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Title: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: fintastique on October 28, 2008, 08:21
I know I am very early but I like to start this thread.

Updated Saturday morning

SS (http://submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=60395") 45.5%
DT (http://www.dreamstime.com/resp129469) 17%
FT (http://en.fotolia.com/partner/38701) 11.5%

IS (http://www.istockphoto.com/fintastique) 7.6%
123 (http://www.123rf.com/src_fintastique) 6.0%
BigStock (http://www.bigstockphoto.com/?refid=doyu49fkgQ) 5.3%
StockXpert 5.2%
FP 1.8%

Well I suspected it was not a best month at any site and overall a rather disappointing month, I think I overachieved in September. I usually see a steady increase after the summer slump until Christmas.

The only bright note is that the exchange rate for US dollars to pounds has changed in my favour, hopefully the dollar can remain strong until the agencies send me my money.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: madelaide on October 28, 2008, 08:51
Geez, I haven't even posted my september earnings!   ;D

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Freezingpictures on October 28, 2008, 09:03
In $ I predict this month will be slightly less then last month, my prediction for € is slightly more or equal last month. I love a weak Euro :)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: fintastique on October 28, 2008, 09:56
For all of you in the UK

1st July $1 = 50p
1st August  $1 = 51p
1st September $1 = 55p
1st October $1 = 56p
28th October $1 = 64p
1st November $1=62p

Obviously PP or MB won't give you that rate

but $1000 of earnings would give you a measely £500 back in July now it would be around the £640  :)

In Euroland

1st July $1 = 63c
1st August  $1 = 64c
1st September $1 = 68c
1st October $1 = 71c
28th October $1 = 80c
1st November $1 = 79c

again $1000 of earnings would give you a mere 630€ back in July now it would be around the 800€  :)


Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: ichiro17 on October 28, 2008, 10:02
a little early?
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: bittersweet on October 28, 2008, 10:55
a little early?

Yeah I was wondering what time zone he is in. Where I live there are still more than three business days left in the month.  :D
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Microbius on October 28, 2008, 10:58
a little early?

Yeah I was wondering what time zone he is in. Where I live there are still more than three business days left in the month.  :D
yeah, a bit pointless to be checking this now
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: khwi on October 28, 2008, 11:02
huh... didnt know euro dropped so drastically!
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Mellimage on October 28, 2008, 12:10
I love the weak Euro too!
And I already know one result: BME at Fotolia.  :)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: CofkoCof on October 28, 2008, 12:23
I love the weak Euro too!
And I already know one result: BME at Fotolia.  :)
It seems a like a nice unexpected raise, but weak euro isn't good for our economy. All the items that have their price specified in USD are getting more expensive (oil, gold, all the imported goods from USA).
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Mellimage on October 28, 2008, 12:43
yeah, and ask me again if I like the weak Euro when I travel to the US next week (I have plans for 3 different trips) or need to pay tuition in the US. Then it suddenly becomes less nice... .
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: CofkoCof on October 31, 2008, 17:02
SS 30,67 up from previous month, but far from BME
IS 23,85 BME
FT 13,04 BME
123rf 10,13 BME
DT 9,99 BME
StockXpert 9,94 down from last month
BigStock 2,38 up from last month, just short of BME

Together: about 13% up compared to September, but still down on BME because sales at SS dropped a lot for me (if I take SS out of equasion it's a BME).

Observations:
- really starting to like 123rf, almost every month a BME with very steady sales, fast reviews and no weird rejections
- not submitting vectors to IS atm, they would just get burried. Had less sales than in September, especially in the second part of the month when the new best match took place. Vectors are really suffering for me. Luckily I had quite a few XXL sales on photos which contributed a lot to a BME
- great month on fotolia, a big increase on previous month and previous BME
- StockXpert is fluctuating a lot, last month I've had great sales, this month it was the only site down from last month
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on October 31, 2008, 17:58
BME on SS,FT,DT,123RF,StockXpert,CS,BigStock. Big increases in some cases. FT,DT 100% increase with BigStock and StockXpert increase by a factor of 3.  Then there's iS. Sorry to say this but what a bunch of losers. My sales now look about the same as they did after my first 10 images went up. Nothing new sells. Frustrating beyond belief.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Pixart on October 31, 2008, 18:18
DT was hanging onto the lead for the second month in a row when SS sold an EL in the end.    That's 2 months in a row that DT has rocked.  IS just keeps getting worse.  It used to be #1 or #2.  Last month it dropped to 3, this month 4.

