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« on: November 28, 2008, 05:44 »
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Now is the winter of my discontent.

Usually I experience a summer slump and December sucks but otherwise a gradual increase throughout the year however I seemed to have peaked in September 2008 and the a downward spiral starts again.

Updated figures

SS  44.3% 3WM08*
DT  17.5% 3WM08
FT  14.3% 2BM08  ;D
StockXpert  6.8%
BS    5.5% 2WM08
123  5.4% WM08
IS    4.8% WM08 no surprise
FP   1.4%

3WM08 3rd worst month 2008
2MB08 2nd Best Month 2008

* actual number of 25/day DLs at SS lowest since February 2007

Only bright spots the exhange rate from $/ is still good for microstock earnings in dollars and VAT (UK sales tax) was reduced today (1st December) to 15% (from 17.5%) so my dollar earnings will go further I expect December will suck as usual so fingers crossed for 2009
« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 04:28 by fintastique »


« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 06:03 »
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You are not the only one, November has been pretty bad, it went down from September as well....

« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2008, 18:24 »
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the recession, 5 weekends, only 30 days, thanksgiving .... the only positive is the Christmas rush, but it doesn't look like it was enough.

« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 03:34 »
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 06:39 »
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IS 29.4%      BME
SS 22.74%   BME
FT 13.12%   2nd to BME
DT 10.55%   BME
StockXpert 5.89%   
Smugmug 2.99% (Selling through www.penguinphotos.net, however currently spending almost as much in advertising for it...)
Panthermedia 1.99% Disappointing

Rest: referrals and low earning sites

November was great..
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 09:29 by Freezingpictures »

« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 08:58 »
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-18 % from last month.  :(

« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 13:33 »
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November was not an impressive month, except the first half at Fotolia which has probably made my BME there.

I have less DLs at IS this November than a year ago, although my portfolio is at least three times bigger. How can that be possible?

DT is doing even much worse. However, November was bad last year too and December was even worse. Have to wait and see.

« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2008, 14:40 »
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+14%

SS       46.1%  (+40%)
IS       21.3%   (-17%)
DT      12.7%   (+18%)
BigStock      7.5%
FT+StockXpert+123RF = 12.7%

I will post a more detailed earnings report in my blog.

« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2008, 15:46 »
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-14% overall from BME in September.

SS 34% (-23% from BME in Sept 2008)
IS 19% (-43% from BME in March 2007...darn best match...haven't ever come close to earning what I used to at IS)
DT 15% (-11% from BME in October 2008)
StockXpert 13% BME (+5% from BME in Sept 2008)
FT 13% (-30% from BME in October 2008)
BigStock 4% (-37% from BME in March 2008)
123RF 3% (-51% from BME in November 2007)

Other sales at Crestock and RedBubble.

« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2008, 15:54 »
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November was a good month for me. Not as good as October, but still good.  Except for Istock of course: Istock was beaten by Shutterstock, Fotolia and even Dreamstime for the first time!  They managed to go from 2nd to 4th place in just 3 months.

« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 16:07 »
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+14%

SS       46.1%  (+40%)
IS       21.3%   (-17%)
DT      12.7%   (+18%)
BigStock      7.5%
FT+StockXpert+123RF = 12.7%

I will post a more detailed earnings report in my blog.

FT also low for me...

Everyone are talking about "Fotolia explosion" but not for us!  :(

BigStock is good for me this month, even StockXpert...

P.S:
For now: Sales:-16,67%
              RPI: -29,33 %
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 16:12 by borg »

« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2008, 16:10 »
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down about 20% on sep or oct but still much higher than aug.
bme on StockXpert and ft :), their rise just didn't cover the drops on is / ss / dt and alamy :(

phil

traveler1116

« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2008, 16:38 »
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BME on most sites, IS still down from before best match change but will end up in second with EL.  SS still accounts for 45% of overall, IS 15%, DT 13%, with FT at 10%, and  StockXpert, 123RF, and BigStock making up about 6% each.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 16:41 by traveler1116 »

lisafx

« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2008, 17:02 »
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I usually never do this early, but with only one day left in a holiday weekend I think these numbers aren't likely to change much....

IS     28%  (down 6% in ranking - sales off by 30%)
FOT   23%  (up 5%)
SS     18%  (no change)
DT     12%  (down 1%)
StockXpert    11%  (up 4%)
BigStock     4%   (down 1%)
123     2%   (down 1%)
Crest   1%   (no change)

Comparing this to my last few graphs, what stands out this month is that the 93% of my sales seem to be consolidated on the top five sites with the others only making a combined 7%.  Before it was more spread out. 

