, I begged for anyone the SS forum to review their OSMO, especially one guy who said he was buying one in Dec. and if the least problem is focus pumping, NO WAY, I'd never want one. I could put up with less than perfect and small issues, but if it's like the Nikon Keymission 80 which I owned and sold because it had focus pumping or racking or whatever other names it might be, like searching and inconsistent, I don't want one.

Toy would be fun, but I have a nice selection of old and recent GoPros, which do what I want. My main search for an action camera isn't what most people want. That's why the 80 was such a hope. 80 degree field of view, not in the hundreds. Even the GoPro set at narrow, doesn't make it, because that automatically sets the image size down.

Something for video would be nice. Otherwise there's another use.

4K action camera, narrow field of view, so I'm not shooting with the wide or fisheye effect or view. Anyone? Thanks for a clue. Needs to be weather resistant action camera since it will be outdoors remote, without being attended or access for hours. Weather changes in minutes in the Mid-West.  ;)

Maybe mounted something like this taking time-lapse.




« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2019, 23:22 »
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Oh thanks, I begged for anyone the SS forum to review their OSMO, especially one guy who said he was buying one in Dec. and if the least problem is focus pumping, NO WAY, I'd never want one. I could put up with less than perfect and small issues, but if it's like the Nikon Keymission 80 which I owned and sold because it had focus pumping or racking or whatever other names it might be, like searching and inconsistent, I don't want one.

Yes, feel free to ask me any questions...

I like it because it is super compact - but I've found there are only really specific types of shots I can take with it otherwise I get the focus pumping... They recently did add AFS (as opposed to AFC - which caused the pumping) - but then - although now I no longer got the pumping - I found I was getting blurry shots...

I also found that (ironically) even though it is/was supposed to be a stablizer - if I was holding it in my hand and a subject was relatively close to me (i.e., say 10-15 feet away) - the subject would 'bounce' up and down unless I put the 'stabilizer' on an even surface :P (aka makeshift tripod)...

So, it's really only great for long focus landscape shots/videos, OR - if you want to carry around a super compact camera with you. If you get any subjects walking across your FOV while doing a video, or you do a pan and there are significant variances in distance of objects - you'll get the focus pumping...

I found the RemovU (which I may consider repurchasing, even though it is a lot bulkier/larger) - was better at keep a fairly even/consistent shot for pans/etc with different distanced objects. And if I recall correctly - it didn't go haywire as soon as someone walked across your FOV.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2019, 13:58 »
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Oh thanks, I begged for anyone the SS forum to review their OSMO, especially one guy who said he was buying one in Dec. and if the least problem is focus pumping, NO WAY, I'd never want one. I could put up with less than perfect and small issues, but if it's like the Nikon Keymission 80 which I owned and sold because it had focus pumping or racking or whatever other names it might be, like searching and inconsistent, I don't want one.

Yes, feel free to ask me any questions...

I like it because it is super compact - but I've found there are only really specific types of shots I can take with it otherwise I get the focus pumping... They recently did add AFS (as opposed to AFC - which caused the pumping) - but then - although now I no longer got the pumping - I found I was getting blurry shots...

I also found that (ironically) even though it is/was supposed to be a stablizer - if I was holding it in my hand and a subject was relatively close to me (i.e., say 10-15 feet away) - the subject would 'bounce' up and down unless I put the 'stabilizer' on an even surface :P (aka makeshift tripod)...

So, it's really only great for long focus landscape shots/videos, OR - if you want to carry around a super compact camera with you. If you get any subjects walking across your FOV while doing a video, or you do a pan and there are significant variances in distance of objects - you'll get the focus pumping...

I found the RemovU (which I may consider repurchasing, even though it is a lot bulkier/larger) - was better at keep a fairly even/consistent shot for pans/etc with different distanced objects. And if I recall correctly - it didn't go haywire as soon as someone walked across your FOV.

