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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2010, 08:18 »
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                         (+/-% from Nov 09)
IS         26%      (-9%)
FT        26%      (+4%)
DT        20%      (+9%)
SS        19%      (-3%)
others     9%      (-1%)

2010 = 2009 +19%


ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2010, 08:29 »
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iStock exclusive.
... DL figures: Nov 10: 172;  Nov 09: 269;  Nov 08: 565.

Being as your downloads have shrunk by a staggering 70% over the last two years why on earth are you still wearing a crown? Don't you just want to rip the thing off and shove it up Istock's a**e?

At the moment, I don't have time to upload elsewhere. I never did have, so I don't know the ins and outs of other sites.
When/if that changes, I'll obviously look at the situation at that time.
No point in just becoming unexclusive for the sake of it; they'd get to pay me even less %ge with no benefit to me.
I'm also following some blogs of new independents, with interest. Seems anecdotally they're getting more rejections than might have been expected.

That said, almost all my uploading efforts over the past year have gone to Alamy RM, as editorial is really my area of interest, rather than adverts. That's a long-term strategy, though.
Actually, the thing which would most likely make me turn in my crown is the increased freedom I'd have over what I do with my non-stock images.

« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2010, 09:07 »
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Maybe it is one of their new "punk'dem" days where they take 100% royalty.
Is that really sustainable? Why not 110% and what's the difference between 100% and 85%?  ::)

rubyroo

« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2010, 09:09 »
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Maybe it is one of their new "punk'dem" days where they take 100% royalty.

"punk'dem" days.

LMAO

Brilliant!

« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2010, 10:52 »
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iStock exclusive.
... DL figures: Nov 10: 172;  Nov 09: 269;  Nov 08: 565.

Being as your downloads have shrunk by a staggering 70% over the last two years why on earth are you still wearing a crown? Don't you just want to rip the thing off and shove it up Istock's a**e?

At the moment, I don't have time to upload elsewhere. I never did have, so I don't know the ins and outs of other sites.
When/if that changes, I'll obviously look at the situation at that time.
No point in just becoming unexclusive for the sake of it; they'd get to pay me even less %ge with no benefit to me.
I'm also following some blogs of new independents, with interest. Seems anecdotally they're getting more rejections than might have been expected.

That said, almost all my uploading efforts over the past year have gone to Alamy RM, as editorial is really my area of interest, rather than adverts. That's a long-term strategy, though.
Actually, the thing which would most likely make me turn in my crown is the increased freedom I'd have over what I do with my non-stock images.

I don't have a lot of time either but believe me --- the upload process at the 3 other sites I joined is heads and tails quicker and easier than istock.  If you keyword, title and description in your metadata then it will be an amazing breeze!  plus they store your releases right there in a library and you just pick the one that goes with the file(s).  no worries about uploading an MR every single time.  I dropped the crown last month and I'm loving it.

Phadrea

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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2010, 11:44 »
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Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2010, 12:55 »
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OK so first full month as an independent after giving up iStocks crown in October.

Amounts are % of income and total files online.   The big time factor is still keywording everything into the file itself which I hadn't done with most of my library.   Still focusing on the big 4 (or 3 in my case).   Expect things to pick up speed on uploads after the first of the year when my wedding business is taking no time at all.   

iStock          46.62%   3006
Dreamstime   9.22%   689
Shutterstock   37.30%   545
Fotolia             2.74%   188
Bigstock             0.95%   502
Canstock              1.49%   460
123RF            1.00%   130
Veer                     0.50%      9
Depositphotos   0.18%   171

Income up 5% from last month when I made the break.   While combined income is still about 80% on average of my exclusive income - it's certainly not the worst month this year - I had several months this summer slower than this with the crown.   

« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2010, 13:46 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.

« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2010, 13:50 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

that's your own business, if you want to share why are you rude??

« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2010, 13:58 »
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I got record month in October so now it is back to average :-)

« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2010, 15:27 »
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November was as low as October. IS was stable, DT up, FT down.

« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2010, 17:21 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.


If you want to share, I don't think anyone will chastise you, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for others to do the same.

When I was salaried, I didn't routinely go around telling people what I made and certainly wouldn't have posted it in a public forum. It's information I would share in some circumstances, but it'd be a case by case basis. Don't feel there's any difference with my stock income.

« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2010, 18:20 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.

I'm guessing most people appreciate it that you show hard numbers.

« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2010, 18:57 »
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I'm guessing most people appreciate it that you show hard numbers.

I know I do. I always find it interesting when people post their concrete numbers, but there is a lot of secrecy. I guess the poll reflects a numbers range now too which is nice and still gives some anonymity. I think most people reserve the numbers for their blog. It gives you a little more control to delete the info if you want.

« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2010, 20:15 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.

why exclusive?

« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2010, 06:11 »
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BME for me :)

4 years - approx 500 photos (very much a hobby for me)

this month
IS = 28%
SS = 34%
DT = 19%
CS = 13%  (due to fotosearch regular sales)
The rest = 15%

RacePhoto

« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2010, 19:00 »
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BME for me :)

4 years - approx 500 photos (very much a hobby for me)

this month
IS = 28%
SS = 34%
DT = 19%
CS = 13%  (due to fotosearch regular sales)
The rest = 15%

Not to pick on you, but this is just a good example.