If this trend continues it will only be worth uploading to the top 5. 
« Last Edit: November 29, 2008, 18:10 by lisafx »

« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2008, 18:35 »
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BME everywhere except SS. SS was down about 15% from last month BME, but my uploads were down too. StockXpert finally back to July level. 123 has had nice pickup in sales.

« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2008, 22:40 »
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SS: 43%
IS: 28% - down 35% from Oct and 42% from Sept
DT: 15% - BME
FT: 7%
BS: 3%

Overall a pretty average month, mainly caused by the loss of sales on IS and lower than usual uploads in Oct and Nov....

« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2008, 02:16 »
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IS 100 %  ;)

BME for earnings (by a long long way) - thirty per cent over my BME which was June where I had a couple of extended licences (none this month) and a lot of vector downloads. . Fifty per cent up on October.

Photo sales were actually flat from October but more medium and large, fewer tiddlers - and Illustrations started to pick up again  - and as they are nearly all ten credit or better I get a big boost in earnings as my proportion of illustration sales increases. While the October change in best match drove my vector sales down to near nothing for a couple of weeks, they have bounced right back this month. (tweaks to best match as far as vectors goes plus the growth effect of being a near new illustration contributor, I think - I've gone from zero vector files to over 100 in the last twelve months).

It's quite clear the latest best match favours exclusives and older rather than newer images. I was pretty pleased and suprised with the results  as I don't have much in the way of seasonal imagery (and what I do have isn't selling anyway!) and my photo uploads have been nonexistent this year (with dollar binning my photo portfolio has actually fallen in size I think)

It's not going to pay the mortgage but it will make the Christmas stockings for my kids a bit fatter (given they are my chief models, that seems fair enough!)


« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2008, 02:27 »
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Overall down 46%.

SS down 65%
DT up 25%

« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2008, 02:32 »
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It seems we need a new letter word :  WMOTY, worst month of the year, dedicated to Istock only. 

« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 13:38 »
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My November results show that 123RF is slowing down while Dreamstime is growing.

SS 58.06%
StockXpert 10.98%
DT 9.39% (BME)
123RF 7.99%
MSP 7.15% (BME)
IS 2.80%
SV 1.03%
FT 0.91%
CS 0.72%
BS 0.57%
FP 0.40%



« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 14:19 »
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overall it was a bad month for me :(

IS:    37% (25% down from last month)
FT :  23% (28 % higher than last month)
SS:  16% (25% down from last month)
StockXpert: 12%(average)
DT:   06% (50% down from last month)
123   03% (average)
BS     03% (average)

« Last Edit: November 30, 2008, 14:23 by stokfoto »

CofkoCof

« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2008, 17:28 »
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the recession, 5 weekends, only 30 days, thanksgiving .... the only positive is the Christmas rush, but it doesn't look like it was enough.
Agree.

SS 37,78 up 8%
IS 21,59 down 21%
123rf 12,10 BME by 6%
StockXpert 9,44 down 15%
DT 9,08 down 20%
FT 7,59 down 41%
BigStock 2,42 down 20%
Overall: down 12%

Observations:
- 123rf with another BME and climbing into third place. Like that site more and more every day!
- FT has crazy ups and downs for me. Had a great october but November was just awful.

« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2008, 23:12 »
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November has been a great month for me. One of the reason is I grew my portfolio of 186 photos between mid-october and mid-november. The result was a 45% increase in my revenue. Like most non-exclusive, I had a drop at iStock but got a BME almost everywhere else. The raise at SS was good to me but the increase in portfolio size was even better since I sold 35% more photos than my best month (september). I didn't have any EL this month. The biggest surprise was Fotolia who took the 3rd rank and beat the crap out of iStock. It even beat the best month at iStock (september) by 50%. I produced a lot of white seamless photos and that seem to be what Fotolia wants.

Here's the breakdown:
1- Shutterstock = 47% (BME)
2- Dreamstime = 16% (BME)
3- Fotolia = 14% (BME)
4- StockXpert = 8% (BME)
5- iStockPhoto = 7% (Drop from rank 3 to 5)
6- 123RF = 6% (BME)
7- Yay Micro = 2% (BME)
8- Zymmetrical = 1%

« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2008, 23:47 »
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Since this is my last 2008 payout, I did my Year-to-Date (YDT) %.

FT :  33% (up 325% YTD & BME)  ;D
SS:  19% (up 24% YTD)
IS:    14% (down 40% YTD, down 49% since sept. worst month since 2005)  :o
DT:   14% (up 34% YTD)
StockXpert: 9% (up 98% YTD & BME)  ;D
123   4% (up 21% YTD)
BS     4% (down 12% YTD)

« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2008, 00:25 »
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Interesting month this. Ups and downs are compared to November 2007:

SS 37%, up 15%
IS 17%, up 15%
DT 16%, up 20%
FT 9%, down 19%
BS 7%, up 195%
StockXpert 6%, up 49%
123 3%, up 109%
Scanstock 3%, up 1,000%

Total sales up 21% since November 2007 and up 2% since October 2008.