SS  32.8%
DT  29.1%  BME
FT  14%
IS  11.4%  WME
StockXpert 4.4%
BS  4.2%
123 2.3%
ZYM 1.6%

Surprize, surprize.  No action at FP and I almost forget I've got an account at MP.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: loop on October 31, 2008, 19:05
Great at IS, Second BME, regular dl's and ELs, fantastic return per file uploaded.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Mellimage on October 31, 2008, 19:20
Overall another BME for me, I finally cracked the 300$ barrier overall and +19% from last month.

FT: 52.3% (BME, actually 300% plus from my earnings October 2007 and + 23% from September 2008)
SS: 21.0% not a bad month, due to an EL my #2
IS: 17.8% (WM 2008) download numbers were better than September, but the royalties were really low.
DT: 9% (2nd best month this year, still building my port there)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: dbvirago on October 31, 2008, 19:28
BME for me
BMEs at BigStock, DT, and SS
IS continues to slide into irrelevance.
Non-disclosure at SX makes it impossible to track sales there.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: traveler1116 on October 31, 2008, 21:35
BME 123rf, ss, dt, sv, and StockXpert.  Worse month in the last year on IS, 50%+ drop in sales.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: epixx on November 01, 2008, 00:31
Her we go. Percentages compared to October last year:

SS 32%, 16% down
DT 16%, 1% up
IS 15%, 33% down
FT 12%, 67% up
StockXpert 8%, 32% up
BS 8%, 132% up
SV 4%, no sales last year
123 3%, 14% down
Scanstock 1%, 14% down
Crestock 1%, 55% up

Total: 0.5% up since last year, 4% down since September this year.

SS is continuing its downward trend, while BS shows impressive performance and SV is starting to give results. Sales during European business hours were mostly better than those during American hours, probably due to the financial crisis. I also assume the crisis lowered the total results for this month.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Peter on November 01, 2008, 01:45
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Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: fotografer on November 01, 2008, 02:56
In order of sales.
SS up
FT BME, 25% up on last month
DT BME
IS down yet again, earnings 35% down on this time last year
StockXpert down but photos.com needs to be added on
123rf BME got a couple of ELs for the first time ever there.
Big stock down

Overall about the same as last month in $ but because of exchange rate improving
nearly 300€ more :)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: ingesche on November 01, 2008, 04:53
Here is my month in percentages:

ShutterStock: 48.80 %
IStockPhoto: 13.11 % - BME
BigStockPhoto: 11.67 % - BME
StockXpert: 11.05 %
Dreamstime: 6.67%
FeaturePics: 3.81 % - BME
Fotolia: 2.01 %
Crestock: 1.94 %
123RF: 1.34 %
CanStockPhoto: 0%
Cutcaster: 0%

Dreamstime and Fotolia have not been this bad since the first two months after I joined them!  All in all, I earned about 10 dollars more in September than I did this month, and it is my second best month ever (I only started in May this year).

Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: epantha on November 01, 2008, 06:26
IS - 36%
DT - 21%
SS - 18%
FT - 12% BME
BigStock - 6% BME
StockXpert - 4%
123RF - 36% BME

BME overall despite dramatic drop in downloads in the 2nd half of the month at IS.
The future at DT looks very good as this site has the most 1st downloads and covers a larger part of my portfolio. FT did better because of an EL and one high performing graphic.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: cybernesco on November 01, 2008, 07:25
30.39%   Shutterstock         3rd best month ever
18.42%   IstockPhoto           worst mont this year
13.95%   StockExpert          BME         
13.60%   Dreamstime          3rd best month ever
13.00%   Fotolia                  2nd best month ever
6.70%   BigStockPhoto       BME         
1.89%   123RoyaltyFree         
1.51%   Crestock               BME         
0.56%   FeaturePics


IS used to account for over 33% of my total earning. Jan 08 was my IS BME with 500 photos. Now Oct, it is my IS worst month of 08 with over 760 photos. IS has been declining non-stop while all others have been increasing.  Denis   


Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: MicrostockExp on November 01, 2008, 07:42
Pretty bad October , only one BME at BigStock..... second half of the month was noticeably slower for me
More stats on my blog :
http://microstockexperiment.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: stokfoto on November 01, 2008, 07:44
IS      41%
SS     17%
FT      15%
StockXpert    12%
DT      09%
BS      03%
123RF 03%

overall: a fairly good month but not as good as I expected  though
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: lobby on November 01, 2008, 10:31
declining downloads and $ since july
i'm very disappointed

SS - 35 % UP
IS - 19 % down
DT - 13 % UP BME
FOT - 5% down WME
StockXpert - 5% down  WME
123 - 3% down
BIG - 3% up

others 16% up


Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: melastmohican on November 01, 2008, 11:58
Total revenue is BME, individually most do not reach August heights but still better than previous month.

