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gillian vann

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« on: May 22, 2013, 00:00 »
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CEO of Yahoo announces there's no such thing anymore as professional photographers.
oh wow, how is she at qualified to announce this?
and argh, holding such a high global position.

http://gigaom.com/2013/05/20/flickr-gets-revamp-with-1-tb-of-storage-space-free-and-yahoo-gets-new-nyc-office/


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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 01:06 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 01:13 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

The traditional definition of a professional photographer is someone who makes more than half of their income from photography. That has included us since 2005, and probably a whole bunch of other people here.

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 01:22 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

The traditional definition of a professional photographer is someone who makes more than half of their income from photography. That has included us since 2005, and probably a whole bunch of other people here.

Yes thats the traditional definition but as much as we all wish to be labelled pros. In the world of stock?  I doubt it.

rubyroo

« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 01:32 »
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Some good comments under the article.  Hopefully it'll spread like wildfire and she'll be forced to apologise and admit that she didn't know what she was talking about.

What an incredibly idiotic thing to say to the photographic community.  Especially when it insults and alienates the very people most likely to pay the extra fee for the ad-free version.  It truly beggars belief.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 01:34 by rubyroo »

« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 01:57 »
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cue Xanox!

I think Yahoo should concentrate on its own business - they really are on the way out

« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 02:16 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

The traditional definition of a professional photographer is someone who makes more than half of their income from photography. That has included us since 2005, and probably a whole bunch of other people here.


Yes thats the traditional definition but as much as we all wish to be labelled pros. In the world of stock?  I doubt it.

Speak for yourself, sonny.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 02:41 by Travelling-light »

« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 02:26 »
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There are an awful lot of "professional photographers" who use Flickr as part of their nowadays all-important Social Media branding and SEO. I'm not sure yet how this will affect them. Getting into bed with Tumblr may actually improve things for them, in spite of what that clueless wonder Mayer said.

On the other hand, if visitors to the site get buried in crappy image cruft after the Flickr re-design, it may be counter-productive. But it may not. Too early to tell.

1TB storage is nice but I don't trust any of these corporations anymore, especially when they unilaterally change my T&C without consulting me. So what rights will they start asserting over my images that they kindly host?

Actually, at the moment, I'm having a big downer on corporations - software houses, tech companies, factory agriculture, energy producers, all seem to be in league with governments to fleece us, the general population - search the interwebz for Ag-Gag for a recent example of "buying" legislation and of course there's the recent new orphan works copyright legislation in the UK. I wonder who that will ultimately benefit? They're all different cheeks of the same corporate fascist 4rse.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 14:26 by Imagenomad »

« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 02:39 »
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Professional photographers?

Does it matter? There is also a lot of doctors that are not doctors and and search machines that are actually hiding machines.

So what? the whole world is a fraud  egnima.

And to stay in the context: Doesnt matter if the photographers are professional, because the customers arent professional either and image quality is not so important as relevancy and availability.

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 02:50 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

The traditional definition of a professional photographer is someone who makes more than half of their income from photography. That has included us since 2005, and probably a whole bunch of other people here.


Yes thats the traditional definition but as much as we all wish to be labelled pros. In the world of stock?  I doubt it.

Speak for yourself, sonny.

Jim actually. He, he.

« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 02:58 »
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Well there isnt really. Unless you turn to the world of  commissioned photography. I do not think uploading to micros or other stock sources counts as being true pro photography.

The traditional definition of a professional photographer is someone who makes more than half of their income from photography. That has included us since 2005, and probably a whole bunch of other people here.


Yes thats the traditional definition but as much as we all wish to be labelled pros. In the world of stock?  I doubt it.

Speak for yourself, sonny.

Jim actually. He, he.

 ;D ;D ;D

« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 03:06 »
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Wow... I thought I was a professional photographer... Now I really need to find out where my money comes from - it can't be photography! :o

« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 03:10 »
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Actually Perry, it isnt.
You distribute digital files in form of images. Keywords combined with titles and colours. Content.

You can only sell it because they appear in a context.

Also a camara is a smart machine that superfast can map a lot of info into a frame.

« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 03:21 »
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Yes, but about 2/3 of my income comes from commissioned work :)
(Only 1/3 from (micro)stock)

Leo Blanchette

« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 03:30 »
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How can you take that seriously. Aren't they just a bunch of Yahoos?

« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 03:41 »
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There never was any such thing as a professional photographer. To be a profession there would have to be a regulatory body that governed entrance into the business and ensured standards of proficiency (and behaviour) were met by practitioners.

I don't know of anywhere in the world where you have to be licensed by a professional association before you are allowed to practise photography.

« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 03:51 »
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professional
[pruh-fesh-uh-nl]
adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
 .... ... ... ...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional


falstafff

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 03:56 »
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There never was any such thing as a professional photographer. To be a profession there would have to be a regulatory body that governed entrance into the business and ensured standards of proficiency (and behaviour) were met by practitioners.

I don't know of anywhere in the world where you have to be licensed by a professional association before you are allowed to practise photography.

True indeed. The closest thing was the AFAEP in England. Association of fashion and editorial photographers where you had to send in proof of dozens of assignments to become a member. It was never a type of registration or certificate for professionals though.

« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 04:43 »
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professional
[pruh-fesh-uh-nl]
adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
 .... ... ... ...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional


So it's just another word for "work" or "job" by that definition. Not a label that indicates any level of ability or is worth getting excited about, then. 
Another candidate for a "professional body" is the Royal Photographic Society, which has exams for Members and Fellows. If you hire a Fellow of the RPS you can be pretty sure you will have a good job done.

The funniest thing about this coffee-cup-sized storm is that at the root of it is the fact that Flickr's "professionals" are being stripped of the title they paid a web-hosting service to acquire.  Who wouldn't be mad at the thought that they can no longer become professional by dropping twenty bucks into Flickr's account?

Excuse me while I get my PhD in photography by sending off a cheque to London University in Kabul.

ShadySue

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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 04:54 »
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What an incredibly idiotic thing to say to the photographic community.  Especially when it insults and alienates the very people most likely to pay the extra fee for the ad-free version.  It truly beggars belief.
I don't think they're interested in the people who currently pay. It seems that they want me to take up the Free version before August 30th - the 'free' button is very prominent both in the link from the informing email and when I visited the site after the change.
Either they average more than ?$25? per person from ads or they have a nefarious scheme. Or both.

OM

« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 05:55 »
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Off topic but did anyone else notice this bit of the article:

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Flickr is getting three big updates. All users will get 1 terabyte of photo storage for free. The sites interface is also being redesigned to focus on full-resolution photos both in photo browsing and in search rather than words and links. Users will be able to share the full-resolution photos by email, Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest and Tumblr.

Well, if that doesn't encourage theft, I don't know what will!
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 06:12 by OM »

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 06:12 »
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CEO of Yahoo announces there's no such thing anymore as professional photographers.
oh wow, how is she at qualified to announce this?
and argh, holding such a high global position.

http://gigaom.com/2013/05/20/flickr-gets-revamp-with-1-tb-of-storage-space-free-and-yahoo-gets-new-nyc-office/


Doesn't surprise me that something like this would come from the captain of a directionless antiquated sinking ship.

Poncke v2

« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 07:19 »
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I had a pro account on Flikker but due to their atrocious and ignorant customer service I've let it expire and stopped using Flikker actively. Its a bunch of Yahoos (thank you Leo) at Flikker.

So if there are no PRO photographers, why call it a PRO account? Yer woman needs to sort her lingo.

I never liked Yahoo for their aggressive marketing tactics (vendor lock in) and always trying to install adware, spyware and other crap on my PC, and ever since I had to deal with the Flikker customer service, I hate them even more.

« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 07:37 »
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aspp

« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2013, 07:46 »
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Doesn't surprise me that something like this would come from the captain of a directionless antiquated sinking ship.


Though still remarkably profitable and with a rising share of search. Yahoo seems to have rebounded.

I think we often forget just how much reach Yahoo has into the lives of many people. In other news see if you can guess what was the hottest tech stock of 2012. If you don't know the answer, I think you will be surprised. Answer here.


 

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