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Title: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: SA on February 14, 2012, 05:45
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Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: panicAttack on February 14, 2012, 12:55
In my opinion always try to have 50 relevant keywords

and when I check Image gallery stats and see which keywords buyer searched after I'm always glad to have 50.
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: SA on February 15, 2012, 02:39
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: Phadrea on February 16, 2012, 02:02
I have noticed some of the top selling images having minimal keywords. Where do you find your "Image gallery stats" ?
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: Perry on February 16, 2012, 09:12
I don't count my keywords. Some images have many, some only a few. It just depends on the subject and how many relevant keywords I come up with.
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: stockmarketer on February 16, 2012, 12:29
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...

Hogwash.  Where is the evidence of this?
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: panicAttack on February 16, 2012, 15:10
I have noticed some of the top selling images having minimal keywords. Where do you find your "Image gallery stats" ?

In darkroom, there is keyword trends tool also.
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: dacasdo on February 22, 2012, 09:16
I always use Yuri Arcurs Keywording Tool.

It helps me a lot and save me a lot of time.

http://arcurs.com/keywording (http://arcurs.com/keywording)

David.
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: Megastock on February 23, 2012, 10:56
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...

Hogwash.  Where is the evidence of this?

I tend to agree that you are not punished.  When I do a relevancy search on SS I find the top matches tend to have close to 40-50 keywords so I fail to see any evidence that fewer keywords gets you better placement.  In the other sort orders (popular, new, random) it would seem more is better as well.  Not necessarily the case on other sites, though.
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: pjhpix on February 23, 2012, 11:49
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...

Hogwash.  Where is the evidence of this?

I tend to agree that you are not punished.  When I do a relevancy search on SS I find the top matches tend to have close to 40-50 keywords so I fail to see any evidence that fewer keywords gets you better placement.  In the other sort orders (popular, new, random) it would seem more is better as well.  Not necessarily the case on other sites, though.

Interesting - I too have been trying to work out the basic criteria they employ for the Relevancy search option. It seems that on SS searches for 'Popular' and 'Relevant' come out pretty much the same ! Elsewhere (e.g. DT) the number of keywords is the defining factor and its difficult to think what else could be used to define 'relevancy'. Anyone got any theories ?
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: Megastock on February 23, 2012, 13:49
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...

Hogwash.  Where is the evidence of this?

I tend to agree that you are not punished.  When I do a relevancy search on SS I find the top matches tend to have close to 40-50 keywords so I fail to see any evidence that fewer keywords gets you better placement.  In the other sort orders (popular, new, random) it would seem more is better as well.  Not necessarily the case on other sites, though.


Interesting - I too have been trying to work out the basic criteria they employ for the Relevancy search option. It seems that on SS searches for 'Popular' and 'Relevant' come out pretty much the same ! Elsewhere (e.g. DT) the number of keywords is the defining factor and its difficult to think what else could be used to define 'relevancy'. Anyone got any theories ?


The title doesn't seem to count either - I did a search on 'fun' and none of the most relevant matches included that word in the title...  The only thing I can think of that would make a lot of sense is if they used the stats on which keywords were used to actually buy the image.  That would naturally mean that the number of sales would count, in the sense that images with no sales have no data. 
Title: Re: Number of Keywords on SS
Post by: Mantis on February 23, 2012, 18:13
Do you others agree on that? Some say you get punished in search results with 50 keywords...

Hogwash.  Where is the evidence of this?

He may be referring to a comment that Dreamstime's Serban once made that their search engine takes into account the number of keywords you have...fewer gets you a "slight" bump.  I remember reading it in their forums a couple of years ago.  Who knows how that comment may have morphed since then though.