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« on: October 31, 2012, 23:19 »
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For me it was the BME. Up 20%  ;D very nice month


THP Creative

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 23:44 »
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highest number of sales in SS ever (not highest revenue - who got all my OD's this month!!??) ;)

Decent all round on other sites, giving consistent growth in line with my goals. Happy about that.

Although got HEAPS of subs on Veer this month, which lowered rpd massively there. Anyone else experience the same at Veer lately?

Overall a pretty good month :)

« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 00:19 »
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SS.  almost BME. great month.

IS.  good month up 30%.  PP: exeptionally good.

DT.  Great month, good prices as usual.

FT.  coming on strong with some ELs.
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RM sales:  better then ever.

« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 00:52 »
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SS: BME
123RF: BME
DP and FT just as normal.

But still very happy with the overall results.  ;D

« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 01:04 »
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Very good month ..  ;D ;D ;D

SS - BME   8) 8) , Compared with my last BME: 15% increase in revenue , 20% increase in sales. Lots of OD ,SAO,and good EL's
FT - very good month  :)
DT - good month  :)
123RF - average  ???

The pie slices:

SS - 70%
FT - 15%
DT - 10%
123RF - 3%
Others - 2%

SS is at 70% not because i earn little on the other agencies ... because SS is that good.

« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 01:46 »
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Up on last month which was horrible. Down on last years october.
I'd say earnings for October were okay

First time ever it is looking like I will earn less than the previous calender year.
This is my 6th year in microstock

Appears to be due to lower earnings at both shutterstock and istock.

My portfolio is 10% bigger than this time last year.
Looks like my files are starting to fall down the best match faster than I am submitting them.



« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 03:32 »
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3rd best month ever in total earnings

SS - BME (not that great as for number of downloads but above average number of ODs, ELs and Single DL)
DT - very good (more than 100% up compared to September)
FT - BME by a narrow margin (4th in a row)
123rf - worst month of the year
CanStock - less than 50% of September's earnings
BS - not as good as September but sales are slowly picking up these months

Average months on other sites (except BME on Crestock)
iS - still too soon to judge with only few hundreds images online.

« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 03:58 »
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Usual the best month, but this year 10% worse than September...

rubyroo

« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 04:05 »
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Excellent month.  ;D

By the time iStock's figures catch up with end of month, and TS figures come in it will be an overall BME.

SS actually made four times the amount at iStock - which is an exceptional first!  Usually it's around three times more.  My figures show this to be a combination of SS sales increasing and iStock sales dropping.

I only had my usual number of ELs, ODs and SODs at SS - so nothing exceptional there to skew the figures.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 04:07 by rubyroo »

« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 04:50 »
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Excellent month (BME +47% ea +43% dl) ... but i'm a small fish.

10 months of Microstock

Avg port 316 img (last month +11,8%)

SS 100% -> BME (No EL but +56% dl +12% ea) (32,69% of the pie)
FT 67% -> BME (1 EL)
DT 42% -> BME (2 EL)
IS 40% (No BME but great Sept PP wit 1 EL)
DP 22% -> BME (1 EL)
123 20% -> BME
PD 9% -> BME
BS 5% -> BME

8 agencies, 7 BME.

« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 05:06 »
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Overall an average month for this year.
BME for dls (not revenue) at SS, BME at 123rf (though this does not mean much, it is on a very low scale). Average month at DT and the second worst month of the year at FT (last Oktober my income at FT was almost 3times what it is now). Still not very enthusiastic about uploading new images... .

Poncke

« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 05:07 »
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I really need to rethink my subjects, everybody gets slapped in the head with ELS, SODS, ODDS, whatever, and I get none of them across the board.

« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 05:35 »
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BME for Oct 2012, but also pretty standard growth, which I certainly won't complain about.

I think when we claim X% growth is would also be usefull to know how many images one added.  if you have 200% port growth and 100% income growth then your income hasn't really grown a whole lot... in fact it would be more appropriate to say it has been reduced.

