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« on: April 12, 2008, 11:45 »
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hye all..first, im sorry if the topic has been discussed before...

is there any Editorial Photo that can we send besides shutterstock and dreamstime?

thanks...


« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2008, 14:04 »
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As far as i know that is also possible at FeaturePics and mostphotos.

« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 15:07 »
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Scanstock too.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2008, 17:24 »
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And which site really sells editorial photos?
On DT the best-selling editorial photo has 100 downloads, but the next one only 31, and then it goes very steeply down. 4 downloads is pretty good there. There are only 442 editorial images on DT that did sell at least once (out of roughly 4000 accepted).

And how about SS? Do they sell much more?

Is it worth it to upload editorials there? I don't think so. I think it is smarter to upload editorials to sites like Alamy. I only hope that the micros won't kill the market for editorial photos. The only losers will be photographers themselves.

For a very good shot of H. Clinton the photog earned a buck, another good shot of B. Clinton has earned another buck...
Do you really want to go there? It's like selling them rope with which you will be hanged in the end...

« Last Edit: April 12, 2008, 17:55 by Tom »

« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2008, 03:35 »
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And which site really sells editorial photos?
On DT the best-selling editorial photo has 100 downloads, but the next one only 31, and then it goes very steeply down. 4 downloads is pretty good there. There are only 442 editorial images on DT that did sell at least once (out of roughly 4000 accepted).

And how about SS? Do they sell much more?

Is it worth it to upload editorials there? I don't think so. I think it is smarter to upload editorials to sites like Alamy. I only hope that the micros won't kill the market for editorial photos. The only losers will be photographers themselves.

For a very good shot of H. Clinton the photog earned a buck, another good shot of B. Clinton has earned another buck...
Do you really want to go there? It's like selling them rope with which you will be hanged in the end...

tq windmill,madelaide and tom...

grp_photo

« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2008, 04:15 »
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Is it worth it to upload editorials there? I don't think so. I think it is smarter to upload editorials to sites like Alamy. I only hope that the micros won't kill the market for editorial photos. The only losers will be photographers themselves.




I totally agree here Tom. You never sell editorial in Volume and as you normally sell Editorial RM it's normally not expensive for the customer because small uses costs only small fees. A quarter page in a publication with a circulation figure of 10.000 costs the customer only a few bucks.
Most of my RM editorial sales are under 100 Dollars sometimes only 10 or 20 Dollar this is already very small money for any company. So nobody will search for editorial on Microstocksite as long the usage of the picture is not big, traditional sites have a wide editorial collection with very high quality no need to go to a Microstocksite in this case. A customer will only buy editorial on a Microstocksite if the usage is big (big size,(world-)wide usage,long term usage, big circulation) because in this case RM is expensive several hundred even several thousands Dollar so in this case it makes sense for a customer to go to microstocksite and buy a editorial-photo for a 3 Dollar with virtually no limits in usage the customer saves thousand of Dollars the Photographer looses thousand of Dollars.
It's pretty dumb to sell editorial on Microstocksite but there will always some dumb and short-minded people it's actually pretty sad.

DanP68

« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2008, 06:18 »
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And which site really sells editorial photos?
On DT the best-selling editorial photo has 100 downloads, but the next one only 31, and then it goes very steeply down. 4 downloads is pretty good there. There are only 442 editorial images on DT that did sell at least once (out of roughly 4000 accepted).



Dreamstime just added editorial sales.  If you want to judge downloads, you will need to judge them by their estimated time on line.  I have one with 13 downloads in a little over a month, which is a far faster rate than any normal RF image has sold from my portfolio.

« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 10:36 »
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tq tq and tq.... another question..

how minimum MP. that possible we can sell? is it 6mp? or 8mp.. of course the buyers will consider the maximum one..but at least how minimum??

*sorry for my bad english  :-[

DanP68

« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 10:57 »
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Not a problem.   8)

It depends on the agency.  Shutterstock takes 4 mp, which is my minimum cutoff when doing crops. 

Following along on this topic, although Shutterstock is far and away my #1 earnings producer, I have better earnings from DT editorial than from SS editorial.  I doubt many people have the same experience, but it is true for me.

« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 12:26 »
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Not a problem.   8)

It depends on the agency.  Shutterstock takes 4 mp, which is my minimum cutoff when doing crops. 

Following along on this topic, although Shutterstock is far and away my #1 earnings producer, I have better earnings from DT editorial than from SS editorial.  I doubt many people have the same experience, but it is true for me.

thanks danP...
another question ;)

do you think that the agency will accept any blur/soft focus(a little bit) pic like motorsports?
i think u know it is too difficult to capture them from the front angle...

DanP68

« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 14:44 »
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Paul Cowan's experience is that yes, agencies do accept a few flaws that would otherwise tank a typical stock shot. For instance, you may need to shoot at a higher ISO when in dark conditions. If a reviewers turns down a strong motocross shot because it is a little soft, they obviously aren't seeing the big picture figuratively.

There are obvious contigencies.  If you are shooting small college sports like me, you better get as quality a shot as possible.  On the other hand, if you are shooting Dale Earnhardt Jr at high speeds, the reviewer is going to meet you half way as much as he/she can.

RacePhoto

« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 21:08 »
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Not a problem.   8)

It depends on the agency.  Shutterstock takes 4 mp, which is my minimum cutoff when doing crops. 

Following along on this topic, although Shutterstock is far and away my #1 earnings producer, I have better earnings from DT editorial than from SS editorial.  I doubt many people have the same experience, but it is true for me.

thanks danP...
another question ;)

do you think that the agency will accept any blur/soft focus(a little bit) pic like motorsports?
i think u know it is too difficult to capture them from the front angle...

Did someone say Motorsports!  ;D

Smaller publications pay $20 per photo used, if that helps you with editorial pricing for racing. I haven't pushed to get them up on FeaturePics yet, at 6mp, so anything I'd have to say about sales on Micropayment Sites would be invalid. I set my own price there at $20 to match the market.

Real short, if I can do that, with motorsports you have all the issues of why we can't show cars in RF, then logos and trademarks and sanctioning bodies, plus personal images of celebrities, the drivers, the teams, the sponsors and actually the places they race will have rights and restrictions. So basically, editorial is about the only way you can sell most motorsports photos.

I don't think you'll have any success selling anything blurred, except if it's the background from panning and the subject is sharp. The exception would be if the image is intentionally showing a speed blur. Mark that as opinion. I'd be very surprised if anything out of focus or blurred sells anywhere. This applies to racing and motorsports, not other areas, which may be different.

Haven't tried SS or the others, but I should.

A few up on FeaturePics, just to get started and a few up on Alamy, just to make sure I have an active account. First rate 2008, exclusive, with the 40D go to Alamy. Photos from the 10D to FeaturePics, where I can set the price.

Good luck, play safe and have fun!


 

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