The increases for BS and Scanstock may seem exceptional, but truth is that both of them have been increasing consistently through the year. On the other hand, I'm totally losing grip on what's happening at FT. My sales are sinking, my position on the statistics are sinking and they reject almost anything I submit.

« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2008, 02:11 »
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Here are my numbers:

ShutterStock: 34.76 %
Dreamstime: 24.15 % (BME)
StockXpert: 14.63 % (BME)
FeaturePics: 8.75 % (BME)
IStockPhoto: 5.22 %
Fotolia: 3.84 %
BigStockPhoto: 2.69 %
CanStockPhoto: 2.69 % (BME)
123RF: 1.94%
Crestock: 1.34 %
CutCaster: 0%

BME in total amount of Dollars earned this month.  Dreamstime appeared to improve a lot after I reached the number of 100 images online, but it might be a coincidence.  FeaturePics was a big surprise this month, and ended up in fourth place for me.  On the other hand, IStockPhoto, Fotolia and BigStockPhoto were disappointing.

« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2008, 04:57 »
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Overall dissapointing month , but sales at Yay, Zym and Panthermedia  consolidated the big 6 sales.
123rf was my worst month of the year, IS is sinking as well
FT doing pretty good with StockXpert
More details on my blog:
http://microstockexperiment.blogspot.com/

L


« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2008, 05:18 »
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1- SS 32.6%
2- DT 15.2%
3- IS  14.6% (down by 50% since june)
4- Stockxpert 14% BME
5- FT 9.8%
6- 123rf 7.8% BME
7- BigStock 3.3%
8- Crestock 1%

Istock is dying month after month, Crestock is still a stingy cadaver.

« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2008, 05:42 »
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Not my BME, and also not BMOTY - October was 49 cents better in total. Still, overall I am happy with the performance. Again, I had a really good month at FT.

FT: 58,7% (BME)
IS: 18.3% (not WMOTY, but not good either, especially compared to last year)
SS: 13.6%
DT: 9.3% (BME, seems extending my portfolio there is finally paying off)

Compared to last November: +155%  :)

« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2008, 06:21 »
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SS   34%
IS    33%
StockXpert 18%
DT    9%
FT    3%
BigStock  2%
123  1%

« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2008, 14:48 »
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Site                - % income      - %change/october  - %change/year avg.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shutterstock        - 30%           - 19%              - 25%
Dreamstime          - 21%           - 5%               - 3%
StockXpert          - 11%           - 36%              - 43%
Fotolia             - 10%           - 13%              - 30%
Crestock            - 9%            - 5%               - 27%
Istockphoto         - 9%            - 70%              - 48%
Bigstockphoto       - 7%            - 71%              - 6%
123RF               - 3%            - 10%              - 41%
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Overall             - 100%          - 7%               - 23%


Comments:

First off, I uploaded very little in 2008, only about 85 files. So that is a big cause for the large drops.

70% rise in income at Istock over last month doesn't say much when October was my worst month ever, even below my first month uploading. The 48% decrease compared to my typical month there says more about how IS is doing.

This was my worst month of the year, not by much though. Things are already looking good for December with an EL already from SS, and strong sales on other sites including Istock. Did they change the best match again or something? The past 10 days have been A LOT better than the 40 before them.

« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 21:13 by Kngkyle »

« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2008, 16:26 »
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look at you with the fancy table :)

« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2008, 20:48 »
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My November and 2008 numbers, with 2007 for comparison:

Site 2007 2008 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
IS 26% 24% 22% 37% 26% 26% 23% 18% 26% 18% 21% 21% 20%
DT 16% 20% 30% 16% 18% 22% 14% 26% 23% 17% 16% 17% 20%
StockXpert 20% 21% 19% 12% 22% 21% 24% 13% 21% 22% 30% 25% 22%
FT 13% 13% 8% 11% 16% 13% 13% 15% 10% 16% 13% 16% 13%
BigStock 8% 6% 8% 5% 5% 3% 7% 9% 6% 6% 10% 6% 7%
123 4% 6% 5% 8% 3% 4% 8% 11% 5% 5% 5% 4% 2%
FP 3% 5% 2% 3% 4% 10% 3% 7% 7% 8% 2% 4% 2%
CanStockPhoto 2% <1% 1% 1% 1% <1% <1% 1% 1% 1% <1% <1% <1%
Scan 1% 1% 0% <1% 1% <1% 1% <1% 0% 4% 0% 2% 0%
CS <1% <1% 0% 0% 0% ~0% 1% 0% 1% 2% 1% <1% 1%
Zymm<1% 2% 3% 5% 2% 0% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 3% 5%
rest 3% <2% 3% 1% <1% ~0% 1% 0% 0% 1% <1% <1% 8%

Overall 14% below October, with the biggest lost in FT, followed by IS and StockXpert.  Stable at DT. Actually biggest loss was in 123RF, but as sales are so low for me there, the impact is very small.  FP slowed down too.