So my details are 22% income growth over 2011 and 23% port growth over 2011.  So the income growth was a little smaller than the port growth.  I have high hopes for Nov to be another BME.. but who knows.  In the past it's gone both ways.

rubyroo

« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2012, 05:45 »
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Good point Leaf, and I figured this  out the other day... so very happy to report:

Between 2011 and Oct 2012, my port grew by one fifth and my income tripled.  :D


fritz

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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2012, 05:52 »
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BME!

« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 05:56 »
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Many of us are reporting BME's... so the microstock industry is in a continuous growth.  ;D

Microbius

« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 06:28 »
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BME
ETA actually just leave it at that, no point encouraging the competition too much ;)


rubyroo

« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 06:41 »
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LOL @ Microbius.

I've ETA'd a few times for that very reason myself!

« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 08:12 »
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My only complaint is that Istock sales continue to nose dive, PP was flat this month, but overall is rising, helping to offset IS losses. FT suckie as usual.  BigStock crummy month.

123, SS, DT, DP, PD, CanStockPhoto and Alamy all up over last month.  Stockfresh even managed to pull in $12 bucks this month ::)

« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 08:37 »
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Overall BME (only by 1,5%), and BME for Shutterstock (17% up), Bigstock, 123rf and DP.
I was really happy with this, until Leaf started talking about port growth.
My port grew with 18% since Oct. 2011, and earnings by 10%, so thanks Leaf, you got me depressed again  ;)
Istock is down again, but partner sales covered the loss, even with some growth.  DST and FT are down 7% compared to Oct. 2011, but I'm not complaining, knowing that -7% is really good compared to others.
Canstock and GLO are down more than 25%.

Keeping my fingers crossed for November.  I expected a bad start today, as it's a holiday in many countries, but at least it's doing better than a weekend.

« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2012, 08:39 »
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One off topic question :  why are Leaf and I the only ones in this topic showing port size (and links to portfolio) ?

« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2012, 08:43 »
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Yes but Tyler is right here. Growth is still only in comparison to what amount one has uploaded, etc. Example: during the last six months I have had an average of about 12, RM sales per month and for quite big sums, some involving right and everything. For being RM, thats extremely good.
However when I then look at the amount of RM shots uploaded/accepted over the past 6 months, which is quite a bit, considering I have been concentrating on RM very hard.
Well, all of a sudden sure its a good growth no doubt but its more like the growth you would expect rather then massive.

« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2012, 08:57 »
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Excellent month.

My 2nd BME (behind March 2012)

For me, Oct 2012 was:

+ 8% compared to Sept 2012
+ 1% compared to Oct 2011 (when SS was delivering a massive wave of ELs and before FT started punishing Emeralds)

« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 09:19 by stockmarketer »

« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 09:00 »
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I expected a bad start today, as it's a holiday in many countries, but at least it's doing better than a weekend.

Wow, I'm glad you pointed this out.  I woke up to sales being about half of what I would expect for a Thursday.  Glad to hear a holiday could be the cause and not something more alarming.

« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 09:22 »
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Maybe will be fine if we beside BME, etc...  write also how big portfolio we have.
Because I am new here, 4-6 months, I have small portfolios.
300-800 photos, depends on which stock agency ( 800 DP, CS; 500 DT, FT... and only 280 on SS and  IS, because of IS limit 18 photos/week.
I have sold 103 photos on SS in october, BME.
On other stocks 10-20.
Is this ok for start?

ShadySue

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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 10:02 »
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(IS Exclusive. I reworked my Sept stats, with the CC sales included, which made them nothing like as bad as I reported last month. Similarly, October's stats include the CC sales.)

Compared to Sept 12: DLs +35%; $$ +15% (discrepancy due to two good ELs in Sept and 0 in October). ULs in Oct 12: 38 (only 1 DL from these, but that's been usual for ages now).

Compared to Oct 11: DLs -5%, $$ +17% (2ELs last Oct). UL in past year: 539.

Port size: 3326 as of this moment. (Can't remember if that counts DB files?)

Added: plus three RM from Alamy.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 13:55 by ShadySue »

« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2012, 10:50 »
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It was a good month - not a BME overall, but SS was a BME by 20% (last November was the previous BME). If IS hadn't been in such bad shape - down 6% over September 2012...

It's important to note that I have been using StatsPlus to get my iStock sales, so I am picking up the cash sales missing from the IS stats - and it's still down.