Thanks, I'm convinced I don't want one. Like most products the sales pitch is only going to tell us the best points and not mention the flaws.  :)

« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2019, 16:58 »
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4K action camera, narrow field of view, so I'm not shooting with the wide or fisheye effect or view. Anyone? Thanks for a clue. Needs to be weather resistant action camera since it will be outdoors remote, without being attended or access for hours. Weather changes in minutes in the Mid-West.  ;)

Maybe mounted something like this taking time-lapse.

May I disagree in fisheye view. Shooting wide and applying lens correction in post is not that much time consuming, assuming for 30-60 second clips or timelapses again stretched to 30-60 seconds. Rendering some color correction or grading takes much more time and resources! :)

As for weatherproof gear, if this helps, I use and if I may suggest (as it can be found used or new low priced FeiyuTech WG2. Tested in both salt and non salt water, rain and diving in non-salt water for longer period of time. It can perform moving timelapses and seems sturdy. Bad things are, so and so App to control or change parameters and non exchangeable batteries.
Separating gimbal from camera have some advantages. Camera can be used individually, can be replaced, and of course upgraded to a newer model with more capabilities Ok, can be also destroyed but still having a usable gimbal :D

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2019, 18:38 »
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4K action camera, narrow field of view, so I'm not shooting with the wide or fisheye effect or view. Anyone? Thanks for a clue. Needs to be weather resistant action camera since it will be outdoors remote, without being attended or access for hours. Weather changes in minutes in the Mid-West.  ;)

Maybe mounted something like this taking time-lapse.

May I disagree in fisheye view. Shooting wide and applying lens correction in post is not that much time consuming, assuming for 30-60 second clips or timelapses again stretched to 30-60 seconds. Rendering some color correction or grading takes much more time and resources! :)

As for weatherproof gear, if this helps, I use and if I may suggest (as it can be found used or new low priced FeiyuTech WG2. Tested in both salt and non salt water, rain and diving in non-salt water for longer period of time. It can perform moving timelapses and seems sturdy. Bad things are, so and so App to control or change parameters and non exchangeable batteries.
Separating gimbal from camera have some advantages. Camera can be used individually, can be replaced, and of course upgraded to a newer model with more capabilities Ok, can be also destroyed but still having a usable gimbal :D

What do you use to correct the super wide effect?

Here's why I want a narrower field of view.



I think I could have a larger image of one pit stall or two.


« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 01:11 »
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What do you use to correct the super wide effect?

Here's why I want a narrower field of view.

For both actioncams and 10-22mm shots, (native) Premiere Lens Distortion Removal plugin works well most of the times.
With ready presets for GopPro and (Don't have) DJI products, but also customizable settings for curvation etc. to adjust to your taste.
https://helpx.adobe.com/search-results.html?q=lens+distortion&facets_fields=%5B%22applicable_products%22%5D&post_facet_filters=%7B%22applicable_products%22%3A%5B%22Premiere+Pro%22%5D%7D&scope=%5B%22helpx%22%5D&subscope=%5B%5D&limit=10&start_index=0&sort_orderby=relevancy&sort_order=desc

If this helps "Wide View" (1920x1440, 4:3) in (e.g. session4) gives a nice final undistorted cropped 1080p output.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2019, 11:41 »
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What do you use to correct the super wide effect?

Here's why I want a narrower field of view.

For both actioncams and 10-22mm shots, (native) Premiere Lens Distortion Removal plugin works well most of the times.
With ready presets for GopPro and (Don't have) DJI products, but also customizable settings for curvation etc. to adjust to your taste.
https://helpx.adobe.com/search-results.html?q=lens+distortion&facets_fields=%5B%22applicable_products%22%5D&post_facet_filters=%7B%22applicable_products%22%3A%5B%22Premiere+Pro%22%5D%7D&scope=%5B%22helpx%22%5D&subscope=%5B%5D&limit=10&start_index=0&sort_orderby=relevancy&sort_order=desc

If this helps "Wide View" (1920x1440, 4:3) in (e.g. session4) gives a nice final undistorted cropped 1080p output.

Thanks for the tips, I'll go look. The GoPro software is supposed to have some fix view, I'm not impressed.  ;)

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