StockXpert, IS, DT and FT have been respectively my 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th earners for 4 months in a row.

CanStockPhoto and CS still with very low earnings, basically subs.  Nothing at Scanstock this month.  One sale in Zymm, one in Albumo, one in ImageVortex.  Fotomedia and SV dead for months, and still nothing at MP.  I asked MicrostockPhoto to remove my portfolio, but they haven't done anything - that's the first agency I give up.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2008, 05:06 »
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look at you with the fancy table :)

That was my thought too LOL!!

then Madelaide comes in with one thats bigger, hmm but no colour :)

« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2008, 05:13 »
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would anyone find some sort of a built in function for that monthly %'s thing usefull?  Where perhaps in your profile you could enter your %'s and then post the numbers easily with a code or some other thing...

or is it just as easy like it is now?

« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2008, 12:48 »
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would anyone find some sort of a built in function for that monthly %'s thing usefull?  Where perhaps in your profile you could enter your %'s and then post the numbers easily with a code or some other thing...

Although I don't place much value in the monthly percentage thing, I'd like to see it replace and/or be integrated into the 'Microstock Poll Results' on the right hand side of the site. I think it could more informative to see the various sites laid out according to income percentage rather than a score out of ten that's derived from an unnecessarily complicated survey. Adding buttons to quickly/easily input data and view a graph (income % vs time) would be nice, too.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2008, 13:01 by sharply_done »

grp_photo

« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2008, 13:33 »
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would anyone find some sort of a built in function for that monthly %'s thing usefull?  Where perhaps in your profile you could enter your %'s and then post the numbers easily with a code or some other thing...

Although I don't place much value in the monthly percentage thing, I'd like to see it replace and/or be integrated into the 'Microstock Poll Results' on the right hand side of the site. I think it could more informative to see the various sites laid out according to income percentage rather than a score out of ten that's derived from an unnecessarily complicated survey. Adding buttons to quickly/easily input data and view a graph (income % vs time) would be nice, too.

If you do it percentage wise the results would be completly spoiled by istockexclusives which always only would have the option of 100%. Or did i misunderstand you?


« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2008, 13:57 »
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Shutterstock  27%, down 4%
iStockphoto   23%, up 17%
Fotolia          14%, up 22%
Dreamstime  11%, up 2%
StockXpert    10%, up 29%
BigStock         7%, up 2%
123RF            2%, down 40%
Crestock         1%, down 20%
Albumo        <1%, up ∞% (no sales in Oct)
CanStock      <1%, down 64%

November             up 5% vs. Oct
Last 12 months      up 8% vs. Dec/06 - Nov/07

bittersweet

« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2008, 14:01 »
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If you do it percentage wise the results would be completly spoiled by istockexclusives which always only would have the option of 100%. Or did i misunderstand you?

Yes, that is true. But there will also be independents who report 75% FT and 25% DT which looks like "WOW! FT is doing really well!" ... but they leave out the part where their total income on FT was $7.50 and their total on DT was $2.50. The same goes for some of the ranters in the stats thread whose "income dropped 50% on IS this month!!!!!!" (from $2 to $1). There is no way that any format is going to be a completely accurate representation because there are so many different size portfolios. I'm also convinced that some people rate sites they don't even participate in, simply out of spite.

That being said, it doesn't really matter to me if I'm excluded from your numbers game. I don't base my decisions on those anyway, for the reasons mentioned above.  ;)
« Last Edit: December 02, 2008, 14:03 by whatalife »

« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2008, 15:52 »
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I agree with Whatalife that such statistics don't say much, when you mix people with small sales (like me) and big sales.  I think my table is in fact only useful for myself.  :)

I think comments are more important, showing trends and recent experiences.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2008, 17:15 »
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About 250 images on average on line (very small portfolio). Roughy 0.80 RPI.

DT 44.5%
SS 40.7%
IS 9.3%

everything else is just noise (<3%).


« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2008, 05:03 »
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I'm not complaining given that I didn't upload anything for 1 year.
This is a graph excluding referrals.  Mind that the total is divided by 2 to fit the graph.

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