Total for the month was up 17% over Sept 2012 and 59% over October 2011 (a bit artificial as I had left exclusivity in June 2011 and was still on the climb back on other sites last year). Nevertheless, it's good to see healthy sales. I haven't grown my port much in the last few months, but I don't have numbers for that.

Given the month delay in delivering PP sales, I've plugged in September's PP sales and DLs in for October as a placeholder. As my PP sales for September were up 25% over August, it may get a little better once October's actual PP sales come in (although that may be January 2013 given how they keep pushing those dates out!)

SS was up 26% from September (which was up 22% from August) - fewer ELs but one big single download that made up for that :)

DT did OK - flat, essentially with October 2011 (although my portfolio is much bigger there now as I have more of it uploaded than I did last October). It says to me that they've traded fewer downloads for higher prices per download. As a contributor I'm not sure that I'm helped by that as the money per month ends up the same.

123rf did OK - up 12% from September. Given that I haven't uploaded there for many months (since they announced their new royalty scheme) that's pretty decent. No thanks to them (why don't they include the credit totals in the earnings chart?) I have figured my credit total for the year so far and am will probably get 45% next year if I stay with them - I don't think there's a prayer that I'll make enough there this month and next to stay at 50%. Given their very heavy discounting of credit prices, 50% of already cheap images isn't all that good. I'm still hoping they'll change their minds and halt this greedy cash grab...

BigStock did very nicely - up 52% from Sept (which was up from August). PhotoDune, Veer and CanStock did OK  but are very inconsistent - PD was down a bit, CanStock up a bit and Veer down a bit. Alamy contributed two sales - sounds small, but my take will be $108 whenever I actually get paid, so that's not too bad :)
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 12:32 by jsnover »


« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2012, 11:19 »
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BME (so far) for me. SS had the most DL ever but with enough less EL and OD to keep it from being a BME there. Alamy did quite well - another BME unless things are refunded.  In fact just SS and Alamy made for a decent month - better than last months total.

I have no idea how IS did, but relatively unimportant at this point. Veer also has some reporting issues for me. 

BS was a non EL BME but still a small player. PD was another small fry BME. DT was back up to about average for the last 12 months - better than most of the last 4 or so.

Once I sort out Veer and in a few years if/when the IS and PP income are all reported it should be an even better month.

I think I added around 1% new images to my portfolio of up to 3,000 images. One thing about the port growth vs income growth is at some point you should hit some sort of steady state and if your work to produce new images isn't too onerous you are making a pretty good income at this (although it might be some time before past work is fully recouped).

Poncke

« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 11:56 »
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One off topic question :  why are Leaf and I the only ones in this topic showing port size (and links to portfolio) ?
Probably because people want to remain anonymous here because agencies are checking this forum and every now and then trolls ridicule someone's work in flame wars

« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 12:18 »
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One off topic question :  why are Leaf and I the only ones in this topic showing port size (and links to portfolio) ?
Probably because people want to remain anonymous here because agencies are checking this forum and every now and then trolls ridicule someone's work in flame wars
I understand that for the portfolio links, but why hide the port size dials under your avatar?

Poncke

« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2012, 12:37 »
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One off topic question :  why are Leaf and I the only ones in this topic showing port size (and links to portfolio) ?
Probably because people want to remain anonymous here because agencies are checking this forum and every now and then trolls ridicule someone's work in flame wars
I understand that for the portfolio links, but why hide the port size dials under your avatar?
  I dont even know how to turn that on. I didnt even know you could turn that on. But probably for the same reason. If you dont have a large port and you post your opinion you get slain for not knowing what you are talking about.

« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2012, 12:56 »
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...I understand that for the portfolio links, but why hide the port size dials under your avatar?
  I dont even know how to turn that on. I didnt even know you could turn that on. But probably for the same reason. If you dont have a large port and you post your opinion you get slain for not knowing what you are talking about.
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Go to the profile menu and select Forum Profile. Put your DT and SS user info into the fields provided then check the "Hide Portfolio Links" if you don't want them displayed.