SS   67.29%
123RF   10.01%
SV   7.07%
StockXpert   5.56%
DT   5.04%
IS   2.75%
FT   1.14%
CS   0.88%
YM   0.25%

BS, FP, MSP, CUT - 0%. I am only uploading actively to SS, 123RF, StockXpert and IS. Still working out backlogs on DT.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: Kngkyle on November 01, 2008, 12:15
Site - % this month - % change from last month


Shutterstock     - 35%   - +46%
Dreamstime       - 21%   - +32%
StockXpert       - 16%   - +48%
Fotolia          - 9%    - -50%
Crestock         - 8%    - +32% BME
Istockphoto      - 5%    - -57% WME
Bigstockphoto    - 4%    - -26%
123RF            - 3%    - -77% WME


Overall earnings nearly identical to last month. Lots of volatility. Pleasantly surprised at Crestock's performance though.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: araminta on November 01, 2008, 12:54

SS     27%     +60%
StockXpert    22%     +0%
FT     20%     +60%
IS     13%     -50%
DRM    12%     +15%
BIG    3%      +0%
123    3%      +50%


October was somehow disappointing especially compared to 2007 which was HUGE, but it is still my best month in 2008.

SS has performed extremely well (2nd BME after october 2007, thanks to regular uploads?) and I'm especially surprised by FT which is by far my BME. Same for 123RF, but this one is still a small earner for me.

With no surprise, IS sucks this month  ;)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: cascoly on November 01, 2008, 13:52
Overall BME      
      
ss   52%   BME
dream   17%   2nd BME
123   10%   BME
big   8%   
foto   7%   
istock   5%   
cut   0%   
feature   0%   
yay   0%   
most   0%   

Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: PixelsAway on November 01, 2008, 14:35
I just posted my regular monthly earnings report with some graphs in Pixels Away (http://www.pixelsaway.com/C911796005/E20081031213700/index.html) blog.

12% increase in comparison to September, mostly due to reaching $500 total earnings from SS and a good performance of DT.
SS+IS+DT provide almost 80% of my microstock income.

I am getting close to one year in microstock. I will have a few more graphs to present.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: jsolie on November 01, 2008, 14:54
Overall, this has been my BME, but not by a whole lot.  For some reason, SS has gone down a lot, yet I uploaded more images in October than in September and August.  Either a saturation point has been hit, or the images I upload are not appealing to buyers.

Another point of interest is that YayMicro is not at 0% this month.  Hopefully this isn't a fluke and they can continue to attract image buyers.

Over half my sales at StockXpert were subs  >:( and several were from photos.com or jiu.  Still not sure what happened to the "October 2-25" time period.  I'm being hopeful that they'll figure it out soon, but then my stats for two months will be messed up.

]IS          36.27%  BME
DT          14.91%
SS          12.68%  WME
FT          11.07%
StockXpert         11.02%
123          5.93%
BigStock          3.36%
CS           1.68%
YAY          1.65%  BME + 1st sale
SV           0.78%
CanStockPhoto          0.65%
CC+FP+MP+SR  0.00%

Overall: BME
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: madelaide on November 01, 2008, 15:35
My October and 2008 numbers, with 2007 for comparison:

Site 2007 2008 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
IS 26% 25% 22% 37% 26% 26% 23% 18% 26% 18% 21% 21%
DT 16% 20% 30% 16% 18% 22% 14% 26% 23% 17% 16% 17%
StockXpert 20% 21% 19% 12% 22% 21% 24% 13% 21% 22% 30% 25%
FT 13% 13% 8% 11% 16% 13% 13% 15% 10% 16% 13% 16%
BigStock 8% 6% 8% 5% 5% 3% 7% 9% 6% 6% 10% 6%
123 4% 6% 5% 8% 3% 4% 8% 11% 5% 5% 5% 4%
FP 3% 5% 2% 3% 4% 10% 3% 7% 7% 8% 2% 4%
CanStockPhoto 2% <1% 1% 1% 1% <1% <1% 1% 1% 1% <1% <1%
Scan 1% 1% 0% <1% 1% <1% 1% <1% 0% 4% 0% 2%
CS <1% <1% 0% 0% 0% ~0% 1% 0% 1% 2% 1% <1%
Zymm<1% 2% 3% 5% 2% 0% 3% 0% 0% 0% 0% 3%
rest 3% <2% 3% 1% <1% ~0% 1% 0% 0% 1% <1% <1%

Overall slightly better than September, yet only my 8th best in the past 12 months, 10% above Oct 2007, and 30% below February, which was my BME.

StockXpert, IS, DT and FT have been my 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th earners for 3 months in a row, with BigStock, FP and 123RF far behind them.

CanStockPhoto and CS still with very low earnings, basically subs.  Scanstock returned from the dead in October.  One sale in Zymm after months, one in Gimmestock (!).  Fotomedia, Albumo and SV dead for months, and still nothing at MP.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: j2k on November 01, 2008, 22:39
Shutterstock  30.2%
iStockPhoto   25.0%   (sales 45% down compared to September)
Fotolia          17.3% BME
Dreamstime  13.2% BME
StockXpert      7.1%
123rf              4.3%
BigStockPhoto 3.0%

A bit down from last month. All agencies with the exception of IS are doing quite a lot better than in September. Unfortunately IS contributed to over 40% of my microstock income last month, and the new best match reduced my sales drastically.  If that doesn't change IS will perform even worse in November :(

Very nice month at FT 60% over last month, and DT 20% over.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: RH on November 02, 2008, 04:22
For me it´s hard to evaluate, because i´ve had started on the other sites than IS in October. Here are my results:

IS:     44%
SS:    43%
DT:      8%
123RF: 3%
StockXpert:    1%
FT:      1%
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: astrocady on November 02, 2008, 10:01
Sales overall were down 2% from last month, despite about a 10% increase in portfolio size.  Large increase in number images sold on Dreamtime, but most were subs (hardly any before).

SS = 32.6% of total sales, down from last month
IS = 29% of total sales, down from last month
DT = 15.7% of total sales, up from last month
StockXpert = 11% of total sales, up from last month
123 = 9.5% of total sales, up from last month
FT = 2.3% of total sales, down from last month
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: travelstock on November 02, 2008, 10:46
SS: 41%
IS: 34%
DT: 12%
FT: 9% - BME
BS: 2.4%

Overall a solid month on most sites - SS and DT were both down on previous months, but only slightly - in the case of DT it was a BME for downloads. IS it the concern with it being very up and down throughout the month.

Looking forward to a good November.
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: leaf on November 02, 2008, 14:30
don't forget to vote :)

http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=pollsvote
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: madelaide on November 02, 2008, 18:19
Leaf,

It says I can vote again in "ecembe".

I forgot to say that I haven't uploaded to any of the sites in months, so I am satisfied with my results.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: leaf on November 03, 2008, 01:59
Leaf,

It says I can vote again in "ecembe".

I forgot to say that I haven't uploaded to any of the sites in months, so I am satisfied with my results.

Regards,
Adelaide

Thanks, I think it is fixed now.
I also think I managed to get that right column problem fixed for the internet explorer bug!?
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: ichiro17 on November 03, 2008, 08:37
one dollar off bme
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: lisafx on November 03, 2008, 12:53
Istock sales the first week were booming, but dropped a lot in week two and tapered off to 50% of the first weeks sales by week four.

Thank goodness other sites picked up the slack. :)

Here are the royalty breakdowns:

Istock   35%  (dropped below 30% for DL's for the first time ever)
SS        18%  (BME)
FOT      18% 
DT        13%  (BME)
StockXpert        7%
BigStock        5%  (BME)
123RF     3%
Crest       1%  (BME)
Title: Re: October 2008 earnings breakdown
Post by: NancyCWalker on November 03, 2008, 13:42
don't forget to vote :)

[url]http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=pollsvote[/url]


I'm waiting until next month to vote so I don't skew the results. I've only been on most of the sites for about 2 weeks in Oct.