So that would be:
$2.80 on IS, $3.40 on SS, $1.90 on DT and if you sell one EL on SS it would be the BME by 800%?  :o  ;D

I know it's not, but the fact is, percentage of what is kind of important. BME of what? And as I pointed out at least once before, if someone would delete their duplicates, similar files and non-sellers, their RPI would skyrocket!

Lets say I make $15 a month on SS or IS, on average. (which is close to reality for the feeble 200 image attempt) That's the 50% / 50% boring income from Micro I get, month after month. One EL makes the totals change to SS = 70% and IS = 30% which is kind of misrepresenting the truth. $100 a year with each agency is about right. Nothing to jump for joy and it covers battery expenses and the electricity to charge them. I wonder what that is in pay per hour for uploading and keywording. Good news, I stopped uploading, so my average hourly wage will go up next year. ;)

The polls on the right need to be taken with a grain of salt too. Some smaller agency with 10 shills could have them reporting fabricated sales to boost the numbers. Especially when the messages on the forum say, 2-3 dollars total (from some very reliable and active stockers) since they opened and the poll is reporting $20 a month average. I'd be kind of suspicious?  ::)

I'd have the most faith in the annual survey that Leaf has done, because it brings out the people who may not write much, or don't come here often, because they are busy working! LOL

Hey it's Friday, a snowstorm is coming, I backed up the #2 desktop and copied the files off the #4 machine to an external drive. I should have a real party until the roads clear. Organizing, culling and editing. Also have a memorial DVD project, scanned photos and music, that needs to be done by early next week.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2010, 19:56 by RacePhoto »


« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2010, 23:15 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.

why exclusive?

Because my goal is to earn money. being exclusive helps me with my goal. ($$ per hour).

SNP

  • Canadian Photographer
« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2010, 00:44 »
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coming up on four years in February/5,800 images/Nov 2010 2nd BME for $ and 3rd BME for dls/iStock exclusive
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 00:47 by SNP »

« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2010, 00:54 »
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Is sharing real monthly $$$ income considerd rude ?
my question also.

Well I dont mind sharing this piece of info. We made 580$ in Nov.
Exclusives at IS with a port of ~1.5K
Would love to hear other people figures.

why exclusive?

Because my goal is to earn money. being exclusive helps me with my goal. ($$ per hour).

I was just thinking that you might make more money without the istock exclusivity but I guess you have tried out that before

« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2010, 04:56 »
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3 years in: Portfolio ranging from 4,000 down. Removed most of IS pics in protest over recent developments., so they don't figure much.

Nov rolled in at around $1,000. SS makes up nearly 50% DT/FT $100 each - rest make up the extra $300.

Going forward this is passive income - I took a regular job two months ago. I upload 40-50 over the weekend, and so far sales have remained at 1K.

If this model remains sustainable, then I'm happy. If you get to the wall stage, you have to decide. Keep banging your head against it and get frustrated - quit (as in me) or become on image factory with all that entails. Maybe this is simplifying things somewhat, but you get the idea.

Oldhand

lisafx

« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2010, 12:25 »
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If this model remains sustainable, then I'm happy. If you get to the wall stage, you have to decide. Keep banging your head against it and get frustrated - quit (as in me) or become on image factory with all that entails. Maybe this is simplifying things somewhat, but you get the idea.


If you hit the wall at a stage where you can be fairly satisfied financially, with the money coming in, you can continue for awhile like that.  You have to keep uploading, and the emotional satisfaction of knowing you are building something isn't there.  It's more like running in place.  But at least it is still paying the bills. 

I know I could never increase production to image-factory levels.  I don't want to partner up, and I can't give over any more of my life to this.  I already put in about 40-50 hours a week.  But as long as it keeps paying the bills, I will have to content myself with running in place. 

Good on you, though, Old Hand, for taking a real job.  That is bound to yield much more reliable income ITLR :)

Even though I make more - right now - doing stock than my husband makes as a teacher,  if I had to choose between my job or his, I would definitely choose to have him keep teaching.  He can still count on doing that 20 years from now, whereas I don't know if I'll be earning my living at this 5 years in the future...

« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2010, 14:16 »
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My first post, so Hi to everyone :)

4 years with micros, 2000+ photos and BME. +11% from last november. I am very satisfied with the little effort I have put into this...
Shutterstock, Fotolia and iStock working best for me, others come far behind...

lisafx

« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2010, 14:20 »
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My first post, so Hi to everyone :)

4 years with micros, 2000+ photos and BME. +11% from last november. I am very satisfied with the little effort I have put into this...
Shutterstock, Fotolia and iStock working best for me, others come far behind...

Cmon Molka.  You know this isn't your first post.  Are you just trying to get around the 40 people who had you on ignore?  

Personally, I wasn't ignoring you anymore because your posts are pretty entertaining, but I suspect that
people will see through your -D-I-S-G-U-I-S-E-  ;)

grp_photo

« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2010, 14:30 »
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i dont think its the same molka


 

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