When you haven't been doing this for very long and don't have very many images online, you have to expect that people will point this out if your experience and view differs from someone who has been doing it for longer - or from statisticians, who know a lot about how very small sample sizes can produce unreliable results. It might feel uncomfortable, but it also feels uncomfortable to be lectured to by newcomers if you've been around the block a few times.

The problem with leaving nothing is that you'll likely be treated as if you have a very small portfolio anyway, so I'm not sure it solves your problem :)

« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2012, 13:41 »
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Best month ever for me ! :-)

BME on SS, FT, 123 RF.

My port : around 750 illustrations. Being on IS, SS, DT,BigStock,GL,Veer,CanStockPhoto,123RF,DP,FT, Stockfresh

First time ever I almost reach 2000$ in a month without iStock pp !
So most probably 1st time I pass the 2000$/month
Hope it will keep on

lisafx

« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2012, 13:50 »
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I can't seem to get Stats Plus to work right, so I have to work with what Istock is showing me, which means the 31st is still missing. 

Given the info I have, $ are up 6% from last month, but down 16% from last October.  Down 25% from high water mark of October 2009. 

Total portfolio just over 7k, with 500 or so added in the past year. 

Poncke

« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2012, 13:52 »
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...I understand that for the portfolio links, but why hide the port size dials under your avatar?
  I dont even know how to turn that on. I didnt even know you could turn that on. But probably for the same reason. If you dont have a large port and you post your opinion you get slain for not knowing what you are talking about.

Go to the profile menu and select Forum Profile. Put your DT and SS user info into the fields provided then check the "Hide Portfolio Links" if you don't want them displayed.

When you haven't been doing this for very long and don't have very many images online, you have to expect that people will point this out if your experience and view differs from someone who has been doing it for longer - or from statisticians, who know a lot about how very small sample sizes can produce unreliable results. It might feel uncomfortable, but it also feels uncomfortable to be lectured to by newcomers if you've been around the block a few times.

The problem with leaving nothing is that you'll likely be treated as if you have a very small portfolio anyway, so I'm not sure it solves your problem :)
I see loads of rubbish being posted as well by so called 'experts' in the industry... Its not about how big your port is, but about if what you say holds water.

Thanks anyway, I was just pointing out why people dont share their stuff. Its not really a problem I have.

« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2012, 14:02 »
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7th BME. Up slightly from September, but down from August (which is weird to say). With only two months left, this should end up being a BYE (best year ever).

SNP

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« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2012, 14:10 »
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Sales have been down since August. September was awful. October was slightly better than September, but still down by a lot.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 14:13 by SNP »


« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2012, 14:36 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?

lisafx

« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2012, 14:57 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing. 

« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2012, 15:03 »
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Same here.

« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2012, 15:12 »
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Sales have come back to a normal level. Now that the stats are correct I can see that I even have 1% more Royalties than October 2011. Compared to the horrible September 2012 Royalties are up 93%!!!

I have never had such a drastic upswing ever.

But I am not complaining ;)

« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2012, 15:15 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing.

I saw that too, maybe something to do with Sandy?

« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2012, 15:16 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?

How disappointing __ I just thought my November had got off to an unbelievable start.

« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2012, 15:53 »
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One off topic question :  why are Leaf and I the only ones in this topic showing port size (and links to portfolio) ?

If this make any sense for you ... here are my numbers; Ports size:  between 1000 images on 123RF and 2270 on SS. sales in the thousands /month.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 15:58 by nicku »

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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2012, 16:18 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing.

I saw that too, maybe something to do with Sandy?

This may have something to do with Sandy as well: today I submitted a batch of 40 pictures and got stuck during process. Now I see that I have 160 pictures pending and I'll have to delete one by one before they think I am deliberately submitting multiple times...

Back on topic: October not a BME, but a good month at Shutterstock, and also a decent month at other sites, with some improvement over a bad september

« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2012, 17:38 »
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Another bad month.

Just above 2,000$ made.

+ 17% compared to Sept 2012
+ 18% compared to Oct 2011

Port grew by about 50% to ~5,000 images.

« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2012, 17:49 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?

On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing.


I saw that too, maybe something to do with Sandy?

yep, check out this post
http://www.microstockgroup.com/17278/17278/msg277828/#msg277828


Poncke

« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2012, 17:53 »
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On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?

On a side note, did your SS earnings not clear out at the end of the month? Don't they usually start at zero to begin a new month?


I noticed the same thing.


I saw that too, maybe something to do with Sandy?

yep, check out this post
http://www.microstockgroup.com/17278/17278/msg277828/#msg277828


The numbers have reset now, so the systems have been synced.

« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2012, 22:24 »
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BME ever for me. Shutterstock went over the top too with over 20% increase in income and downloads (600 DL more than last BME)

« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2012, 02:08 »
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   BME for me, but I'm a beginner with port growing so it's normal I think. BME at SS for no of dlds, but the overall BME is due to a sale at IS of 30$ (don't know what has sold as it was credit card I think) and a first sale on Alamy.
   Now I'm worried because for something like 10 days, the only one that sells consistent is SS. I,ve reached BME by 20 oct, and after it was disaster. 2 sales on FT, only 1 at IS, and the other disaster. November started bad as well-2 sales at SS and that's all for yesterday. Anyone sees a big drop in sales in the past 10 days of so? I have that problem to all the sites, that's weird. SS sells but no OD SOD or EL in the past 2 weeks.
   I'm a poor seller with no commercial images, but the drop is so bad that I cannot explain.

« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2012, 03:05 »
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BME for me. Video sales were way up, and helped by a great month on Alamy.

SA

« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2012, 03:41 »
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2013, 06:31 by SA »

ShadySue

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« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2012, 05:15 »
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  the overall BME is due to a sale at IS of 30$ (don't know what has sold as it was credit card I think)

Or it might be an EL (Extended licence). Check by going to your financials tab, then click View Extended Licence earnings.

Paulo M. F. Pires

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« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2012, 05:58 »
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BME on SS, without any single EL, but with a big increase of OD's downloads.

SS, followed by Alamy and 123RF.

The big surprise: Photospin. Officially I start on 10th Oct. Even with that strange 0,09c sales, I got more than IS and DT together. Now we are on 2th Nov., and already doubled sales. Funny fact is that i'm selling my worst files there...

IS, DT, FT.... almost death. Is was going well with PP sales, but nowadays is WME each month.


« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2012, 07:07 »
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BME also for me!
+40% compared to September.

More than 50% of the income is from Shutterstock (BME).
Followed by Fotolia (BME), 123rf (BME), Photodune, Depositphoto (BME), Pond5, Veer (BME), Dreamstime, CanStockPhoto, GL Stock Images (BME), Stockfresh and Alamy.

« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2012, 12:13 »
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Up 29% to last month, and up 26% to October 2011. Best four: Shutterstock, Zazzle , DepositPhotos, Dreamstime

Complete statistic at http://microstockinfos.blogspot.com/2012/11/stock-photography-sales-statistic.html






(This statistic include referral earning at the different agencies)

« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2012, 15:09 »
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BME on SS, without any single EL, but with a big increase of OD's downloads.

SS, followed by Alamy and 123RF.

The big surprise: Photospin. Officially I start on 10th Oct. Even with that strange 0,09c sales, I got more than IS and DT together. Now we are on 2th Nov., and already doubled sales. Funny fact is that i'm selling my worst files there...

IS, DT, FT.... almost death. Is was going well with PP sales, but nowadays is WME each month.




Hi, Paulo,

glad that You selling on Photospin with success.
How many did You uploaded ?
And sold ?
Photos ?
Thx in advance


« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2012, 16:36 »
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   Go to the profile menu and select Forum Profile. Put your DT and SS user info into the fields provided then check the "Hide Portfolio Links" if you don't want them displayed.



for some reason i cant get my SS port to show up -  i enter my name but it gets reset to '0' when i save it


2nd BME overall   prev BME included a $300 EL from DT


BME for SS, beating previous by 30%
good month for DT Big 123

« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2012, 16:37 »
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Great month on IS... North of $10 per download all last week

Reef

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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2012, 06:03 »
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Great month on IS... North of $10 per download all last week

nice :)

Steady as she goes for me (IS Exclusive)


« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2012, 06:24 »
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IS: A mediocre month, still -40% from the BME
SS: A new BME!
DT: Much weaker than last month that was a BME, but still okay compared to this year's average.
FT: Weak as usual
VMP: BME! (Veer is now officially ahead of FT for me)

Paulo M. F. Pires

  • "No Gods No Masters"
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2012, 16:51 »
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Hi, Paulo,

glad that You selling on Photospin with success.
How many did You uploaded ?
And sold ?
Photos ?
Thx in advance

606 Files, 30 sold on October.  5 so far, where 2 were sold for 27$.

The bad: In October 2 files hit the "infamous" 0.03$ value.

Let's see how it goes on next months ( My portfolio is small and  is not as "commercial" as it should be )










« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2012, 17:35 »
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   Go to the profile menu and select Forum Profile. Put your DT and SS user info into the fields provided then check the "Hide Portfolio Links" if you don't want them displayed.



for some reason i cant get my SS port to show up -  i enter my name but it gets reset to '0' when i save it

you need to enter your Shutterstock ID#, not your user name.

THP Creative

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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2012, 20:40 »
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Hi, Paulo,

glad that You selling on Photospin with success.
How many did You uploaded ?
And sold ?
Photos ?
Thx in advance

606 Files, 30 sold on October.  5 so far, where 2 were sold for 27$.

The bad: In October 2 files hit the "infamous" 0.03$ value.

Let's see how it goes on next months ( My portfolio is small and  is not as "commercial" as it should be )

Wow, interesting stuff thanks for sharing. I was looking at their payment page, and it states this:

"Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month."

Meaning what exactly - you will never know what you are supposed to be paid? Am i reading that right?

And 0.03cents in value for a sale.......really?.....iStock will be jealous. ;)

« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2012, 02:06 »
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Hi, Paulo,

glad that You selling on Photospin with success.
How many did You uploaded ?
And sold ?
Photos ?
Thx in advance

606 Files, 30 sold on October.  5 so far, where 2 were sold for 27$.

The bad: In October 2 files hit the "infamous" 0.03$ value.

Let's see how it goes on next months ( My portfolio is small and  is not as "commercial" as it should be )

Wow, interesting stuff thanks for sharing. I was looking at their payment page, and it states this:

"Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month."

Meaning what exactly - you will never know what you are supposed to be paid? Am i reading that right?

And 0.03cents in value for a sale.......really?.....iStock will be jealous. ;)

No problem with 0,03 $ if You had sold 2 for 27$. Bravo for this, Paulo.
Anyway, 0.08 $, 0.03 $.. this is total degradation :(
But participation in stock business is our choice, agree?

Paulo M. F. Pires

  • "No Gods No Masters"
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2012, 08:40 »
0
No problem with 0,03 $ if You had sold 2 for 27$. Bravo for this, Paulo.
Anyway, 0.08 $, 0.03 $.. this is total degradation :(
But participation in stock business is our choice, agree?

Yeah, 0,03$ is nearly a crime. But we are talking about "premier" colection ( 300k pictures ), and only if client spend all subscription. If they not spend it at all, You get higher royalties for those images, something does not happen in other agencies ( They still paying 0,20$,0,25... ).

So, the best way to evaluate PS, is on the end of each year :D

Another "funny" fact is that, some files sold on PS, never got any sale ( or even were got accepted ) in any of agency's that i'm working with. Here among us, "where nobody can listen": I should be paying to customer for every download of those "images" LOL

Most people criticize these "business template", because it makes other agencies lower their prices ( IS and FT by the way ), but I'm the few one that believe that they would lower the prices any way. Moreover, regularly, I got same image sold in more than agency, on same day, with different prices: once was from 0.25$ to 131$. This means that we have enough clients for any price, and working with "very low price"  agency, doesn't means that "all clients" runway to that agency on first chance.

But I agree with You.. it's everyone own choice. Micro Stock is my third source of income ( second in photography business ), and i'm not working with the most salable images.

More easily I stop downloading to Is, than to PS. I give more importance to the final $ income, rather than the RPD.

Wow, interesting stuff thanks for sharing. I was looking at their payment page, and it states this:

"Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month."

Meaning what exactly - you will never know what you are supposed to be paid? Am i reading that right?

And 0.03cents in value for a sale.......really?.....iStock will be jealous. ;)

You right. As I stated above, we only will know the final results on the end of each year, and probably we will get much of those 0,03$ downloads.

But non-sub downloads are interesting.



 


« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2012, 09:04 »
+2
- from September 2012 (up 30%)
- from October 2011 (up 38.7%)
- 42 months of stock
- 3 new uploads in October
- SS with 3952 pictures (370 editorial)
- traditional top 5 - 67.5% (SS, IS, FT, 123RF, DT) (Sep 66.8%)

Oct % - Sep % - last month $ %

TOP 8 - 83.4% (80.3%)

SS 42.4% (38.4%) (up 42.4%)  (Oct - 2 EL + 7 SOD = 139.13$) (Sep - 0 EL + 1 SOD = 2.55$) (3rd BME)
IS 8.8% (12.7%) (down 11.5%) (8 months with no new uploads)
Z 8.6% (5.7%) (up 86.3%) (BME)
123RF 8% (5.5%) (up 86.5%) (back on the 100$'s after many months below) (very close to BME)
FT 5% (7.1%) (down 0.8%)
ISIGN 4.2% (4.8%) (up 14.1%)
DT 3.3% (3.1%) (up 38.6%) (May 69$ (BME), Jun 35$, Jul 35$, Aug 39$, Sep 34$, Oct 47$)
PM 3.1% (0.5%) (up 736%) (Sep 6$, Oct 44$) (BME)

MIDDLE - 12.6% (15%)

DP 3% (2.9%)
XY 2.3% (1.9%)
XX 2.1% (2.2%)
XZ 1.7% (2.5%)
PD 1.4% (2%)
BigStock 1.1% (1.2%)
V 1% (1.7%)

LOW - 4% (4.7%)
(12 agencies all below 1% each)

edited because of IS incorrect earnings (StatsPlus help) and also Zazzle bonus added (7% after 100$ earnings)
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 22:43 by luissantos84 »


« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2012, 10:33 »
0
Luis my head is spinning...lol. Good summary :).

WarrenPrice

« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2012, 10:56 »
0
- Jan 1073$, Feb 1090$, Mar 1342$, Apr 1396$, May 1452$, Jun 1206$, Jul 1273$, Aug 1441$, Sep 1083$, Oct 1396$
- from September 2012 (up 29%)
- from October 2011 (up 37.4%)
- 42 months of stock
- 3 new uploads in October
- SS with 3952 pictures (370 editorial)
- traditional top 5 - 67.5% (SS, IS, FT, 123RF, DT) (Sep 66.8%)

Oct % - Sep % - last month $ %

TOP 8 - 83.2% (80.3%)

SS 42.8% (38.4%) (up 42.4%)  (Oct - 2 EL + 7 SOD = 139.13$) (Sep - 0 EL + 1 SOD = 2.55$) (3rd BME)
IS 8.3% (12.7%) (down 11.5%) (8 months with no new uploads)
Z 8.2% (5.7%) (up 86.3%) (BME)
123RF 8% (5.5%) (up 86.5%) (back on the 100$'s after many months below) (very close to BME)
FT 5.1% (7.1%) (down 0.8%)
ISIGN 4.4% (4.8%) (up 14.1%)
DT 3.3% (3.1%) (up 38.6%) (May 69$ (BME), Jun 35$, Jul 35$, Aug 39$, Sep 34$, Oct 47$)
PM 3.1% (0.5%) (up 736%) (Sep 6$, Oct 44$) (BME)

MIDDLE - 12.8% (15%)

DP 3% (2.9%)
XY 2.4% (1.9%)
XX 2.1% (2.2%)
XZ 1.7% (2.5%)
PD 1.5% (2%)
BigStock 1.2% (1.2%)
V 1% (1.7%)

LOW - 4% (4.7%)
(12 agencies all below 1% each)

You've been busy.  Good to see that hard work is paying off.

« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2012, 13:10 »
0
thanks for both comments! ;D

actually I haven't been working that much (at least in the latest 12 months), time to work on the k's of pictures from St. Lucia, Spain, UK, Ireland and Portugal, I am settling down for a while so it will be a month of hard work, will see how it goes!

« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2012, 14:06 »
0
   Go to the profile menu and select Forum Profile. Put your DT and SS user info into the fields provided then check the "Hide Portfolio Links" if you don't want them displayed.



for some reason i cant get my SS port to show up -  i enter my name but it gets reset to '0' when i save it

you need to enter your Shutterstock ID#, not your user name.

thanks! i had forgotten there was a difference

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2012, 19:53 »
+1
Looks like I am following a similar trend to others - easily my BME with sales just over $2000, compared to $1676 last month and a previous best in June of $1766. Shutterstock easily beat all previous records with $826 compared to $686, and iStock was not bad with $326. The unlikely star for me this month was 123RF with sales of $226 (compared to a previous best of around $120) and referral earnings jumping up to $66. So whoever signed up to the site using one of my links from my website - congratulations on a fantastic month for yourself and thanks for helping me out!

I'll work on the earnings per image and update my spreadsheets with that, but in the meantime, here are the headline graphs and totals of files per site. As usual more details on my blog.

Steve



« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2012, 19:58 »
0
impressive Steve, very nice indeed! ;)

are you including referral earnings in your statistics? if I have 1$ per month from that is a lot, stopped blogging 1 year ago and I was never very active too

edited for typo
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 21:00 by luissantos84 »

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2012, 20:05 »
0
Quote
impressive Steve, very nice indeed!

are you were including referral earnings in your statistics? if I have 1$ per month from that is a lot, stopped blogging 1 year ago and I was never very active too

Thanks! I feel good about last month, and this month is off to a great start with one of those famed $70 downloads on Shutterstock!

I do count referral income in my totals, and I've started adding in Zazzle as well (although I don't try hard there). Most of the sites are negligible in terms of referral income, but 123RF really surprised me. The contributor must be really selling well to result in me getting $60. It built up over the past 3 months as well so I don't think it is the combined efforts of a lot of people.

Steve

« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2012, 23:46 »
0
BME on 6 of 8 sites I submit! SS has always been a BME month after month in both dls and $$s. But I have just 600 files on SS.. Lets see how long this continues..

« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2012, 11:09 »
0
You will know the final amount at the end of each month.

No problem with 0,03 $ if You had sold 2 for 27$. Bravo for this, Paulo.
Anyway, 0.08 $, 0.03 $.. this is total degradation :(
But participation in stock business is our choice, agree?

Yeah, 0,03$ is nearly a crime. But we are talking about "premier" colection ( 300k pictures ), and only if client spend all subscription. If they not spend it at all, You get higher royalties for those images, something does not happen in other agencies ( They still paying 0,20$,0,25... ).

So, the best way to evaluate PS, is on the end of each year :D

Another "funny" fact is that, some files sold on PS, never got any sale ( or even were got accepted ) in any of agency's that i'm working with. Here among us, "where nobody can listen": I should be paying to customer for every download of those "images" LOL

Most people criticize these "business template", because it makes other agencies lower their prices ( IS and FT by the way ), but I'm the few one that believe that they would lower the prices any way. Moreover, regularly, I got same image sold in more than agency, on same day, with different prices: once was from 0.25$ to 131$. This means that we have enough clients for any price, and working with "very low price"  agency, doesn't means that "all clients" runway to that agency on first chance.

But I agree with You.. it's everyone own choice. Micro Stock is my third source of income ( second in photography business ), and i'm not working with the most salable images.

More easily I stop downloading to Is, than to PS. I give more importance to the final $ income, rather than the RPD.

Wow, interesting stuff thanks for sharing. I was looking at their payment page, and it states this:

"Each revenue split is based upon the number of total downloads of your images per customer per month."

Meaning what exactly - you will never know what you are supposed to be paid? Am i reading that right?

And 0.03cents in value for a sale.......really?.....iStock will be jealous. ;)

You right. As I stated above, we only will know the final results on the end of each year, and probably we will get much of those 0,03$ downloads.

But non-sub downloads are interesting.

« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2012, 11:22 »
0
BME :) a great month pushed up with payouts from Alamy as well as Veer (first time) in addition to my other sites.  Although SS lagged below its usual performance .. wondering why?  Its been my best performer for many months so hoping it comes back up.


 

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